Wangan tuning help needed

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Like the title says I need some help tuning cars for the wangan. Ive been into wangan racing ever since I got to experience it first hand. Ive got cars tuned for the wangan but the problem is all of them have been tuned by someone else aka TheCardboardBox tuning garage. Their tunes are great but they don't have tunes for some of the cars I like so im trying to learn how to tune them for myself. My first weapon of choice is this beast
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The Honda NSX. I chose this car because of its great handling and its ability to act like a turbocharged car without the turbo lag. Transmission tuning is my biggest problem although I did get my nsx to barely scrape past the 200 mph mark (205 on 446hp). Suspension wise Im getting better but I still need help on that too and on LSD tuning I go blank minded. Anyone who has tips on tuning for this feel free to share any info you have or even add me to see if im getting any better. peace ^_^
 
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Whoa, nice car. A formidable track and touge car but I'm afraid it isn't as capable on the wangan. But don't let that deter you from trying, you may succeed where I have failed...well, more like where I've been too lazy to try hard enough, haha.

Your bet bet is this: try and replicate the stock gear ratios on the FC Transmission and run the car to see where you top out. Chances are, it'll be sooner than with stock tranny. Then adjust final gear for higher top speed, but don't overdo it. I suggest increments of 0.100 at a time. And further on, by 0.050. Leave enough room for drafting, I'd recommend 500-750 RPM's, since the NA2's engine is capable of revving far beyond the redline and into the realm of breaking the needle lol.

Once you've reached a desired, or at least formidable, top speed, you can go on tweaking gears 1-3 for acceleration. Of you have SSRX, do the 0-100mph test and then go further by timing it to 150mph. Since you're working with SIX gears, you can have a short 3rd and slightly shorter 4th which will propel you to 150mph with haste. As for 5th gear, that's where you might spend most of your time in so don't make it too long, or handling suffers, therefore so will acceleration. 6th gear should come in at lower RPM's than 5th since 450hp is barely enough to even reach 200mph on any other car and your car will retard under its own weight. Like I mentioned earlier, that car can rev until near infinity, so use that to your advantage.

Remember, when you're actually racing, you have to take into account, for gearing, the key corners and you'll want to tune to keep your car stable at high speeds and high G forces. For example, the 'chicane' before the tunnel (and subsequently the one past it, nearing the end of the lap) will usually be taken in 4th gear. The good thing about the NSX is it loses very little speed on the high speed curves but can be tricky on the switchbacks.

Now, a disclaimer. This isn't the end-all, be-all method to tune your gears but it's as good a starting point as any. Other tuners implement tranny tricks to maximize acceleration such as setting Final Gear and THEN top speed, followed by individual gears. The aforementioned method is effective for blistering acceleration but I tend to not use it because I haven't quite figured it out :lol:

I hope this helps, see you on the Wangan!
 
Whoa, nice car. A formidable track and touge car but I'm afraid it isn't as capable on the wangan. But don't let that deter you from trying, you may succeed where I have failed...well, more like where I've been too lazy to try hard enough, haha.

Your bet bet is this: try and replicate the stock gear ratios on the FC Transmission and run the car to see where you top out. Chances are, it'll be sooner than with stock tranny. Then adjust final gear for higher top speed, but don't overdo it. I suggest increments of 0.100 at a time. And further on, by 0.050. Leave enough room for drafting, I'd recommend 500-750 RPM's, since the NA2's engine is capable of revving far beyond the redline and into the realm of breaking the needle lol.

Once you've reached a desired, or at least formidable, top speed, you can go on tweaking gears 1-3 for acceleration. Of you have SSRX, do the 0-100mph test and then go further by timing it to 150mph. Since you're working with SIX gears, you can have a short 3rd and slightly shorter 4th which will propel you to 150mph with haste. As for 5th gear, that's where you might spend most of your time in so don't make it too long, or handling suffers, therefore so will acceleration. 6th gear should come in at lower RPM's than 5th since 450hp is barely enough to even reach 200mph on any other car and your car will retard under its own weight. Like I mentioned earlier, that car can rev until near infinity, so use that to your advantage.

Remember, when you're actually racing, you have to take into account, for gearing, the key corners and you'll want to tune to keep your car stable at high speeds and high G forces. For example, the 'chicane' before the tunnel (and subsequently the one past it, nearing the end of the lap) will usually be taken in 4th gear. The good thing about the NSX is it loses very little speed on the high speed curves but can be tricky on the switchbacks.

Now, a disclaimer. This isn't the end-all, be-all method to tune your gears but it's as good a starting point as any. Other tuners implement tranny tricks to maximize acceleration such as setting Final Gear and THEN top speed, followed by individual gears. The aforementioned method is effective for blistering acceleration but I tend to not use it because I haven't quite figured it out :lol:

I hope this helps, see you on the Wangan!

Thanks for the help solid! So heres the results of using those tips. Just like you said the NSX is not very good top speed wise. I even took another NSX I broke in (Pushing 460hp) and tried using this transmission tuning idea on it and it actually slowed it down (Ran 208 mph before and 201 mph after). The tuning technique I used before to get it to 208 was one suggested by Rotary Junkie where you set the final drive to max (5.000-6.000 depending on car), autoset/top speed to minimum, then make top gear as short as possible, first gear as long as possible and Space other gears evenly. Top speed wise it pretty good but acceleration wise its not to good. I think with a little tuning to the technique its self it'd make a great base technique for Wangan tuning.
 
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Yeah, I believe that was the technique I mentioned near the end of my post. I'm not sure what the name of it is or if it even has a formal name, the technique. I experimented with it once but I have quite gotten it down to a science yet. Honestly, my speciality is suspension and I'm just recently, after acquiring a driving wheel, getting o master LSD tuning.

Glad I could be of help.
 
Yeah, I believe that was the technique I mentioned near the end of my post. I'm not sure what the name of it is or if it even has a formal name, the technique. I experimented with it once but I have quite gotten it down to a science yet. Honestly, my speciality is suspension and I'm just recently, after acquiring a driving wheel, getting o master LSD tuning.

Glad I could be of help.

From what I know it doesn't have a formal name but it works really well for most cars. If you've got tips on suspension settings you mind giving some tips on that and LSD tuning if possible?
 
Sure thing. The most important detail to take into account is drivetrain.

If you look through the tunes in my thread, you may notice a pattern. It's beyond simple explanation, but there is a math, or formula, for LSD for every different drivetrain. Same goes for suspension, yet there are multitudes of variants for different driving styles, tracks and techniques. Therefor, suspension tuning is very subjective, but just as well is the differential tuning.
 
Update: So ive been trying for the past week to tune the NSX for the wangan and Ive been getting very little results. After a whole week of tuning my NSX has gone up 1 mph -_-. I think until I can get tuning down ill leave the NSX alone but I have a ton of other cars that are capable (IMO) of being tuned for the wangan.
 
Update: So ive been trying for the past week to tune the NSX for the wangan and Ive been getting very little results. After a whole week of tuning my NSX has gone up 1 mph -_-. I think until I can get tuning down ill leave the NSX alone but I have a ton of other cars that are capable (IMO) of being tuned for the wangan.

Yeah there is so much more potential in other machines, the NSX won't fare well against other cars I its class for wangan, which is 550hp and you're already underpowered by almost 100hp.
 
You know I do have a r32 that I think could be pretty fast if tuned right. Ill probably set up a room and give it a try.
 
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