What PC racing sims rival GT / FM with regards graphics?

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I've enjoyed GT / FM a lot over the years and I'm now about to take the plunge to get into PC racing sims. I'm planning on buying a powerful PC and all.

I know Project CARS and Assetto Corsa have got great graphics but they're not properly playable yet.

My question is: what other PC sims have got graphics as good as GT and FM?

Personally, I'm not into playing online so, for example, iRacing is not a solution for me.

Is rfactor2 at the level of GT5? Raceroom Racing Experience? Simraceway?

I've watched YouTube vids to try and see what the graphics are like but it's not that easy to tell.

Your opinions will be much appreciated.
 
Rfactor 2 can be, but depends how you set it up and what content, some of the user made content rivals or surpasses GT but maybe not so much FM5, some of the official content though doesn't look so good. Simraceway is really really dated graphically, RaceRoom looks pretty good.

Personally i think GT5 looks pretty dated when compared to RaceRoom and Rfactor 2, GT5 has has some pretty horrid low textures resolutions and up close to the screen it's quite funny how bad it looks, it blends well at a distance though, Rfactor 2 doesn't share that problem but the cars are not as detailed or carefully crafted as in GT5.
 
Need for Speed 2 modded looks very good but not sure its worth your time or might be a little complicated for someone new.

PC sims have been about physics and options for many years. Graphics have not been top of the list for tiny teams on a very low budget
 
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If you want to get into PC sims, it is important to get out of the mode of thinking about graphics first. It changes your mindset once you experience your first race online. when you get in that zone and race, you don't even notice the graphics and mostly don't see the graphics other than the track and your braking/track out points and competitors and the track itself. The rest is fluff that fades into nothing once you really get on it.

-rF2 is not the prettiest girl at the dance, but she does dance better than all the rest. In a race, there's no other sim that is close to rF2. It has weather, the dynamic racing line and rubbering in of the track, marbles offline, flatspotting, tire wear- in a race there's nothing even close to how rF2 simulates all the major things going on with your car and the track. Some mods and tracks look spectacular but not even close to the Codemasters F1 series. Some tracks and mods are horrible, you really need to curate your own content. the game is very moddable and there are cars and tracks being released for it at a pretty steady rate now. AI is spotty- some mods are good, some bad. You need to train cars and that is a PITA. Online is fantastic. I have raced wheel-to-wheel (literally) with no lag and enjoyed very close racing. No other sim out there I have tried has had such good multiplayer online prediction code, low latency and lag. You can set up your own server with a dedicated client, choose your own tracks and cars, ISI normally has official servers (they have been down in the latest build) to race on if you want a pubby. Lots of leagues are springing up too.

-the Codemasters F1 series does not simulate the driving of a race car as well, but overall with the weather, the organization of the race weekend, the limited tires etc it simulates the overall experience of racing better than any other game out there. If you turn off the assists, use the most real rules and turn on fuel, tire management and all that, you have a complete sim. But the driving will always be lacking in realism. The F1 games look awesome and have all the latest bells and whistles to make you ohh and ahh but you won't see any of it once you race. Really race. AI is great, Online blows goats. It is truly terrible.

-Assetto Corsa is probably the prettiest girl at this dance. You can hotlap in the game and race against AI. I have heard the AI is pretty good. The game is moddable but there are very few mods right now (they are coming). There's no weather (they have a time table for weather of about 1 year). There's no online though it is on the way and there's no way of knowing if it will be any good. The game was not built around the multiplayer it is being added to it and that worries me. No way of knowing if there will be a server client or what it'll feature. There is no dynamic realroad, I have heard that it will be implemented, I have heard that it will not be implemented. Fact is, right now there is no realroad at all (well, there is a static realroad that comes in, but it is graphical only and does no affect the grip level in any way). Look at videos, look at screenshots. Gorgeous game.

-pCARS. really this is a moot point. It is no longer available (they raised the kickstarter money they needed and closed off the game to anyone else until release) and won't be released until it is done. I have heard that the physics is more a semi-sim, but it is pretty and has weather. But, moot point.

-Older sims. I bunch SRW and RRRE in with the older sim racing games. They look OK, sound good, race well for a gmotor2 based game. they have no dynamic realroad, no weather, not moddable, small and shrinking communities and in the end will turn out to be more expensive per mod than other sims. And as for other older sims, rF1, GTR2 and Race07 series etc all have existing online communities, they all look like 7 year old games race OK, have various implementations of static realroad and have decent online. They have huge mod databases. They are yesterday's news and fading, they won't stick around forever but can be fun today. If you are looking for pretty, SRW looks pretty good. RRRE sounds great and looks pretty good.
 
If you want to get into PC sims, it is important to get out of the mode of thinking about graphics first. It changes your mindset once you experience your first race online. when you get in that zone and race, you don't even notice the graphics and mostly don't see the graphics other than the track and your braking/track out points and competitors and the track itself. The rest is fluff that fades into nothing once you really get on it.

-rF2 is not the prettiest girl at the dance, but she does dance better than all the rest. In a race, there's no other sim that is close to rF2. It has weather, the dynamic racing line and rubbering in of the track, marbles offline, flatspotting, tire wear- in a race there's nothing even close to how rF2 simulates all the major things going on with your car and the track. Some mods and tracks look spectacular but not even close to the Codemasters F1 series. Some tracks and mods are horrible, you really need to curate your own content. the game is very moddable and there are cars and tracks being released for it at a pretty steady rate now. AI is spotty- some mods are good, some bad. You need to train cars and that is a PITA. Online is fantastic. I have raced wheel-to-wheel (literally) with no lag and enjoyed very close racing. No other sim out there I have tried has had such good multiplayer online prediction code, low latency and lag. You can set up your own server with a dedicated client, choose your own tracks and cars, ISI normally has official servers (they have been down in the latest build) to race on if you want a pubby. Lots of leagues are springing up too.

I'd have to disagree with this. While it is very good the low speed physics are horrible, and its probably because there version of a green track is like ice. While i agree it should be slippery, but as it is no now is way off. Don't get me wrong its very fun to race anyways. And as far as online its a mess in my opinion unless you enjoy racing with 3 other people if you actually have the mod they are running.

I personally think AC is the best out right now, but to each there own. As long as you enjoy it is all that matters.

Every game you listed though i'd choose over a console sim any day and as you said graphics are an after thought if the driving model is great.
 
My personnal favorite and voted best PC Racing Sim by PC World is iRacing. Trust me iRacing is by far the best sim and closest thing to reality physics wise. Every track and car is Laser Scanned (No other SIM is like this) and looks really good actually. Surprised no one mentioned it yet.

Nevermind then. Didn't read the Op thoroughly. Sorry about that.
 
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My personnal favorite and voted best PC Racing Sim by PC World is iRacing. Trust me iRacing is by far the best sim and closest thing to reality physics wise. Every track and car is Laser Scanned (No other SIM is like this) and looks really good actually. Surprised no one mentioned it yet.

The new tire model is pretty good. It still has a way to go though. Maybe i'm just being an AC fanboy, but nothing compares in my opinion, and there stuff is laser scanned also. Pretty impressive for a 7 man team.
 
My personnal favorite and voted best PC Racing Sim by PC World is iRacing. Trust me iRacing is by far the best sim and closest thing to reality physics wise. Every track and car is Laser Scanned (No other SIM is like this) and looks really good actually. Surprised no one mentioned it yet.
The OP said they were not interested in racing online and didn't want iracing.

If it wasn't for that I would have mentioned iracing. Out of all the racing games I've played it's the best for actual racing and I think looks much better than either forza or GT. Forza has always looked cartoonish to me even the new one. When GT stopped giving every car a cockpit View I stopped looking at it as any form of a sim and it died to me.

It sounds like AC would be the best option for the OP. I haven't tried it. I want to but I'm only into racing online and iracing has that pretty much perfect.
 
When GT stopped giving every car a cockpit View I stopped looking at it as any form of a sim and it died to me.

By this logic only GT5P was a sim... Just saying!

Right now, the very best graphics with a competent simulation underneath are found in Assetto Corsa and Project CARS, but as the OP rightly pointed out neither of them are ready yet. Assetto Corsa is at least purchasable, though, Project CARS is, as we all know, closed to new members which is both a shame and also a good thing; a shame that not everyone can try it now, but also good because when it finally is released people won't have to qualify every complaint with 'well, it's not finished yet'.

As for right now, I think iRacing is probably the best looking sim that has actually been released - last time I looked at it, though, it was still in beta - and after that there's games/sims that use ISI's engine (which all look similar and not up to GT/Forza's standards, this includes rFactor 2) then a load of games like Grid 2, Shift, Shift 2, Dirt 3, Test Drive Unlimited 2, Need For Speed whatever and F1 201x.

There are other outlying sims that people often forget, however; Kunos' NetKar Pro (doesn't look great) and Ferrari Virtual Academy (looks pretty good, very close to GT6 but I don't think the scenery is quite as good), X Motor Racing (nope), Live For Speed (development stalled, doesn't look great anyway), Rigs of Rods (nope), Next Car Game (looks amazing but isn't quite the same sort of sim, if you can call it a sim) and BeamNG.drive (I think it looks pretty good, if a bit basic). Neither of the latter two are released yet either.
 
Personally, I'm not into playing online so, for example, iRacing is not a solution for me.
Most PC sims are all about online, unfortunately. As far as I'm aware, the only latest-and-greatest-with-pretty-graphics PC sim that intends to offer a robust singleplayer experience (like GT/Forza) will be Project CARS.
 
While far from complete, as is pCARS and AC, RaceRoom is free (limited content) and making some very good progress. I have been racing the KW Competition (134 Judd V8 on Bathhurst) and the sounds and sense of speed are sick! Feels great with my TM TX wheel and graphically runs very well on even one of my HD7850 cards. It's free, give it a shot.
 
Most PC sims are all about online, unfortunately. As far as I'm aware, the only latest-and-greatest-with-pretty-graphics PC sim that intends to offer a robust singleplayer experience (like GT/Forza) will be Project CARS.

Why are you leaving Assetto Corsa out? It's gonna be all that and more!
 
I don't know anything about a career mode in Assetto Corsa. SillyBillyP said he wasn't interested in playing online, and the singleplayer experience is typically lacking in PC sims. Project CARS will at least offer a more console-sim-like experience.
 
I've been doing some mixed tier racing today on Assetto Corsa and all I can say is holy balls, that level of fun should be illegal.

Update 0.8 just came out, I haven't raced with it yet but I've watched a couple of my replays from earlier on the new patch and the graphics are stunning. Beforehand, I thought Pcars won hands down in terms of graphics, but AC is right up there with it now.

Another graphically good looking game is F1 2013, particularly in the rain, it's also pretty easy going on your GPU and CPU.

My PC is somewhat outdated; CPU is an i7 920 currently clocked at 3.2Ghz, GPU is an HD7850 clocked at 1100 core/5450 memory. For reference, F1 2013 averages 77fps with all settings on ultra at 1080p with max anti-aliasing, whereas on AC I average 52fps at 1080p with max anti-aliasing with low-medium settings. Sometimes I get a notification that my CPU is operating at over 95% capacity :nervous: A replay with 20+ cars kicking up smoke or dirt can drop me down to 27fps.

I would highly recommend both games, F1 2013 obviously has a decent enough offline mode, and with AC you pick any cars you want to be in a race with some of the best sounds and physics out there, with a career mode to come later.

I'll be sure to buy Pcars when it releases. For games like AC and Pcars, I would recommend having a somewhat beefy rig to get the most out of them, the highest settings are way more demanding.
 
For me Pcars has better graphics but AC is better in the sound department at the current state of both games. The differences are small since they are both next generation with top quality!
 
If you want a good cheap game then maybe GTR2? Graphically still good but if youre looking for offline only then a great game. Great physics and some of the best races Ive had offline. The game is a bit old (2006) so as I said its pretty cheap, and probably any pc can run it now, but dont let its age fool you.
 
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