What's the best way to get the most realistic driving experience?

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This goes for both offline and online mode. But I was curious if anyone actually races/drive with regular everyday vehicles, like street cars and not actual race cars or exotics online? It seems difficult for me to find anyone online that wants to race or cruise with regular street cars, such as a nissan 370z or an acura, etc? All I see mainly are red bulls x1's, exotics, gt cars, etc. but where are the stock cars?

I would love to hop online and race/cruise around with a bunch of people in regular stock cars, and if modified, are very slightly upgraded, and not maxed out. Using regular everyday tires such as comfort or sports, not racing softs.

My next question is, to get an authentic driving experience as if you would do in real life in a regular car, what is the best settings, setup, parts, etc to get for your car? I was under the impression that buying a new car and only getting sports tires maybe?
 
I host Clean & Relaxed shuffle races almost nightly around 10-1030p CST US. You're welcome to join.
 
FIRST QUESTION: I feel the same. It just seems that stock car races are almost extinct! Though, if you are interested, I have a group for drivers that love driving clean, and fair racing. Currently we have a rally going on, though it might not interest you. But soon, we are having a MINI European Endurance Cup. The event is restricted to the Mini Cooper S Countryman. Completely stock Mini's (with the exception of oil change). PM me if you are interested!
SECOND QUESTION: For me, I usually think out what type of car style/tune I want. So if I want a racing-type car, I use high performance parts, like racing hard tires. :D I also use the interior view. But what I'm saying is that to just go with what you want.
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Anyone interested in street car racing should add me (Enzo_Guy on PSN, just cleaned out my friends list today too). I host a room 4 or more nights a week. 99% of our races involve street cars and we vary rules between races and days, nearly everyone who regularly races with me has 500+ cars so we are always trying to switch it up and use different cars. We'll do HP, PP, or host-defined sets of rules that vary from basement econoboxes on comfort tires to high-end supercars on both tarmac and dirt (some custom tracks too), our emphasis is mostly on variety and trying to race with cars you'd otherwise never race with online.

We're pretty much a bunch of people with ADHD haha! If I'm racing I don't want to use the same car twice!
 
digitalic
This goes for both offline and online mode. But I was curious if anyone actually races/drive with regular everyday vehicles, like street cars and not actual race cars or exotics online? It seems difficult for me to find anyone online that wants to race or cruise with regular street cars, such as a nissan 370z or an acura, etc? All I see mainly are red bulls x1's, exotics, gt cars, etc. but where are the stock cars?

I would love to hop online and race/cruise around with a bunch of people in regular stock cars, and if modified, are very slightly upgraded, and not maxed out. Using regular everyday tires such as comfort or sports, not racing softs.

My next question is, to get an authentic driving experience as if you would do in real life in a regular car, what is the best settings, setup, parts, etc to get for your car? I was under the impression that buying a new car and only getting sports tires maybe?
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Have you checked out S.N.A.I.L. Racing? They do stock car racing they have the restriction last time i looked it is set to no tuning... I like that because you are getting beat by driver skill not a tune... I once in a while you this setting when making cruise rooms...
I was also going to try this when making "reasonably priced car" events i do once in a while...
 
Awesome, no I haven't heard of SNAIL before but am interested. I really love driving stock street cars that you would see everyday in real life. To me it's more rewarding to get away from the typical super cars, exotics, that most people choose.

Great to see others on here who also feel the same way. I thought it was just me. I would love to add you guys and perhaps just hang out and cruise or take our cars out for a spin around various courses.
 
Offline: Don't tune your cars more than a few things like oil change, ECU, or something simple like that. For the love of god, don't use Racing Soft tires on street cars. Try using Comfort Softs as much as you can, and if you feel that the car is too much for these tire, check which tires come stock with it. Most likely they will be Sport Hards. On cars that you know that don't have ABS, turn it off; that will bring the realism to the maximum. Avoid using any other assists. Go to Arcade, select maximum difficulty and have fun.

Online: One word: SHUFFLE with clean racers. Friends preferably.
 
I like to race the same cars as you. Mostly mild street cars.

I search for "street 450-600 pp" rooms. There is always atleast one room available. I keep my cravings satisfied!
 
Agree with ^

500pp rooms with tire selection limited to Sport Hards are actually very abundant. Especially shuffle rooms.
 
check out the S.N.A.I.L. RACING group thread. stock same make racing with premium cars(mostly always street cars)
 
Sounds good Husky! I will definitely do that. I have been limiting my cars to either Comfort or Sports tire only now for a more realistic feel, and since I am a wheel user I turn all assists off and usually keep my ABS set at 1 with manual transmission.

@Chiochan where can I get more information regarding SNAIL racing group?

With that being said I am going to re-start my collection and purchase new cars and try to keep them close to stock as possible with out any extreme modifications with the exception of maybe racing suspension installed.
 
online competition forum to club and league. S.N.A.I.L. RACING should be up at the top of the list.
 
I have a wide variety of tunes ranging from the basic air filter ecu .. all the way to RM'd
or full tune... The most realistic would definitely include a wheel..but not absolutely necessary.. I like comfort hard tires for a fair amount of grip(easily controlled with proper throttle and brake usage) and stock/sport suspension.. I also like the pre tuned cars from Mine's, Amuse, etc., etc.
 
In response to your desire to race with unmodified cars on stock tyres... You might want to have a look at the Luxury Mixer event. Sports Hards - does mean some cars get an upgrade from Comfort Softs but they're the slower of the lot!

If you want to go for the old clunkers there's the Vintage Mixer. These are run on Comfort Softs.

Naturally the cars are not even, and you're assigned your car for the next race based upon your finishing position. The better you do in the race, the "slower/worse" your car is for the next. It's, dare I say it, more fun than Shuffling because at least there's already a level of disparity built into the list.

And for the Luxury version, there are only 2 cars on the list that aren't Premium. Yes you'll need to dip into the bag for some premiums, but not like cash is a problem in GT5 with remote racing.
 
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digitalic, I'm definitely one for racing stock or only lightly modified cars online and agree that it's hard to find others that want to race these cars. My PSN name is Jase_McMillan, add me as a friend and we'll try and tee up some racing together sometime.

As for your question about the authentic driving experience, I love to try and set my cars up as close to what they would be in real life as possible. Examples, I drive my F40 and Mclaren F1 with absolutely no assists because they have none in real life. My F40 has stage 3 body weight reduction applied to get it closer to it's actual weight. PD modelled an early perspex windowed car in the game but then got the weight wrong by spec'ing the weight of the late series cars. I have used the power limiter to make sure that every stock car I have produces no more power than it would in real life, and I drive cars like the R35 and the 458 Italia with Stability Control on most of the time as it simulates the technology (ATTESA system/ E-Diff ) that these cars use that makes them so fast and easy for anybody to drive. I also recommend using the tyres that the cars come with, in most cases it gives the most accurate experience, usually Comfort Softs or Sports Hards. You can then really test yourself against real world lap times by doing time attacks on the real world circuits. Go to fastestlaps.com if you want a good reference for the times that cars are really capable of on tracks like the Nurburgring, etc.
 
I found two shuffle races last night which were good, Clean racing, then someone ruined it and joined and started ramming :/, It was a full room of clean racers then you always get someone to ruin it all. Anyways I'm always looking for 500pp Clean races always fun :)
 
Easy. Whatever tires the car came with, use the tires one below it (came with sports hard, use comfort soft, etc.). Use heavy damage, weak slipstream, no aids or driving line , tire wear on, grip level in wet/grass set to real, and obviously use cockpit view. If you do all of this, GT5 is actually very realistic, it's quite amazing considering the physics were compromised to work well with controllers. It can actually hang with the pro sims on PC if you do this
 
That's the spirit Tom! If you want the most realistic experience playing GT5 Join PGTR click the link in my signature ;) this league is like no other around GTP I can assure you. 👍
 
TomBrady
Easy. Whatever tires the car came with, use the tires one below it (came with sports hard, use comfort soft, etc.). Use heavy damage, weak slipstream, no aids or driving line , tire wear on, grip level in wet/grass set to real, and obviously use cockpit view. If you do all of this, GT5 is actually very realistic, it's quite amazing considering the physics were compromised to work well with controllers. It can actually hang with the pro sims on PC if you do this
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I'd add ABS off is essential on every single car, that comfort softs work surprisingly well in all cars, and that GT5 can't compete against the very best current sims though it is a good effort with the proper settings.

I also concur on shuffle races with SRF off. That's the fastest way to find a decent room.
 
There is a bit of a contradiction here. Realistic racing usually features race cars. Road cars lack race track safety equipment and don't comply to race rules.

Your best bet for realistic "normal car" racing is to choose a PP level and then choose what upgrades are allowed, and then let any car that meets the criteria enter your race.

As far as vehicle realism goes, I don't really think tuning matters all that much. GT5 physics are good, but they still dart away from reality at times. Adding full race suspension won't make your car any less realistic. One thing that may matter is tires. GT uses fixed grip levels for each tire, and usually the stock tires that the game assigns to cars gives them too much lateral g (but they may "feel" correct). I tend to go with the tires that match a car's realistic lateral g. There is a topic that discusses how to match tires to cars at length.

My rule of thumb is:
CH - old cars or economy cars
CM - old sports cars or regular sedans
CS - sports cars and supercars

SH - sportscars with road legal slick tires
SM - same as above
SS - road car with full race slicks or low class race car

RH - GT/LMP car
RM - GT/LMP car
RS - Formula car
 
Exorcet
There is a bit of a contradiction here. Realistic racing usually features race cars. Road cars lack race track safety equipment and don't comply to race rules.

Your best bet for realistic "normal car" racing is to choose a PP level and then choose what upgrades are allowed, and then let any car that meets the criteria enter your race.

As far as vehicle realism goes, I don't really think tuning matters all that much. GT5 physics are good, but they still dart away from reality at times. Adding full race suspension won't make your car any less realistic. One thing that may matter is tires. GT uses fixed grip levels for each tire, and usually the stock tires that the game assigns to cars gives them too much lateral g (but they may "feel" correct). I tend to go with the tires that match a car's realistic lateral g. There is a topic that discusses how to match tires to cars at length.

My rule of thumb is:
CH - old cars or economy cars
CM - old sports cars or regular sedans
CS - sports cars and supercars

SH - sportscars with road legal slick tires
SM - same as above
SS - road car with full race slicks or low class race car

RH - GT/LMP car
RM - GT/LMP car
RS - Formula car
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I like your your tire guide and I use that logic somewhat with my tire guide however I take it deeper check it out and let me know what you think. Just click my link in my signature its the get a grip article.
 
Having a long wheelbase car such as the M5 and having Stock or less tires.
Lost of fun length drifts can be made, yet grip is still there for when you want to be fast around the circuit.
 
digitalic
To get an authentic driving experience as if you would do in real life in a regular car, what is the best settings, setup, parts, etc to get for your car? I was under the impression that buying a new car and only getting sports tires maybe?
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I suggest mild upgrades such as ECU chip, sports exhaust, sports filter, sports tires, close-ratio trans (not full custom), flywheel/clutch, etc... anything that can be *easily* bought in the real world for factory-produced street cars. A stage 1 lightweight would be OK too IMO.
 
digitalic
This goes for both offline and online mode. But I was curious if anyone actually races/drive with regular everyday vehicles, like street cars and not actual race cars or exotics online? It seems difficult for me to find anyone online that wants to race or cruise with regular street cars, such as a nissan 370z or an acura, etc? All I see mainly are red bulls x1's, exotics, gt cars, etc. but where are the stock cars?

I would love to hop online and race/cruise around with a bunch of people in regular stock cars, and if modified, are very slightly upgraded, and not maxed out. Using regular everyday tires such as comfort or sports, not racing softs.

My next question is, to get an authentic driving experience as if you would do in real life in a regular car, what is the best settings, setup, parts, etc to get for your car? I was under the impression that buying a new car and only getting sports tires maybe?
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Sounds like you should check out the game called Test Drive Unlimited 2. You can cruise anywhere you want in that game on 2 different islands with up to 7 other friends. By far the best "cruising" car game ever created. You can even go offroad cruising if you want.
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As for real driving experience in GT5, you will want to stick to premium cars only. Standard cars dont have a proper interior so it kinda kills the realism when you are looking through the windshield with black outlines.
 
CAMAROBOY69
Sounds like you should check out the game called Test Drive Unlimited 2. You can cruise anywhere you want in that game on 2 different islands with up to 7 other friends. By far the best "cruising" car game ever created. You can even go offroad cruising if you want.
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As for real driving experience in GT5, you will want to stick to premium cars only. Standard cars dont have a proper interior so it kinda kills the realism when you are looking through the windshield with black outlines.
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What about the people who don't use cockpit view? They can still experience realism in bumper cam. I still think the most realism is in cockpit view but I wont say you cannot experience realism in other views. I love bumper cam sometimes because it shows off the beautiful track more.
 
CAMAROBOY69
Sounds like you should check out the game called Test Drive Unlimited 2. You can cruise anywhere you want in that game on 2 different islands with up to 7 other friends. By far the best "cruising" car game ever created. You can even go offroad cruising if you want.
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As for real driving experience in GT5, you will want to stick to premium cars only. Standard cars dont have a proper interior so it kinda kills the realism when you are looking through the windshield with black outlines.
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If he wants an authentic driving experience, he'll stay far from TDU2. If he wants to cruise, he should try TDU1.
 

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