Wanna Drift??

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Just thought I'd start a thread on drifting.

How to do it? What cars? and What tracks?

First I'll get to basic car set-up.
The car should have a "moderate" suspension setting, with soft springs, and shocks around 4-5 on all settings. All setting should be the same, BTW. The toe should be slightly out/in (F/R) -.10/.10 The car should have little rear neg. camber (.9-1.1), while the front shold be moderate (1.7-2.1). The sway bars should be mild, 3/3 or 4/4.

Ride height has a large influence on the ability to break traction easily. With all drift cars, raise the rear ride height to about 10-15mm heigher than the front (which should be as low as possible). This will shift the weight balence to the front wheels, and off the rear.

The transmission should be set up for hard acceleration through gears 1-3, and a bit more for top speed in gears 4-5, or 4-6.

Some cars won't break traction well with Stage 4 turbos or Racing innercoolers, due to increased spool-up time and decreased low-RPM tourque.

Soft tires (not super-soft) work best for drifting. They break & regain traction easily and predictably. Do not use super-soft tires in front, or else you will have an unbalenced drift and tend to spin out...a 4wheel drift is easier to control.

How to do it?:

Easiest way to drift an entire corner is to enter the outside of the corner and start the turn late. For example, in a left turn, stay to the right hand side of the turn, and wait until late in the turn to lift off the gas, start the turn sharply and hit the gass. Control the drift by modulating the throttle. Keep the front wheels pointed in the direction of the turn (pointed the way you want to go). If the back end starts to spin around, get off the gas and let go of the Analog joystick right away. For example; if you're drifting a left turn, and the back end comes out, DO NOT try to correct it by turning the wheels from full lock-left, to full lock-right...you will just spin out. Let go of the gas and steering, the car will straighten itself.

What cars?:

BY FAR, the best car to drift with is the '99 Mitsubi**** Lancer Rally car (won in the Endurance race SS Route VI). The car doesn't use an LSD, but instead it uses a YAW system set on "1" (full soft).

Next, you've got the Nissan Silvias. '91 2000 K's models are easy to snap around, as are the '95 and '97's.

The Lancers, RS specifically since it's lighter than the GSR, work very well.

The AE86's work well (Toyota Tureno), good balence.

The R34 GT-S (the RWD car) works well.

The Escort Rally Car works very well.

The Audi-TT works very, very well.

The Cusco Impreza and APEX Tureno both work well when set up correctly. i.e. low rear downforce, soft rear tires, hard LSD. These cars are hard to break loose and spin when setup for road racing.
 
Opps!

Forgot to include the best tracks for drifting, sorry. :eek:

hmmm 2nd thought, I'm too tired to remember them all...I'll post tomarrow. :rolleyes:
 
ill tell ya my drift set up.

stock mercury cougar with simulation tyres.

nothing beats it...maybe the lancer rally car 99 but only because of the yaw control. give the cougar a chop and see what you think
 
(1)Rome Night- Tied for #1. Wide sweeping curves, good traction and track angles.

(1)Autumn Ring- Tied for #1. Good traction & track angles.

(2)Seattle Full Crs- Good turn angles due to different elevation changes.

(3)Tahiti Road- Wide turns, lots of room for error (and correction). Good track for learning.

(4)Grindelwald- Same as Tahiti Road.

(5)SS & Clubman Route 5- Nice long turns & great replays.
 
I didn't include Midfeild because there's only a few corners that really work well with drifting, and no transitions. More of a high speed coarse.

I also didn't include High Speed Ring because the corners on that track are too long and level out too quickly causing the back end to whip around unexpectedly.

I should have also included the Altezza LM, Tom's Supra, 3000GT(Supra), Nismo 270R & Sil-Eighty (both GREAT cars), and [R] Trueno '83 in the drift-car list also.
 
thank you for posting this!!! i love drifting(real life and the game)and i was always curious what settings were the best. usually i had just used the Audi TT LM, silvia, or R34, but thanks for those settings! They will be put to use as soon as i submit this reply :D
-Chris
 
boostcreep, do you drive a DSM?

I forgot to include Autum Mini.....and maybe Motorsports land, although I like Autum Mini better b/c of the elevation changes and blind drop-offs and turns.
 
I am currently shopping for a DSM, 1992 talon tsi should soon be in my driveway... so no, not yet. I think you thought i did because someone on dsmtalk.com has the same screen name. No, thats not me. You probably wouldnt recognize me from those forums, i dont post much there, I mostly read. If you have no idea what im talking about ill just go hide in the corner.
chris
 
that's probably why. boostcreep is a bit of a problem with DSM's also.

I used to frequent dsmtalk, and dsm.org, and another but i forget the name....been a quite a few months though, used to run a turbo'd 1.8L...few hundred lbs lighter than a GS or GS-R but same power. he..he..
 
if you really wanna have some fun...

equip the Autech 4-door GT-R Skyline with super-soft's up front, and Sports tires in rear. Along with all the racing goodies (turbo &exhaust and such).

Suspension Setup:

9.5/11.00
100/115
6/7
5/5
1.8/.9
-.20/.20
3/4

LSD
6/21
34/41
16/21

ASCS @ 101

Take it to Autum Mini and enjoy full-lock-to-full-lock drifting on every turn & transition.
 
i just got off playstation and using my wheel. It's hard man! I set up my suspension and i still cant get it. I got a niiiiice four wheel drift once, and that was it. My road racing is really good, but I'm gonna have to work on the drifting. I even used your tips.... i guess its just gonna take practice... thanks though!
chris
 
Okay I have a Q's and a Problem
1. Is just me or is it just a lot harder to drift in GT2 then GT?

Okay now is the problem.
I bought the AE86 83' and set it up accordingly and tried to drift. But it doesn't work. When I start braking and try to turn to start the drift it doesn't work. It use to work all the time in GT. :cry:
I tried all the method of drifting I knew such as twist drift, brake drift, accel release drift, etc. no good. can u give me the EXACT setting to the AE86 such as the gear ratio, etc.

I installed the following:
LSD Full Customization
Full Racing Transmission
260Hp
Soft Tire
Full Customization Suspension
Sport Brake/Brake Controller
Carbon Driveshaft
Triple Clutch
Racing Flywheel
 
i have a question. what is better, drifting or braking before a turn then accelerating through it? im sure it probably makes a big difference in your times.
 
J turns, which also involve tire traction, more so the front, I think, were hard to do in GT2. GT3 fixed it. Try GT1, if you have it, and take the Corvette out and perform a j turn, then try it in GT2. If you have GT3 you will notice that it acts like GT1.
 
one more thing everyone might want to try is the scandinavian flick, a trick where you....
1. turn the opposite way of which you will when you turn(if its a left hander, turn right, directly before the apex). Turn very sharply, very quickly
2. Immediately turn the other way, or the corect way you want to be turning. You can either lift the throttle or apply brake modulation if you wanna be risky.

This is fun when youre driving a high hp, 4wd car like a RUF ctr2. You will be looking sideways, and definitely need to apply opposite lock and throttle in rwd cars after doing this, but its fun as hell to "almost spin out" in every single turn:D

-chris
 
Autum Mini?
Motorsport Land?

i htink ive seen a demo of the mines lancer going around motorsport land, and im curious... how the hell do you get to the two tracks listed above?

motorsport land looks prety fun, but i have no idea how to get there

anything ideas?
 
Originally posted by KanaL
Autum Mini?
Motorsport Land?

i htink ive seen a demo of the mines lancer going around motorsport land, and im curious... how the hell do you get to the two tracks listed above?

motorsport land looks prety fun, but i have no idea how to get there

anything ideas?
i dont know how to get it either!! help..... please..... someone?
chris
 
get all licenses (not all golds, just the licenses) on GT Mode and Motorsports land will be available on the Arcade Mode disk. :)

don't know about Autumn Ring Mini :(
 
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