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I watched a program on PBS last year that really set me thinking. It was about men who leave their lives and just head into the unknown. No reason. Happily married...kids...good jobs...doesn't seem to matter. They showed a number of cases, but the one I enjoyed the best was about an Englishman who picked up and left as he was going to work. He merely kept on driving. His wife had called the police and filed numerous missing persons reports and still no word. Six months pass and she gets a phone call from him. He had drifted around England for awhile and then entered France. He was currently picking grapes on a wine plantation. Even he could not explain. As good as his life was, he just felt compelled to change. This phenomenon afflicts hundreds of people a year, though it was mainly males. Are they raised wrong? Do their morales come into question? When does fantasy become feasible? Take a look at your own life and try and fathom the scope of what they did.

Could you?
 
Originally posted by Mr. Snowtire

Could you?

Yeah.
I'm in at a school I don't want to be at, taking general studies classes because I don't have any idea what I want to major in or do when I get out of school. I'm searching for a job and I really have no attachments to anything except my immediate family. It's crossed my mind on several occasions, but I think that I was way too spoiled growing up, having everything pretty much handed to me and I don't think I would last very long. I'd probably end up living on the streets or getting arrested trying to rob a convenience store or something. :D


-Mark
 
You thinking of taking off and leaving civilization behind Mr. Snowtire?

It is unimaginable to me to actually do something like that.
I read "Into the Wild." It was a story of a man that left his life on the East Coast of the US and hitch hiked across the Canadian Trans-Continental Highway to Alaska.
He then just walked about Alaska living off the land and exploring nature.

Through reading that book I got the impression that it was someone that was sick and tired of civilizations daily life as it is today. Too much work and stress. He just needed to get away from it all.

Cost him his life though.
 
To Boom,

No..love my family too much. I watched that program with my wife and she was not too impressed with my reaction to it. It could be said that I glowed. No...as hard as things get at times, the energy I got from it was just fuel for dreams. My back couldn't handle picking fruit for the rest of my life anyhow.;)
 
I've done it before! In fact, my biggest goal in all my human life is to remain single and in a few years, simply buy a huge conversion van (you know, with the curtains in the windows) and just drive around the United States for the rest of my life. I'm a dreamer, and I'm of the philosophy that there's so much in this world, there's no sense leaving it unexplored. If I didn't have such family ties, I probably would've already purchased my van...
 
Originally posted by Mr. Snowtire
about an Englishman who picked up and left as he was going to work. He merely kept on driving. His wife had called the police and filed numerous missing persons reports and still no word.
Married life will do that to you.

Word of advice, don't get married. She'll boat anchor your life right into misery. ;)

AO
 
Originally posted by Mr. Snowtire
Could you?
Definitely.

I should be studying right now; I don't particularly want to be here; but if I pass this exam I can focus on PC repair/maintenance and upgrades.

Suppose I should get bangin'... :irked:
 
It's undoubtedly a very powerful influence in our lives - the feeling that there's something out there that we're missing. Of course, it's something that a lot of people dismiss with the hackneyed phrase "The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence".

It could be a deep-seated instinct to roam as was genetically engineered during Man's early hunter/gatherer days. However, it's an increasingly popular trend, as more and more people leave the life that is perceived as "normal" (i.e. regular job, spouse, children, mortgage), and try something different, something a little more conservative, a little less consumption-oriented. And indeed a philosopher once said "to make a man truly happy, do not add to the sum of his possessions, but instead subtract from the sum of his desires".

I couldn't do it. But I think that people who do do it, and do it successfully, and with their families, are admirable.

By the way, anyone considering dropping out of "normal" (see above) society should read On the Road by Jack Kerouac.
 
Originally posted by GilesGuthrie
It's undoubtedly a very powerful influence in our lives - the feeling that there's something out there that we're missing. Of course, it's something that a lot of people dismiss with the hackneyed phrase "The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence".

It could be a deep-seated instinct to roam as was genetically engineered during Man's early hunter/gatherer days. However, it's an increasingly popular trend, as more and more people leave the life that is perceived as "normal" (i.e. regular job, spouse, children, mortgage), and try something different, something a little more conservative, a little less consumption-oriented. And indeed a philosopher once said "to make a man truly happy, do not add to the sum of his possessions, but instead subtract from the sum of his desires".

I couldn't do it. But I think that people who do do it, and do it successfully, and with their families, are admirable.

By the way, anyone considering dropping out of "normal" (see above) society should read On the Road by Jack Kerouac.
Hey I just remembered something - any idea what an "Eng" is, in relation to England? It's always intrigued me, but I never thought to ask.
 
Originally posted by GilesGuthrie
It's undoubtedly a very powerful influence in our lives - the feeling that there's something out there that we're missing. Of course, it's something that a lot of people dismiss with the hackneyed phrase "The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence".

It could be a deep-seated instinct to roam as was genetically engineered during Man's early hunter/gatherer days. However, it's an increasingly popular trend, as more and more people leave the life that is perceived as "normal" (i.e. regular job, spouse, children, mortgage), and try something different, something a little more conservative, a little less consumption-oriented. And indeed a philosopher once said "to make a man truly happy, do not add to the sum of his possessions, but instead subtract from the sum of his desires".

I couldn't do it. But I think that people who do do it, and do it successfully, and with their families, are admirable.

By the way, anyone considering dropping out of "normal" (see above) society should read On the Road by Jack Kerouac.
In my younger years Kerouac and the rest of the Beat writers (especially Burroughs) were my roll models, and On The Road was like a manifesto. My best-friend-at-the-time and I would go sit in a hotel bar (because we liked the transient, anonymous feel of it) and read and write and decide where to go next. We'd go to New York with no money, drive a hundred miles just to eat at a diner and feel far away from some other life. We had no real responsibilities (and this is also probably why it took me six years to finish college), and we could never really keep a girl for long because they tied us down. We had a unique freindship in that we were not beholden to eachother in any way, and our purpose for eachother was simply someone who accepted, unconditionally, what most people, who expected stability and consistency, wouldn't approve of. We ended up being roommates for a year and eventually went our seperate ways, him east, me west. I haven't talked to him since the day I left the apartment and I sometimes wonder where fate has left him. I ended up living in four cities in three states in a period of four or five years. I wouldn't trade it for anything. The calm domesticity I enjoy now is only worth anything in relation to those formative years. It gave me experience and wisdom that can't be attained any other way. I fondly remember that feeling of total freedom, of the wilderness, odd jobs, solitude and anonymity, and highways and truck stops and sleeping in my car for three hours just before dawn.

It's imortant to remember that Kerouac's aunt sent him money any time he needed it, and that he died young eating tuna out of a can in a drunken stupor. The romantic wanderlust is natural, especially for males, in my opinion, and is great if you can finance it, otherwise you need an address and a job. The fact that this is prety much required is what makes people run away. Whenever I see young people getting very entrenched and grounded too early in life, I fear that they will someday end up running away, whereas if they run free first, they'll probably eventually grow weary of it and want to settle down, not because it's expected, but because they want to.
 
I've thought of making a similar move almost endlessly for some years now, and haven't partly thanks to those things I do still appreciate about my life and which are tying me down, and partly thanks to the debate I have going with myself about whether I'm trying to escape my life or escape myself, and whether or not either of those are even possible. The arguments relating to that last seem favorable - i.e.: yes, I'm trying to escape my life not myself, and the fact of a radical change of environment will also allow me escape - if not from myself, then at least from the stilted expression thereof as molded my drab surroundings and oppressive social convention.

On which subject I think it's important to note that most people would hesitate to make a move like this not because of a fear of abandoning the things they love, or the comforts they actually do appreciate, but because they don't sincerely believe there's any place left to escape TO, where our belligerent society hasn't stuck in it's nose - and values... and obligations. But, the fact remains that right now, it is still possible, in some form, despite it requiring *a lot* of sacrifice. This is important, because it might no longer be possible at all before any of us know it. If you still have a chance, and want to take it, take it.

That said, I haven't. And probably won't. But then, apparently, if it happens, it just happens. Spontaneously.
 
Originally posted by milefile Whenever I see young people getting very entrenched and grounded too early in life, I fear that they will someday end up running away, whereas if they run free first, they'll probably eventually grow weary of it and want to settle down, not because it's expected, but because they want to. [/B]

Unfortunate also are those who start off drifting, but want only to settle down, but never find peace, even as they age. Circumstances force them to drift in ever-widening circles. Literally or even figuratively. Desire and realization are not mutually inclusive.
 
Originally posted by Der Alta
Married life will do that to you.

Word of advice, don't get married. She'll boat anchor your life right into misery. ;)

AO


Ill watch myself and hopefully I wont get too caught up w/my girlfriend. :indiff:
 
one time, i blew up a beach ball, but when the ball was all filled up, i felt light headed and decided right then: "you know what, **** this ball, it doesnt deserve my help." so i squezed the ball untill it was flat once more.

the moral of the story is this: sometimes we go into a subconcious trance and make decisions that we would not normally make. it's a different level of thinking, not necessarily a good level, but a different one.
 
can i take my mobile phone and internet conection, computer, tv, sheesh.... my cat, and my other pets, and my ps2! cant forget that... microwave...
 
Originally posted by Ethix101
Yeah.
...I don't have any idea what I want to major in or do when I get out of school. I'm searching for a job and I really have no attachments to anything except my immediate family. It's crossed my mind on several occasions, but I think that I was way too spoiled growing up, having everything pretty much handed to me and I don't think I would last very long. I'd probably end up living on the streets or getting arrested trying to rob a convenience store or something.


-Mark

My words as well. Do notice how I didn't include the smilie face at the end, I wouldn't jest at assuming my life would go downhill really fast sometime in the future. I'll just have to keep on living to find that out.
As for simply drifting off into whatever life takes me, I'd like to do that sometime, but my so-called 'common sense' always kicks in when I think about it.
 
Originally posted by Atomic Wedgie
Unfortunate also are those who start off drifting, but want only to settle down, but never find peace, even as they age. Circumstances force them to drift in ever-widening circles. Literally or even figuratively. Desire and realization are not mutually inclusive.

I know that my parents were worried this is how I'd end up. I can see why. For a long time there was no reason for them to think otherwise, and of course it never even occurred to me. The future didn't extend past the end of the day and anything that made me think past the weekend was resented and eliminated. Then one day I started wondering where this all would end. I realized I was lonely and without purpose, but didn't know what to do about it. For one year I lived alone wondering what to do next, a virtual shut-in. Then I met my wife and I knew what to do next. Since then my life has been a study in providence. I have a lot to be grateful for.
 
Originally posted by milefile
I know that my parents were worried this is how I'd end up. I can see why. For a long time there was no reason for them to think otherwise, and of course it never even occurred to me. The future didn't extend past the end of the day and anything that made me think past the weekend was resented and eliminated. Then one day I started wondering where this all would end. I realized I was lonely and without purpose, but didn't know what to do about it. For one year I lived alone wondering what to do next, a virtual shut-in. Then I met my wife and I knew what to do next. Since then my life has been a study in providence. I have a lot to be grateful for.

I feel we all have a lot to be grateful for, just to be living in the general social circumstances we enjoy every day. Which is not to say things are great all around, or that we even really have cause for happiness in a general, de facto sort of way, but rather, it's simply an understanding that things could be off in ways which currently aren't and it's a set of circumstances which we all take for granted. Naturally.

That said, there is still a lot to be desired. Simplicity and self-realization, self-expression and creative and social liberties are all prime among those things which aren't open playgrounds to most people. The sad fact is that the very social circumstances which allow us so much material ease come with an immense emotional asphyxiation.

So we have an unbalance one way, whereas we could have an unbalance the opposite way, if you see what I mean. Either way, we'd take the situation for granted, and either way we might just think the grass would be greener on the either side... but which situation would actually produce - from as objective a viewpoint as possible - a greater sense of contentment in most people? I contend that emotional flow is more important than physical padding, as compelling as the latter may be. I can observe this by looking at myself and the friends I've known for so long. One-time street punks with nothing but each other - sometimes sleeping on the street, usually hungry, desperately in need of physical comforts, yet free in a material sense, which left us unrestrained, emotionally and socially. In the end, we were happy on a subconscious level, though we may have been (I know I was) desperately lonely in a romantic sense. Well, we're all yoke-wearing yuppies now, furniture-owning and in debt, mostly living alone, powerless, desperate, living in a world that makes less sense every day and hating every minute of it. Not to mention desperately lonely in a romantic sense.

The lucky ones get to live what you're living. The average - as I can see it - wind up with a lifetime's worth of opportunity to do nothing but work on their idiosyncracies.

And none of them would have ever thought they'd end up that way, if you ask them.





There might be a point in there somewhere in all that bile. If I figure out what it is, I'll clarify.
 
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