What do prefer race cars or road cars?

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What do you prefer road cars or race cars?

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I got the idea for thread form another I read in the GT5 forum and it got me to think what do I like best race cars or road cars? For me I love them both sometimes like to out the R8 whip it around Midfield sometimes I like take a MRtwo and run it around the trial mountain. To be honest I like most of the cars in the game. I know everybody doesn't feel like so I see what other folks think. So how bout?
 
I love taking a BMW M3 or a volvo s40 around the nurburgring, just beause you can do anything to them and they will stay on the track no matter what, its great!
 
I prefer race cars because of the handling advantages. i'm also amazed at how the top racers have pretty evenly matched road cars powerwise, but they just can't be touched!
 
Mostly race cars for the high speed/torque challenge. I don't really like the very technical style of most road cars.
 
Roadcars. They're more challenging to drive fast.
 
Road cars for me. They are more involving. The race cars need more of a join-the-dots kind of approach, they need more commitment but tend to offer less playability.

Things happen faster in the race cars too, so when I miss a dot, I often fall off the road, while in the road car I've got more time to drive around my errors.
 
I would say road cars. I like race cars, but I like the stock feel of road cars. And you can tune them more!
 
Road cars, Street cars, etc, something you'd see in a BMI or Hot Version DVD, their fun to play with, wether its drifting in the rain, or decending a mountain course, etc, their just more down to earth if you ask me
 
Road cars, definitely. They are a lot more 'involved driving'.

High powered road car with sports tyres on a challenging track.
Turn all the driving aids OFF! if your in arcade mode and turn the AI cars up to at least four or five.

Then you,ve got a challenging car to try and handle. As well as trying to beat faster opponents.

You have total control instead of the game doing half of it for you.
 
Yeah, I definitely prefer road cars. I'm not that interested in hyperkinetic missles, even if they do have incredible corner grip, acceleration, and braking. Racecars are more an excercise in precise timing and quick reactions than anything else.

I prefer the more strategic finesse needed to drive a road car at speed. Because you can't rely on downforce, slicks, and huge power to keep going fast, you really need to take care to be as smooth and efficient as possible. That's much more interesting to me than just being able to accurately hit your target from the other end of a long straight.
 
i love driving road cars. Its more challenging since you don't got the superb handling race cars have
 
Duke and I are of like mind on this one - hardly a surprise I suppose :D.

I can quite happily spend hours spannering the suspension of a classic sports car to get it 'feeling' right and then applying that delicate, predictive, finesse to driving them around on N or low grip S tyres. It's one of the strong points of the game that, with nothing more than the force feedback and on-screen subtle cues, you can detect and work with the balance of a car in the corner.

I've often referred to the "race" cars in the game as point-and-click-missiles and I find driving them is more an excercise in frantic 'button-mashing' (or the DFP/G25 equivalent :D) than driving simulation i.e. that sensation of controlling the understeer/oversteer equation is missing.

That doesn't mean that they don't have a place of course, it's just that it's not a part of the game that appeals to me.
 
Road cars for me too, I also prefer mild tuning when possible (stock/sports suspension and N3s, possibly altered gear ratios and/or a simple LSD) so I can really play with the throttle and dynamics to balance the car...

I think I share your thoughts on race cars as well, especially LMP/Group C cars. Yes, they're insanely fast, but they hurt my arms and I feel more like I'm hanging on than actually pushing the car. GT/touring cars are more to my liking, but it's not as fun as road cars.

I like this quote, sukerkin:
I've often referred to the "race" cars in the game as point-and-click-missiles and I find driving them is more an excercise in frantic 'button-mashing' (or the DFP/G25 equivalent) than driving simulation i.e. that sensation of controlling the understeer/oversteer equation is missing.
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It all depends on the mood, of course. But all in all I actually prefer the racecars. GT:s preferably, but all racecars have their charm. It is very demanding to push the really fast cars to their limits, and that appeals to me.

Of course, driving a Ford GT or a Pagani Zonda on the edge is very demanding aswell, but I find it less rewarding than the racecars.

I can spend hours setting a racecar up just to get that groove I´m looking for.

Since I very rarely put in any upgrades whatsoever in any car in GT4, I loose interest quicker in a roadcar, since it doesn´t have the tuningoptions I want.
And face it; once you buy a FC suspension and some other tuningparts, the entire "roadcar" mentality has blown out the window. You are IE driving a racecar.
 
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Yeah, I definitely prefer road cars. I'm not that interested in hyperkinetic missles, even if they do have incredible corner grip, acceleration, and braking. Racecars are more an excercise in precise timing and quick reactions than anything else.

I prefer the more strategic finesse needed to drive a road car at speed. Because you can't rely on downforce, slicks, and huge power to keep going fast, you really need to take care to be as smooth and efficient as possible. That's much more interesting to me than just being able to accurately hit your target from the other end of a long straight.
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I tried to rep this post and got the "must spread some around..."
None the less, an excellent post here. 👍

Although I enjoy both Road and Race cars, Duke's explaination of road cars says nearly everything that needs to be said about why "I" love road cars. Of course, even though I enjoy racing road cars...
I'd say I am split 75/25 road cars/ race cars... I don't really enjoy racing race cars as much and there aren't as many race cars I like to drive.

Sure there are plenty of great race cars but the differences between them is what makes one better than another (IMO). So for cars like the JGTC cars, I love to race them all but there isn't one Supra, Skyline, or NSX in the group that really stands out for me. That's one reason I really love to race the McLaren F1! :dopey:

Road cars on the other hand have amazing differences, personalities I guess you could say. While it is fun to race a Supra vs Skyline JGTC style, I preffer racing a road Evo vs Sti... Then it's not just a matter of which car is faster but also which car feels better to you.
I mean, when you equip a JGTC Supra with the same specs as a JGTC Skyline there is very little difference in the way they are driven. However, with a comparison of road cars like the Evo and Sti, you get two different worlds of handling characteristics (even though they are equipped the same way with the same drivetrains and all that)...

So with all that said, I go back to what Duke said. 👍 👍
I'm also adding that I really enjoy racing the race cars but not quite the same way as road cars.

I can get a road car out on the Ring and just do laps for the sake of driving, with a race car I need some reason (like an OLR event) to keep me running the Ring (unless it's the McLaren F1! :lol: ).
 
Road cars. They are more fun in essence. And I really think Tuner's are the best.
 
I have bought a number of road cars in GT4 and tuned them to the spec of actual real life race cars. What category does that put me in? :)
 
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I have bought a number of road cars in GT4 and tuned them to the spec of actual real life race cars. What category does that put me in? :)
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Someone always has to be difficult... :p
 
I choose road cars. I like that fact that you have to really control the thing, were as race cars, you can kinda wing it while going insanely fast.

I also like the variety in road cars. Each car is different from the last. Where as, if you ask me, all the race cars feel pretty much the same, with the exception of a few JGTC GT300s... in road cars, your driving technique changes, one car you may be able to brake late and turn hard with no problems (2001 S2000 for example), but in another, you may have to brake earlier and really follow the correct racing line (RUF RGT for example).

But, my question is; Are you talking about race cars with racing tires, and road cars with road tires? Or Race cars with road tires and road cars with road tires? There is a difference.
 
If you ask me, I say racecars with racetyres and stock roadcars on roadtyres, but that´s just me!
I maintain my position in saying that a tuned roadcar is no longer a roadcar...to a certain limit of course. There are tuner cars, but the line between a racecar and a tuner is drawn where? Tyres are one thing, but what else?
I would definitly call any fully tuned car a racecar, even if it had N2´s fitted.
 
I can see your point, Team666 but I don't think that the assertion that a 'normal' car with all the bells and whistles applied is a race-car within the parameters of the game. I concur that in RL you'd be quite right.

It's one of the disappointments of GT4 that if I take, say, just pulling a marque out of the air {:D}, a TVR and bolt everything on it, even a tea-tray, it still will not perform in the same league as the off-the-shelf racers on the roster.

I think in part that is down to the basic aims that GT set out with i.e. to have 'normal' cars handle in a good approximation of real life. All the racecar extrapolations take the performance further and further away from 'real'. This ignores the ever-suspected prescence of a pro-Nippon bias of course, which makes Japanese models a little better than they should be and makes European models a little worse.

To elaborate on my inital post a touch. For me, the greatest fun the game provides is to take something like the Alfa Romeo Giulia Speciale, that handles like a bag-of-spanners-in-a-cement-mixer in stock form, add the suspension and transmission upgrades, put N grade boots on it and fettle with the tuning until it becomes a joy to drive.
 
You are right of course, but at the same time you´re not!
There are pretty low level racecars out there aswell, take the BMW 320i Touringcar for an example. A fully modded just about anycar will outrun the Beemer!
I know there are threads in these forums that are named "make your own BTCC car" and "make your own rallycar" or the likes, and there you simply spec tune, and that´s it! All I´m saying is that racecars aren´t necessarily rockets on rails, and roadcars are not necessarily roadcars once you have upgraded them.
 
Race cars, the slow RPM in a road car are to slwo that i just dont enjoy playing. Plus a lot of Race Cars have higher ACCEL, Top Speed and Handling.
 
I'm 50/50 on both. on one hand, I like the Road cars just for the challenge of racing stock(mostly on the ring) and I like Race cars because its as close as I can get to racing for real (because I'm too scared to to Drive in real life). I feel that actually they both have Characteristics that one is better at. for instance, the Pontiac GTO has more top end, but the Nissan Skyline has better cornering this also happens between the Pagani Zonda LM and the Mazda RX-8. I also find what Team 666 said very true(to me at least). there are road cars I 've seen that with some fine tuning, actually can be race cars. I've done this with the TVR Cerbera Speed 12. when I first bought it, it was so fast yet so hard to turn and when I did about an hour worth of adjustments(and the final touch being the rear wing because I wanted to make my own Speed 12 race car), it now handles more like a race car then it does a road car.
 
I would say a road car is "realistically" tuned.....

Show me a road car that normally costs $20,000, but has a $50,000 turbo, plus whatever insane mods and is still street legal. You probably can't, I think that is logically were the line is drawn.

Sure, your road car can have a carbon shaft, racing flywheel and clutch, maybe even a small turbo and roll cage, but, when you start putting in huge turbos, full stage 3 weight reduction, racing tires, racing transmission; you lose it's road car aspect.
 
Road car, usually anything that uses Racing tires is not preferred by me with the exception of the Audi TT-R. Most of the cars I use in GT4 are road cars and the highest level of tire I would put on them are SS. Putting Racing tires on Road cars is just degrading the car itself, covering up bad driving habits and imperfect suspension tuning, also makes the cars feel like nfs, so if I wanted to drive fast and corner at 100mph, then I would rather play nfs. The reason why I like GT4 is the realistic feel of how the cars handle, not for the sake of insane speed.
 
I like 'em both, but have a slight preference towards road & passenger cars. They seem the most realistic to me (like something I would drive occasionally at work since I'm a mechanic). But I like the race cars, too.

The only cars in GT I tend to avoid are LM and other fantasy machines. If I can't look up a car's stats (from a real-life website like www.supercars.net) and compare that real car to the game car, something just doesn't feel right. I'd rather race an Oreca Viper than a Viper LM is what I'm trying to say.

Man, you shoulda made this thread into a poll! Whatya say admins? Can it be done?
 
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yep make it a poll :sly:

I prefer the road cars and tweaking/tuning them up. Much easier to relate to it that way. If i want to race a Le Mans(F1 car in disguse :dopey: ) or F1 car then i`ll buy the appropriate game. GT to me is about the road cars,since they out number the full on race cars by a large percentage after all!

Oh and i F&^%$#G hate the rally cars and races! F@#$%^G HATE IT! If i want to race rally i`ll buy Colin freaking McCrae! Pd should leave the rally to the guys who do it best.
 
When I started this thread I was really thinking about the tires used becuase to me everybody has there own preferences when it comes to tires. Personally I rotate between SM and RH depending on how I feel. I can also agree that some fully modded road cars are quasi-race cars. I thought about doing a poll and maybe I should have anyway maybe the mods could add that?
 
No, unfortunately, I can't add a poll to this thread. All I can do is edit an existing poll.

If you create a new thread with a poll, I can merge the two, and we'll see what happens.
 
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