What would you do if you bought North Wilkesboro?

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OK, so if you have been chosen the new owner of North Wilkesboro Speedway, what would you do with it? If I were chosen, there are my would be plans for the speedway:

-Put a huge extensive upgrade to make it suitable for Camping World Truck, Nationwide, and/or Sprint Cup events.
-Add SAFER barriers, build new garages, repave the entire track, rebuild grandstands and flag stand, replace the 76 logo with a Sunoco one, repaint walls, and possibly put suites in the stands.
-Make the sponsor logos up to date.
 
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StockCarRacer
-Put a huge extensive upgrade to make it suitable for Camping World Truck, Nationwide, and/or Sprint Cup events.
-Add SAFER barriers, build new garages, repave the entire track, rebuild grandstands and flag stand, replace the 76 logo with a Sunoco one, repaint walls, and possibly put suites in the stands.
-Make the sponsor logos up to date.
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I would do that, I would love to see racing back there, I am looking forward to seeing the trucks race again at the rock, and maybe in Nwide might be going there as well next year
 
nascar49
I would do that, I would love to see racing back there, I am looking forward to seeing the trucks race again at the rock, and maybe in Nwide might be going there as well next year
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But aren't all ovals basically the same? What is different about this track, there
is probably another track the same length and shape.
 
Jimlaad43
But aren't all ovals basically the same? What is different about this track, there
is probably another track the same length and shape.
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Yes basically they are the same, they have a similar shape and similarish length, but that doesn't mean they handle and feel the same, or will produce identical racing. Kind of like a tomato and an apple are basically the same. Also, don't forget, America is a big place.. I'm sure paying spectators won't mind it being similar if it saves them 500 miles on their trip to a 'local' circuit.

I think the biggest problem though would be the amount of money that would have to be spent, and the extent of the updates would beg the question, why not start from scratch somewhere else? There are two other ovals in that state, does it really need a third? History and tradition is the motivation I'd guess.
 
nascar49
I would do that, I would love to see racing back there, I am looking forward to seeing the trucks race again at the rock, and maybe in Nwide might be going there as well next year
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Agreed. The track is outdated and needs to be modernized in order to keep up with the times.
 
I honestly couldn't ever see NASCAR coming back to North Wilksboro. It's like a high school football stadium trying to entice an NFL team. There would be far too much work to do to the track itself, infrastructure, and surrounding area. And with three other NASCAR ovals within 100 miles of North Wilksburo, there isn't really any reason besides nostalgia for a NASCAR race to return there.

Your money would be much better suited trying bringing in the lower feeder and regional series'. Or you could build an infield course and open the track to track days. Or build a dragstrip and attract dragracing series'.
 
Jimlaad43
But aren't all ovals basically the same? What is different about this track, there
is probably another track the same length and shape.
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The only things oval race tracks have in common is they all have four corners, that's it. You have small oval short tracks that are under a half mile in length all way up to 2.66 mile Talladega super speedway.

Then you have different banking degree's , from flat tracks that have around six degree banking up to the low thirty degree banking .

Then there is the different types of track surface, asphalt to concrete, so while every oval may seem them same, and yes a lot of the 1.5 mile tracks in the U.S. are pretty much the same, ovals tracks are different from one another.

We will never see the cup cars race there again, maybe , and I mean maybe if the track is ever brought up to today's standards , then maybe we might see some feeder series race's there. NASCAR fans miss N. Wilkesboro and they do want the track back.
 
demolish it all and build a factory that manufactures steering racks that can steer right as well as left............................ok im sorry!!!!!!!!!!! LoL.

i actually enjoy nascar though, so on a serious note when topgear(uk) went there last year in the supercar episode (sls, 458, 911,) the track looked in surprisingly good order considering the length of time its been unused obviously it looked a bit scruffy in places. but i think it would just need a major renovation rather than a complete new build. obviously the main attention would be the safety barriers, infield complex and seating.

but i agree with astrosdude it would take a lot of effort and money to not only redevelop the track but also the surrounding area and infrastructure.
 
Jimlaad43
But aren't all ovals basically the same? What is different about this track, there
is probably another track the same length and shape.
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NO!!! there are 3 ovals within 2hrs from where I live, every one is totally different, it's not just length and shape that characterizes a track,

one is 3/8ths, little banking with an arched frontstretch, and is so full of potholes and bumps, has a water drainage issue, and parts of the frontstretch are recently pave which ironically creates more bumps, with no walls

Another is 1/4 mile, moderate banking including arched backstretch and very smooth, completely walled

The third one's moderately banked and turn 1 rises to the apex to meet turn 2 which lowers to meet the arched backstretch with a pothole in the racin groove in turn 2 and turn 3 is fairly standard and the wall meets you really fast out of turn 4

My point is that they are all different, from the stands it may look that way because you can't see the track well from the stands but when you are on it, you have to adapt or be last.

On topic, that's awesome they are bringing back the track (or did i misread that part?). I remember that being one of my favorites in nascar dirt to daytona, (being that i sadly don't live in a state that has or is bordered by a state with a nascar track)

As far as what I'd do with it, I don't know what kind of condition it's in to say anything about it
 
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nascar49
The only things oval race tracks have in common is they all have four corners
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NO THEY DONT
This one has two corners, not four. There is one 180 degree corner, straight and then another 180 degree corner before the start straight.
Daytona, for example has three corners.
 
Jimlaad43
NO THEY DONT
This one has two corners, not four. There is one 180 degree corner, straight and then another 180 degree corner before the start straight.
Daytona, for example has three corners.
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Umm, actually Daytona has 4 corners.
 
And Pocono has 3!
Rocket science!

Not much could be done. Martinsville and Bristol are both popular short tracks on the NASCAR circuit. This could be done to attract ALMS or Rolex, perhaps.
I couldn't imagine seeing a dragstrip in here, it seems too tough to fit in the area given. I'd renovate the Southeast grandstand and enough of the frontstrech to include a pressbox and some small suites. The track and infield facilities would need repaving and renovating, respectively. I could also imagine it with higher banking...up it to about 20 degrees and it'd be unique for a short track.
Across the highway, land would be used for camping. This could be a kart track with multiple configurations across the highway also.

However, there should be a thread for Rockingham (yes, the US one) instead of this. With trucks returning possibly in 2013, they could want more.
 
Jimlaad43
NO THEY DONT
This one has two corners, not four. There is one 180 degree corner, straight and then another 180 degree corner before the start straight.
Daytona, for example has three corners.
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Two corners, 4 turns, 1&3 are entry to apex, 2&4 are apex to exit
 
MatskiMonk
Umm, actually Daytona has 4 corners.
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NO.
Red is the actual corners and blue uses the apex to exit format.
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Jimlaad43
NO.
Red is the actual corners and blue uses the apex to exit format.
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Technically speaking you are right but it's considered as a tri-oval but "corner1" in your drawing is considered as the frontstretch, it's not a corner that affects the car very much at all, it's like moving out to pass a car, there's very little load on the springs. The turns are based off of areas that affect the car and can be adjusted to the driver's technique.

Edit: isn't this thread on north wilkesboro and it's condition, not daytona and it's shape?
 
Roush_fan_99
NO!!! there are 3 ovals within 2hrs from where I live, every one is totally different, it's not just length and shape that characterizes a track,

one is 3/8ths, little banking with an arched frontstretch, and is so full of potholes and bumps, has a water drainage issue, and parts of the frontstretch are recently pave which ironically creates more bumps, with no walls

Another is 1/4 mile, moderate banking including arched backstretch and very smooth, completely walled

The third one's moderately banked and turn 1 rises to the apex to meet turn 2 which lowers to meet the arched backstretch with a pothole in the racin groove in turn 2 and turn 3 is fairly standard and the wall meets you really fast out of turn 4

My point is that they are all different, from the stands it may look that way because you can't see the track well from the stands but when you are on it, you have to adapt or be last.

On topic, that's awesome they are bringing back the track (or did i misread that part?). I remember that being one of my favorites in nascar dirt to daytona, (being that i sadly don't live in a state that has or is bordered by a state with a nascar track)

As far as what I'd do with it, I don't know what kind of condition it's in to say anything about it
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I played NASCAR: Dirt to Daytona too :D
 
I still have my BIG PS2 and all of my games (mostly racing) but haven't played it since i got my ps3, but there were a lot of great tracks in that game that just seemed to have mysteriously disappeared, but I don't remember their names.
 
Roush_fan_99
I still have my BIG PS2 and all of my games (mostly racing) but haven't played it since i got my ps3, but there were a lot of great tracks in that game that just seemed to have mysteriously disappeared, but I don't remember their names.
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They should make a remake of it for PS3, or at least put it on the PS Store :( it's not there, and the newer PS3's aren't backwards compatible :(
 
Cowboys965
They should make a remake of it for PS3, or at least put it on the PS Store :( it's not there, and the newer PS3's aren't backwards compatible :(
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they totally should!👍👍

most ps3's aren't, only the 80gig ones i have a 160gig big one and i downloaded the ps2 deal from the ps store and it still didnt work
 
astrosdude91
I honestly couldn't ever see NASCAR coming back to North Wilksboro. It's like a high school football stadium trying to entice an NFL team. There would be far too much work to do to the track itself, infrastructure, and surrounding area. And with three other NASCAR ovals within 100 miles of North Wilksburo, there isn't really any reason besides nostalgia for a NASCAR race to return there.

Your money would be much better suited trying bringing in the lower feeder and regional series'. Or you could build an infield course and open the track to track days. Or build a dragstrip and attract dragracing series'.
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Come on, yes it can be done. Look all you have to do is have the money and rebuild.
 
StockCarRacer
Come on, yes it can be done. Look all you have to do is have the money and rebuild.
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This thread would be better had it been about Rockingham (US)... Personally, I liked the racing there more and it's been out of use for a much smaller amount of time.
 
Jimlaad43
But aren't all ovals basically the same? What is different about this track, there
is probably another track the same length and shape.
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The track itself may be the same as a track, say, 500 miles away, but the variable weather climates would in essence make for two totally different tracks.

@taggles: Rockingham is actually hosting a NASCAR truck race next year.:)
 

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