VW's Elise Fighter is Confusing

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CAR and Autoweek have tapped their sources within Volkswagen to get the scoop on a rumored mid-engine Elise-fighter that may debut at next month's LA Auto Show. But when working with unnamed insiders, information tends to get jumbled in the process and differing reports emerge that suggest it's all more speculation than hard facts.

Both reports confirm what we've heard before: Volkswagen will limit the cylinder count to four, but that's where the similarities end. Autoweek's sources say that engine choices will be limited to either a 170-hp 1.4-liter Twincharger TSI gasoline engine or a new 125-hp 1.6-liter TDI sending power to the rear wheels through a seven-speed dual-clutch gearbox. CAR pegs displacement of the gasoline engines at between 1.2- and 1.4-liters, with output ranging from 105 to 160 hp. A 1.2-liter TDI producing 75 hp is also being bandied around.

According to Autoweek, the mid-engine coupe will come to market in 2011, while CAR contends production won't begin until 2013. Additionally, CAR reports that VW won't use an aluminum architecture due to cost constraints, meaning that the Modular Sports Car (MSC) will come in at around 2,660 pounds (300kg heavier than the Elise). On the other hand, Autoweek is saying that the concept will tip the scales below 2,200 pounds by tapping Audi for its expertise with aluminum and opening the door to a four-ringed variant with a choice of a 211-hp 2.0-liter TFSI or a 204-hp twin-turbo'd 2.0-liter TDI. Not to mention the possibility of a Porsche 914 successor.

A strut-based suspension will be employed instead of a Golf-derived multi-link arrangement, while parts cribbed from the rest of the VW line – ranging from steering components and brakes to electronics and transmissions – will be used to keep manufacturing costs in check. Autoweek is also reporting that both a coupe and roadster will be offered, which strikes us as totally unnecessary as VW would be better served offering a removable hard-top similar to that on the MSC's target, the Lotus Elise.

I love the idea, but I need to see more. But, this Porsche 914-successor thing has been rumored for a long, long time.
 
Probably prudent to not count the chickens before they hatch, particularly considering we've seen nothing of any sort of a mid-engined, light platform from VW. Unless there's a disguised Golf/Scirocco out there...
 
They had that concept vehicle a few years back that was similar to this, but certainly, this is something that has been discussed on/off for what feels like a decade. If they're actually going to do it, more power to them... But I'd hate to have them pull a GX3 on us again.
 
I read about this as well. The AutoBild said that this is a joint project between VW and Porsche. VW will go for the smaller engines including diesels, while Porsche will introduce the car as the new small model below the growing Boxster. Obviously, they will upgrade a lot of parts as well as putting in the bigger engines.
 
I read about this as well. The AutoBild said that this is a joint project between VW and Porsche. VW will go for the smaller engines including diesels, while Porsche will introduce the car as the new small model below the growing Boxster. Obviously, they will upgrade a lot of parts as well as putting in the bigger engines.
914, then?
 
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Those aren't going to give VW too much room to play before Porsche steps in to keep things separated a little. They've already killed the R4.

Other than that, I think it would be a really cool car to see. If they can keep the weight low enough, I would be really happy to see a VW running around with the Elise.
 
...They've already killed the R4....

Unless this is the start of the R4 plan. We'll probably see the return of a 2.0T-powered 914, and it seems like a TSI-driven VW variant could happen to. Either way, its an exciting time for VW high performance fans.
 
The article I read said that it's going to get the 1.4 TSI as the biggest engine with a maximum of 140 hp, while Porsche will likely go for the 2.0 TFSI with 200 hp and more.
 
The cars I posted will keep the power of the car down. Not saying that 140 hp is bad in a lightweight car, but I wouldn't be expecting anything with the 2.0T unless it's a limited-production special.

That is, unless VW can get Porsche to allow it on the grounds that it is in a different class being more like the Elise than the TT/Cayman.
 
I think we're talking at cross-purposes. There will be a car based on the above chassis from VW as well as from Porsche. It will not compete with the current Porsche range because smaller models such as the Cayman and the Boxster will move upwards sin size and price in the next generation. Therefore, Porsche will introduce a new small model, based on the above car. And as they want to maintain a proper distance to the incarnation from VW, they'll put in the 2.0T to keep the weight down but have at least 200 hp, likely more.
 
Headlights look like older 2000 Golf, kinda old school 914 Porsche like to see more where can I see more.:dopey:
 
In other words, the Scirocco shall determine the look for every VW hereafter. Although, perhaps the Tiguan/Routan are the exception to the rule?
 

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