What is active steering?

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I was looking at the settings used by the people with some of the best times round motegi and the vast majority of them had all aids off except abs 1 and active steering strong!
I've never used it and never really gave it much thought until now so just curious as to what it does, pros and cons?
Perhaps this question belongs in a more general sub forum than academy but seeing as it was academy that really brought active steering to my attention and I'm only considering using it in academy as I'm happy with my normal gt5 settings I thought I'd ask here.
 
i put it on strong too just because i see a lot of the top times have it but when driving i don't really feel anything, the car still oversteers if you get on the gas too early
 
The only time I ever remember using it was on the GT5 NASCAR special event because it was required. It really slowed me down, and made the car jerk alort when turning. It kicks in when turning. It's supposed to keep the car stable while turning, but I think spinning the tires before actually turning negates it.

Said turning way too many times. :lol:
 
I tried it, heck, I tried all of the assists in some capacity, but I wasn't able to beat the gold time until I turned all of them off. I'm certainly not the best driver or most experienced (GT5 is my first game of the series), but I have no idea how these guys were getting record times with any assists on.
 
It is suppposed to be a challenge based on real world, that claims to have discovered people with skills to go on to be real pilots, on a game that claims to be the real driving simulator, and the final round has "Active Steering"? This is just nonsense.
 
RodrigoDLL
It is suppposed to be a challenge based on real world, that claims to have discovered people with skills to go on to be real pilots, on a game that claims to be the real driving simulator, and the final round has "Active Steering"? This is just nonsense.
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They could force it off...turn ABS off...turn TCS 10 on...they can do whatever you'd like, but the cookie is still going to crumble the same way. Everyone will get equally slower/faster more or less given the same aids. So who cares? Use the tools given to you to advance to the next round, racing is all about getting absolutely everything you can out of given rules and a lot of times pushing the boundaries of the rules without breaking them, it happens every day, even in non-professional motorsports like autox. Any one NOT using everything at their disposal to set the fastest lap is doing it wrong. Also, using these aids has nothing to do with how one will perform in real life.
 
Active steering just gives you less oversteer/more understeer, if you have a controller I dont think it will help, if you have a steering wheel it definitely will 👍
 
Spurgy 777
Active steering just gives you less oversteer/more understeer.
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I was under the impression that active steering 'mediates' your steering input, taking out the 'edges' and smoothing it out.

This should be true for both wheel and DS3.
 
I don't know exactly what it does, but that's the overall result I feel. And I've found that when im using a ds3 with active steering, no matter what car im in it understeers too much, which is why I don't think it will help with a controller, but I havent tried it on 8-5, just assumed it would be the same. :)
 
TRC Scooty
They could force it off...turn ABS off...turn TCS 10 on...they can do whatever you'd like, but the cookie is still going to crumble the same way. Everyone will get equally slower/faster more or less given the same aids. So who cares? Use the tools given to you to advance to the next round, racing is all about getting absolutely everything you can out of given rules and a lot of times pushing the boundaries of the rules without breaking them, it happens every day, even in non-professional motorsports like autox. Any one NOT using everything at their disposal to set the fastest lap is doing it wrong. Also, using these aids has nothing to do with how one will perform in real life.
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Excellent points. I'm glad someone said it.
 
TRC Scooty
They could force it off...turn ABS off...turn TCS 10 on...they can do whatever you'd like, but the cookie is still going to crumble the same way. Everyone will get equally slower/faster more or less given the same aids. So who cares? Use the tools given to you to advance to the next round, racing is all about getting absolutely everything you can out of given rules and a lot of times pushing the boundaries of the rules without breaking them, it happens every day, even in non-professional motorsports like autox. Any one NOT using everything at their disposal to set the fastest lap is doing it wrong. Also, using these aids has nothing to do with how one will perform in real life.
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Yup 👍
 
TRC Scooty
They could force it off...turn ABS off...turn TCS 10 on...they can do whatever you'd like, but the cookie is still going to crumble the same way. Everyone will get equally slower/faster more or less given the same aids. So who cares? Use the tools given to you to advance to the next round, racing is all about getting absolutely everything you can out of given rules and a lot of times pushing the boundaries of the rules without breaking them, it happens every day, even in non-professional motorsports like autox. Any one NOT using everything at their disposal to set the fastest lap is doing it wrong. Also, using these aids has nothing to do with how one will perform in real life.
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I dont know who said something like: a fast driver can blame a bad car for a bad result, but a real champion adjusts his driving. I am totally for it.

But why not automatic shift then? Seriously?! Just adapt to the rules given... The ****** assistance is called active steering! It is like having those tiny side wheels on kids bikes... I am not even on the competition, but it just seems wrong.
 
BTW turned it down to mild and relied on more throttle control and dropped to a 31.349. Next time I hotlap I'm going to turn it back off as relying on your right foot seems to be more efficient than the aid itself. For me at least.
 
I find it useful for preventing fishtailing on overpowered race cars, and maybe for certain particular licenses or events. No point on any car under 500 PP.
 
hondalicious
Noob question :s

Where do you change this active steering?
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go to DRIVING OPTIONS in the event menu for each event. You must change it each time you do a separate event. Setting choices are OFF, Mild, Strong, Army Strong...Just kidding on that last one.
 
I fail to see the advantage from my end. My times appear to be the same with or without. But i am no where near the top times, 32.5xx. Keep screwing up the last turn when i am running a quicker lap. Very frustrating.
 
awr117
I fail to see the advantage from my end. My times appear to be the same with or without. But i am no where near the top times, 32.5xx. Keep screwing up the last turn when i am running a quicker lap. Very frustrating.
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There is a debate among racers as to how to negotiate the last hairpin. Some say to come in wide and clip the curb in the middle. Others say to 1/4 and 3/4 the curb clips which creates two apexes. Which one works for you? I've had issues myself deciding on the most efficient one.
 
USARMYCOMBATVET
There is a debate among racers as to how to negotiate the last hairpin. Some say to come in wide and clip the curb in the middle. Others say to 1/4 and 3/4 the curb clips which creates two apexes. Which one works for you? I've had issues myself deciding on the most efficient one.
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Coming in wide and clip the inside curb just past the middle portion has been my goal. Gives me nice exit speed. Problem is, i tend to brake a hair too late at times.
 
awr117
Coming in wide and clip the inside curb just past the middle portion has been my goal. Gives me nice exit speed. Problem is, i tend to brake a hair too late at times.
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I'm +.780 (gold) and I can't seem to get my braking points, apex, or track out on the last hairpin. I too seem to be braking late. Does anyone have a good braking point(terrain association, landmark) they'd like to share? Que the smart remarks...
 
USARMYCOMBATVET
I'm +.780 (gold) and I can't seem to get my braking points, apex, or track out on the last hairpin. I too seem to be braking late. Does anyone have a good braking point(terrain association, landmark) they'd like to share? Que the smart remarks...
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There are markers on the left fence. I try to brake a hair before the last marker.
 
USARMYCOMBATVET
Is it 50m? I've seen them. I just don't know which one to stop at. I feel like a kid in a candy store...Thanks!
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Believe so, trial and error. Use the markers where available. It really helps nailing down your braking points and an easy way to shave some time.
 
USARMYCOMBATVET
There is a debate among racers as to how to negotiate the last hairpin. Some say to come in wide and clip the curb in the middle. Others say to 1/4 and 3/4 the curb clips which creates two apexes. Which one works for you? I've had issues myself deciding on the most efficient one.
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As a general rule, since the run to the finish-line is shorter than the penultimate straight, you get more laptime by coming in just a bit too fast and "screwing up" a little your exit. Just make sure you do the opposite when starting your lap (get a good last turn exit to improve your straight speed).
 
For the second to last corner you should be able to slide the back end when you lift off the brake, works on a wheel at least, not sure what you use?
 
Spurgy 777
For the second to last corner you should be able to slide the back end when you lift off the brake, works on a wheel at least, not sure what you use?
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RodrigoDLL
As a general rule, since the run to the finish-line is shorter than the penultimate straight, you get more laptime by coming in just a bit too fast and "screwing up" a little your exit. Just make sure you do the opposite when starting your lap (get a good last turn exit to improve your straight speed).
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Spurgy777, If you were talking to me, I use a G27. Thanks all for the advice. I really do appreciate it. 👍
 
I'm on a 1:32.047 at the moment, active steering seemed to stop the car from breaking away as unexpectedly(using a DFGT). I have been through the penultimate corner faster than the leader so I just need to apply that to the rest of the track and then I should be near the top(i was 1st overall in round 6). I just need to rest a bit as I am very tired and can't concentrate on putting a fast lap together.
 
As I looked through the 8 people in front of me in my region at the time, I saw that 7 were using Active Steering, so I gave it a go.

I admit it made the car a lot more stable on both entry and exit, but it also made it more difficult for me to turn in the car. For the driving style necessary without it, this is totally against intuition.

So, not only did I not go any faster, as I was stepping on the accelerator earlier and earlier, when the back-end finally did start to wander and I tried to compensate with steering input (opposite lock), the wheel would transfer something like hitting something and the car would snap rather violently, as if the correctional input from the Active Steering could not cope with my correcting the slide. I ended up several times off the track because of this.

I don't doubt that, if you are willing to spend the time to get used to it, you probably can go at the same speed or even faster than without it, but for me you also give up some predictability with it. For me the bottom line is - I wouldn't want to drive with it 'on', if I had the choice. At least then I know perfectly well why I'm going off track.
 
snowgt
As I looked through the 8 people in front of me in my region at the time, I saw that 7 were using Active Steering, so I gave it a go.

I admit it made the car a lot more stable on both entry and exit, but it also made it more difficult for me to turn in the car. For the driving style necessary without it, this is totally against intuition.

So, not only did I not go any faster, as I was stepping on the accelerator earlier and earlier, when the back-end finally did start to wander and I tried to compensate with steering input (opposite lock), the wheel would transfer something like hitting something and the car would snap rather violently, as if the correctional input from the Active Steering could not cope with my correcting the slide. I ended up several times off the track because of this.

I don't doubt that, if you are willing to spend the time to get used to it, you probably can go at the same speed or even faster than without it, but for me you also give up some predictability with it. For me the bottom line is - I wouldn't want to drive with it 'on', if I had the choice. At least then I know perfectly well why I'm going off track.
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I'm in sort of the same situation as you. Ran a couple of laps with active steering on strong and improved my time. I then turned it off, not really changing my driving style and I ran almost the same time as when I had it turned on and it was easier to correct it when it started sliding.
I think that it's partially in your head when using those assists.
That being said, I'm not even close to getting to the nationals so it could just be me :p
 

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