PS4 Wanna buy PCs but not sure..help needed

Discussion in 'Project CARS 1' started by Chikane, Dec 7, 2015.

  1. Chikane_GTR

    Chikane_GTR (Banned)

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    new ps4 owner :sly: and i have 40 bucks on psn and i kinda wanna buy this i think :indiff:

    1- Is this game like gt where you buy cars and then can test drive then on any track?
    2- Where vipers and vettes added via updates?
    3- How much like forza and gt is this game like?
     
  2. Urinal2001

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    1 - You dont need to buy them, all cars and tracks are unlocked straight out of the box. But yes, you can drive them on any track you like (with the exception of only karts on karting tracks, but you can race karts on any track).

    2 - No, but possibly later.

    3 - Similar cars, some of the same real-world tracks. But PCars is far more simulator based, and doesnt have the same 'pick up and play' ethos. Once you have the handling dialled in how you like it, and adapt to driving more like you would in the real world, its fantastic. I strongly recommend it.
     
  3. Gyro1780

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    Firstly i would ask if you were going to be using a wheel or a controller to play the game?

    If using a controller i wouldn't bother wasting your money. The game is dull & the cars feel horrible to drive. Even when using recommended tuning set up's. The career mode is boring too. I really wish i hadn't wasted my money. This is my opinion of the game using a controller.

    I've read lots of reviews on this game. Good & bad. Most of the people who love the game seem to be using a wheel. Maybe this is why i didn't enjoy playing it becuase i wasn't using one. Maybe i'm missing something with the game? I'm not sure but i really don't feel like playing the game again.
     
  4. Bjorn Lucas

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    How did you end getting here??


    and about PC;




    1. Johnschoonbeard
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      @ONESPACE This post is written partly to address a couple of your points but also to maybe help the poster. Cheers.

      I have around 200 hours in the game. I have only driven the GT3 cars 5% of the time.

      My "favourites" are the Yellowbird, Group 5 monsters, Clio Cup, Formula A, Classic Lotus', Mitsubishi Evolution, Zonda R, Aston Martin DBR1/300, Radical SR8, Formula Gulf, Escorts Mark I, Caper Monterrey Stockcar (NASCAR), Mercedes CLK GT1, Caterham, BMW 1 Series M, BMW M1 Procar, BMW V12 LMR, Ford Sierra Cosworth, even the Karts are great once you get used to them. I could go on but I really do love pretty much every car in the game. You get the picture.....your post made me look at the list of cars and there wasn't a) one I haven't driven and b) one I didn't like.

      For me GT6 may as well be Need For Speed now. It's been made unplayable by the generally superb handling of Project Cars. To be fair that has been coming for a while with me using the likes of Stock Car Extreme (dreadful name but great handling) on my old PC.

      While there have been some bugs, they have been an annoyance only occasionally and the situation has improved hugely since launch. You learn to design the races around what you know works.

      In my opinion to get the most out of it (and you do need to put time in to get the most reward) the most important things to do are.....

      1 Wheel - generic ffb setup from the options menu. Do that first. A good setup varies by user and their equipment. Help on here and official site.

      2 Controller settings for the same reasons as 1 (again plenty of help on here and the official site)

      3 Make the gameplay option settings to your taste. There are more options in the game than any other driving game I've played.

      4 Force Feed Back per car (only once 1 is done)

      Once you've done all that then you can start to tune if you like to. I drive most cars with the default setup but that's only after wheel/controller setup. Tuning improves performance and something I have dabbled with a bit but get the other things how you want them first.

      I use full simulation mode, with a combination of realistic driving aids (what the car has in real life) and no aids.

      If no other game ever came out this would be my game until I die.

      I've played many driving games over the years. Here's a selection of some of the Autosport based ones of those and where I rate them for their time. It's not every driving game I've played but gives an idea. Most have been played with a wheel at some point. I also use a controller fairly regularly although obviously prefer the wheel.

      Anyway for what it's worth here's my list of how I rate other racing games.

      Game Stock Car Extreme PC
      Gtr2 PC
      iRacing PC
      RFactor PC
      Geoff Crammond's Grand Prix 1-4 Amiga/PC
      Forza 6 XB1
      GT5/6 PS4
      Forza 4 XB360
      GT4 (for offline) PS2
      Grid Autosport PS3
      NFS Shift 2 PS3
      Dirt 2/3
      Grid
      Grid 2

      Sorry never played Toca. Somehow it passed me by as I was never aware of it until later.
      Assetta Corsa and Race Room Real Experience won't run on my PC :( but AC will be mine once it's out on PS4.

      Having a regular core group of racers helps with online racing. Have a look at us (CRAP pCARS - mentioned earlier) or one of the other groups. You'll find plenty of help and racing in one of them.

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      http://crap.boards.net (private forum)

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      ONESPACE
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      Dec 1, 2015
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      :bowdown:I'm almost speechless. Just kidding man. Nice post.

      I've got one hell of a list too. I've always raced with a core of good racers. Been doing this online since 2006. But hey didn't a lot of people start in 1996, with Grand Tourismo. I hate high speed ring with a passion, lol. Had to put that in there, sorry.

      I wouldn't be on Gtplanet if Grid Autosport, didn't ruin our website. Everybody left, lol, to go run that arcade game. But hey to each their own. Anyway GTPLANET is a much better site then what we had.

      Project Cars is a real good damn game with bugs, oh well I'm over it. And now I know that the default setup mode side of the game is garbage.
      The tuning side of the game works just fine and I like it. I mean the game is really good. But it's no fun for people who don't have time for tuning and such. Because default mode sucks.

      I'd have a bunch of hours on Pcars too, but I cracked the rim on my T500 playing GT6. And that's because SMS delayed the launch date like 6 months. Also took a month off to move across country. I was all set to race Pcars in 2014. Yes I'm hard on wheels. My wheel list is almost as long as my game list, lol.
      I got like 70 hours now, but deleted the game 3 times to figure some bugs out, or I'd probably be around 150 hours.

      But in a nut shell, the game is a good. SMS just didn't care about the non tuning guys. (default setup)




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      Dec 2, 2015
      Report #34
      JohnScoonsBeard said
      @ONESPACE This post is written partly to address a couple of your points but also to maybe help the poster. Cheers.

      I have around 200 hours in the game. I have only driven the GT3 cars 5% of the time.

      My "favourites" are the Yellowbird, Group 5 monsters, Clio Cup, Formula A, Classic Lotus', Mitsubishi Evolution, Zonda R, Aston Martin DBR1/300, Radical SR8, Formula Gulf, Escorts Mark I, Caper Monterrey Stockcar (NASCAR), Mercedes CLK GT1, Caterham, BMW 1 Series M, BMW M1 Procar, BMW V12 LMR, Ford Sierra Cosworth, even the Karts are great once you get used to them. I could go on but I really do love pretty much every car in the game. You get the picture.....your post made me look at the list of cars and there wasn't a) one I haven't driven and b) one I didn't like.

      For me GT6 may as well be Need For Speed now. It's been made unplayable by the generally superb handling of Project Cars. To be fair that has been coming for a while with me using the likes of Stock Car Extreme (dreadful name but great handling) on my old PC.

      While there have been some bugs, they have been an annoyance only occasionally and the situation has improved hugely since launch. You learn to design the races around what you know works.

      In my opinion to get the most out of it (and you do need to put time in to get the most reward) the most important things to do are.....

      1 Wheel - generic ffb setup from the options menu. Do that first. A good setup varies by user and their equipment. Help on here and official site.

      2 Controller settings for the same reasons as 1 (again plenty of help on here and the official site)

      3 Make the gameplay option settings to your taste. There are more options in the game than any other driving game I've played.

      4 Force Feed Back per car (only once 1 is done)

      Once you've done all that then you can start to tune if you like to. I drive most cars with the default setup but that's only after wheel/controller setup. Tuning improves performance and something I have dabbled with a bit but get the other things how you want them first.

      I use full simulation mode, with a combination of realistic driving aids (what the car has in real life) and no aids.

      If no other game ever came out this would be my game until I die.

      I've played many driving games over the years. Here's a selection of some of the Autosport based ones of those and where I rate them for their time. It's not every driving game I've played but gives an idea. Most have been played with a wheel at some point. I also use a controller fairly regularly although obviously prefer the wheel.

      Anyway for what it's worth here's my list of how I rate other racing games.

      Game Stock Car Extreme PC
      Gtr2 PC
      iRacing PC
      RFactor PC
      Geoff Crammond's Grand Prix 1-4 Amiga/PC
      Forza 6 XB1
      GT5/6 PS4
      Forza 4 XB360
      GT4 (for offline) PS2
      Grid Autosport PS3
      NFS Shift 2 PS3
      Dirt 2/3
      Grid
      Grid 2

      Sorry never played Toca. Somehow it passed me by as I was never aware of it until later.
      Assetta Corsa and Race Room Real Experience won't run on my PC :( but AC will be mine once it's out on PS4.

      Having a regular core group of racers helps with online racing. Have a look at us (CRAP pCARS - mentioned earlier) or one of the other groups. You'll find plenty of help and racing in one of them.
      Click to expand...


      i am in the same league as John, but i did not screw around with the default settings,. i only adjusted it to controller type 2 or 3,... and i put the ffb a bit down around 50 %. ( i have a t300, played over 300 hours)
      This just feels awesome to me, i feel everything curbs jumps sliding etc...

      only thing getting used too is a bit of tuning, i am not good with it, but because we drive so many different cars we all have some special cars we are good with!!

      and what John says, if there would only be 1 game that i could play in my whole life, this would be it!!!!!

      and i also play every racing game out there i can play,.. (i think i have over 50 racing games in my collection)
     
  5. JohnScoonsBeard

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    I have a wheel but am currently forced to play on controller at the moment due to an inability to safely navigate my own stairs. I've personally found it much, much better than the likes of Gran Turismo or Forza with the following setup for controller.

    My preferred settings (same for DS4 and XB1):

    Options
    Controls
    R1
    Down to the bottom of configuration
    Select controller input mode 3
    Then make the following changes
    Deadzone=10
    Sensitivity=20
    Throttle 30
    Brake dz 6
    Speed sensitivity= 80
    Filtering=50
    Input Mode=3
    Soft Steering Damping=on

    Buy it and make your own mind up.
     
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  6. EmArA

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    Welcome to the club :cheers:

    This game is miles better than GT.
    65 or 70 cars are unlocked and you will get a free car every month to download from the store.
    There are also on demand DLCs if you want to pay for new tracks and cars. All previous DLCs offered in total around 10 new cars and 3 new tracks since the game was released in May.
    Check the action out and see for yourself :dopey:
    Get yourself a wheel man and enjoy the action.












    Check my channel in signature if you want to watch more.

    :gtpflag::gtpflag:
     
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  7. GrumpyGrumps

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    I'm in exactly the same boat as you my friend. I got a PS4 two days ago, and I took the leap of buying Project Cars as my first game. You are probably concerned mostly, as I was, with getting out of the GT/Forza comfort zone and trying something completely new to you.

    In response to that concern, I will say that Project Cars is, in a word, unbelievable...and I only play with a controller, not a wheel. The first thing that you will notice is how much MORE the gameplay is. I know that is terrible grammar, but it is true. The detail and texture of the graphics, the intensity of the feedback, and the sound, oh the SOUND! The sound is staggeringly good, it's sublime.

    Yes, there are things that will take some getting used to reading the feel of the cars when using a controller, and I highly recommend that you watch this video: when setting up your controls.

    Additionally, I use the right thumbstick for throttle and brake, and manually reformatting the button assignments was difficult to do right out of the box. (A word to the wise - if you do want to reformat the button assignments, make a note of which functions are assigned in the default setup and make sure they all still have a button assigned to them when you are done reformatting. Otherwise, you will get a 'not all required operations are assigned' warning.)

    Overall though, look at it this way: play Project Cars for a couple of hours and then go back to GT6. I'm sorry to say this because I love GT6, but you will be disappointed by how much LESS GT6 is and, as I said above, you will be so impressed by how much MORE Project Cars has to offer. Do your research, become informed, and you'll make the right choice for you, don't worry.

    P.s. #1 - Make sure you download Update 7.0 as well as all of the free DLC cars.

    P.s. #2 - Tuning the cars is a much, much more involved process in Project Cars that in GT6 due to the sheer quantity of settings that can be altered. However, there are innumerable posts and videos out there to guide you through the process, and you might just enjoy the opportunity to learn how much more there is going on in a car than is presented in GT6.

    P.s. #3 - It is true that Project Cars lacks the 'save your credits for upgrades or new cars' format to the career mode, and for some people this will seem like a bigger loss in the experience than it does for others. My personal view? Project Cars focuses on the racing, and only the racing. Since that is what I wanted the game for, I'm not bothered at all.
     
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  8. killerjimbag

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    Excellent post.:tup: Good to see someone did their homework and took the time to search.
    On a side note,if you have access to a USB hub and a spare keyboard,assigning things is way easier. It gives you more options to assign to your controller what you want.:gtpflag:
     
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  9. TheElbows

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    Short answer to the OP question...if you want another Forza/GT title, do not buy PCars.

    If you want an excellent middle-ground game between arcade and sim-racing (leaning more to the sim-racing side) pick up PCars. In general it sounds like it's been buggy-ish for console users but it's very solid at the moment on the PC.

    Do yourself a favor if you get PCars. Turn most of the HUD off. With no wonky career or spending millions of credits to upgrade cars you can concentrate on something entirely different: learning to drive. If you want a more immersive experience, drive with the head-camera, turn off the HUD and get yourself a motec-style app.

    If you're planning to play the game with a fully HUD, driving line, exterior cameras etc...you may be better off sticking with the other racing titles as you'll miss a lot of what PCars can bring to your gaming.
     
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  10. DaBomm4

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    I agree with most of the post except for this paragraph, I am only on keyboard at the moment and trying to get use to car control with it, so that may be part of my limitation. Even with my very low skill and learning the physics of the game I am still seeing some of the greatness in PCars. I definitely feel that the game is worth a go as long as you take some time to set the controls to fit your setup.
     
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