What about Ford GT GR3 ‘18 - tips?

[merni14]

Okay, i really struggle controlling the Ford GT GTE on the Suzuka time trial. In general, the car seems to just break away under braking, more so with BOP on. It actually is pretty bad, since i chose it for the Manu-series as well…

Am i the only one struggling with this, or is it something polyphony needs to tackle?

 

[BrunusCL82]

In my opinion, Ford GT GTE, Audi R8 GT3, Ferrari 458 GT3, Lambo Huracan GT3 have broken physics. If these cars had this handling in the real world, they would have already killed a lot of drivers. Interestingly, the McLaren GT3, in GT7, which is also MR, has great handling.

Anyway, how can a car from the last decade be harder to drive than a '90s DTM that has a higher center of gravity and thinner tires?

PS: I remember watching an interview with Tony Kanaan on the Rubens Barrichello Channel and the IndyCar driver said that when he drove the Ford GT at Le Mans he felt like he was driving a formula car because it was so stable and fast.

 

[merni14]

Yeah, i figured it must’ve had something to do with it being an MR… tried the FR BMW and i was able to push it immediately.

I initially thought it had something to do with the brake balance ending being kind of all in the back with BOP on…, they really should fix the MR’s then.

 

[Fuzzi0n]

In my opinion, Ford GT GTE, Audi R8 GT3, Ferrari 458 GT3, Lambo Huracan GT3 have broken physics. If these cars had this handling in the real world, they would have already killed a lot of drivers.

How can a car from the last decade be harder to drive than a '90s DTM that has a higher center of gravity and thinner tires?

There's definitely something wrong with some of the MR cars, run any amount of rake and they just oversteer like you've got plastic rear tyres. Seems to be something weird related to weight distribution because if you put some ballast forwards they just handle like normal cars again. Some of them have insane understeer on the throttle too which also doesn't seem right.

For OP, one of the biggest issues with that car is that the downforce isn't as high as it should be considering it's a GTE car. It frustrates me that we've got several GTE specification cars and they're basically no quicker than GT3 even though they would be multiple seconds a lap faster.

 

[HyperSpeeder]

They're tuned wrong for BoP regulation. Stock tunes are crap.

 

[Keef]

considering it's a GTE car.

Trying to emulate real life categories is not what GTS and GT7 are trying to emulate. The actual categories are confusing as hell and there have been a ridiculous number of them throughout the years. The game's categories simplify everything and attempts to solve it with BoP which is broken of course.

 

[Meythia]

The game's categories simplify everything and attempts to solve it with BoP which is broken of course.

Funny: while BoP is enabled, the cars dont have the same PP. Also when setting weight and ECU for recreating BoP values, PP is different than from when BoP is enabled.

 

[Autobahn GTO]

I was doing CE at the Daytona Road Course (w/ update 1.13/1.15), and I found the car has a tendency to oversteer under braking and understeer when accelerating, especially at the Bus Stop chicane where you could easily lose up to a second there if you bleed off too much speed on entry trying to keep the car under control. The car doesn't seem to be very stable going over the kerbs, either. I suppose that's what you'd expect from a MR car, but it was very frustrating indeed. The only change I could make was to set the brake balance to +5, which did help a little for me.

 

[Talon16]

The Gr3 MR cars in GT7 are broken, especially when BoP is applied. There are some things you can do to stabilize them, but BoP negates it all.

That Ford GT literally won its class at LeMan in 2016... but in GT7 in OEM state it's a disaster.

 

[PirovacBoy]

Okay, i really struggle controlling the Ford GT GTE on the Suzuka time trial. In general, the car seems to just break away under braking, more so with BOP on. It actually is pretty bad, since i chose it for the Manu-series as well…

Am i the only one struggling with this, or is it something polyphony needs to tackle?

Just use ABS weak when BOP is applied on MR Cars, especially the Ferrari, Lambo, Audi, Renault and the Ford GTE.
The other MR Cars are a bit more stable but they also benefit from using ABS weak.
That’s at least what I do and it works pretty well.
Not that it solves the Issue these Cars suffer from, but at least it mitigates the Broken Behavior which all MR Gr3 seem to have.

 

[GTboyz]

I had to brake and throttle at the same time to keep the car stable under heavy braking, it's the same case with the 917k. I don't think these cars are like these in real life.

 

[ebadevil]

I had to brake and throttle at the same time to keep the car stable under heavy braking, it's the same case with the 917k. I don't think these cars are like these in real life.

I'm so confused by the 917K braking. What in the world is wrong with it? Why does it go spinning any time you brake hard? How can it be fixed?

 

[GTboyz]

I'm so confused by the 917K braking. What in the world is wrong with it? Why does it go spinning any time you brake hard? How can it be fixed?

Probably ballast at the rear ? though I'm trying to keep the car as stock as possible. I think the weight transfer is miffed but I don't know.

 

[ebadevil]

Probably ballast at the rear ? though I'm trying to keep the car as stock as possible. I think the weight transfer is miffed but I don't know.

Yeah same here, not trying to mess with the weight too much but I guess this might be the case of having to put some weight at the front to balance it out

 

[GTboyz]

Yeah same here, not trying to mess with the weight too much but I guess this might be the case of having to put some weight at the front to balance it out

What's weird is that other MR cars (Group C) handles great to me. I thought it's the case of needing downforce but the Ford GTLE already has a huge spoiler at the back.

 

[merni14]

Weird thing is when i tick up the downforce by 15-20 points, most of the issues are gone though. So i guess the base is just real unbalanced.