Wheel modifications, wiring diagrams and Repair Instructions ...

Discussion in 'Sim Racing Hardware' started by Werner Winkels, Oct 1, 2005.

  1. Werner Winkels

    Werner Winkels

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  2. Werner Winkels

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    Modified Momo Force (red) to use with GT4

    I replaced the Momo Force Mainboard to GT-Force Mainboard,
    the Wheel Potentiometer to 100K
    the Pedal Potentiometers to 50K

    Now the Momo Wheel work with all Playstation 2 Games , just like the GT-Force Wheel including GT4 :tup:

    I have attached a GT4 Replay (pal) driven with the modified Momo Force Wheel :tup:
     

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  3. Werner Winkels

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    Momo Force (red) Pedal-Unit modification to use with Driving Force Pro Wheel

    Please notice:
    The full thread of this modification, You can find :

    https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=44143


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    It works great with GT4 :)

    The worktime is only 30 min.
    Thereafter the Momo Pedal work with both Wheels :D



    I think you know this, but to be on the safe side i want to point up again :

    You must connect the new cable set parallel to the original.
    After the modification the Momo Pedal-Unit have 2 cable set's !!!

    ( One for use with the Momo Wheel, and one for use with the DFP Wheel )

    You must only to clamp the new cables in addition to the original Momo cables




    By the way,
    I think, the DFP-Pedal bug isnt only a fault of the DFP Pedal-Unit
    The GT4 / DFP calibration-method to contribute.

    This bug can only to correct, with a verry precise working Pedal-mechanism !


    The Momo Pedal is to all intents and purposes, one of the best pedals
    But if it has sign of wear , it isnt better than a other.


    The GT4 / DFP calibration to inspect permanent the maximal and minimal electric resistance of the connected Potentiometers.
    If the Potentiometer to give out a short resistance -values peek , the permanent-calibration to memorise this and change the center to a wrong position !


    The source can be:
    a damaged Potentiometer, that change the values by mechanical-shock

    a loosely Potentiometer mount

    a loosely cable joint ( transition resistance )

    ...



    laters
    Werner


    The circuit diagram of my Modification
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    Sorry for my horrible English
    If You have problems to understand , please send me a PM

    Thank You .


    Laters

    Werner

    By the Way,
    If you dont want so solder, You can to clamp the new cables inside the original cable-shoes and solder terminal lug of the Potentiometers :tup:
     

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  4. Werner Winkels

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    Driving Force Pro Pedal repair
     

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    Driving Force Pro Pedal repair 2
     

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    Driving Force Pro Pedal repair 3
     

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    Driving Force Pro Pedal repair 4
     

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    Driving Force Pro Pedal repair 5
     

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    Driving Force Pro Pedal repair 6

    Please Notice, the Pedals of the new Version of the Driving Force Pro, use other Potentiometers !

    Maybe the 6 cable shoes of the Potentiometers are to waggly !
     

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  10. rsmithdrift

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    I'm assuming you're going to put pics in these posts???
     
  11. NoQuarter

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    Werner...do you have any repair information concerning the double/triple upshift failure of the paddle shift switches?
     
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    Driving Force Pro Paddle-Shifter Bug-Fix

    Well, If the paddle shift-switches have a distance to the circuit board, the solder tacks of the shift-switches can be break.
     

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    I followed the GTWeb link that patclash supplied and carried out the fix.
    http://www.lecoyote.net/gtweb/forum/viewtopic.php?p=86861#86861

    It worked fine and now my DFP is back in business. :tup: :tup:

    Thanks Franconen and also patclash for the link. :tup:
     
  15. NoQuarter

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    Superb :tup:
     
  16. Patclash

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    this thread need a sticky :tup:
     
  17. Werner Winkels

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    The old Logitech GT Force Wheel / Pedal :

    The Wheel use 1 Pcs. Potentiometer 100K
    The Pedal use 2 Pcs. Potentiometer 50K
     

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  18. Patclash

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    up to :tup:
     
  19. Werner Winkels

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    thanks :)
     
  20. superwally

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    Had the shifter problem, fixed it. Just re-solderd the connections on the back of the buttons with a 15 volt soldering iron and some nice electronics solder. I think the continued bashing breaks the connection inside, causing missed (no connection) or multiple (intermittent connection) shifts. I hit all four spots on each side, although I was only having the problem on upshift.

    I'm a novice when it comes to soldering circuits, and don't exactly have the steadiest hands in the world. If I can pull it off, anyone can. Thanks for the links and info everyone.
     
  21. vivid

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    Pic2 was the one I was after, but its corrupt.

    I am trying to identify the chip on an older Logitech GT Wheel as in "Werner Winkels" post, being on the power side of the 'Main Board'

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    Can anyone tell me what is written on the chip? Mine has a crater in it. :ouch:

    Thanks in advance,

    David.
     

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  22. Borna

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    can you please tell me colors of wires that go to pins of potentiometer(DFP wheel
     
  23. Werner Winkels

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    hi,

    photos updated now.

    laters
    werner


    by the way, the DFP use a pulser (no pot in the Wheel)
     

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  24. Falconair

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    Going to give my DFP a second life (in GTR evo though) The wheel has a clanky feel because of leeway between the cog wheels. I already partly fixed this. if anyone's interested I can post pics. The wheel feels like a million bucks again. Partly because of the engine vibration in the wheel.
     
  25. thomasr

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    Hi there

    I bought a red momo wheel second hand and it was working fine in GT 5 but then a loose connection started playing havoc.

    I had to pull it all apart, but because of the plastic casing it is very hard to work out which wire goes where on the new 25 pin connector I bought!

    can anyone PLEASE give me the complete wiring of this connector?
    http://img199.imageshack.us/content.php?page=done&l=img199/1033/momowiring.jpg
     
  26. Werner Winkels

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    Hi Thomasr

    Sorry my english isnt good
    but maybe this link can Help You :
    http://tytlandsvik.no/momo/

    Check the MOMO Force.pdf

    laters
    werner
     
  27. MadDogRhody

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    I have the Driving Force GT wheel.
    My buddy just gave me his new G27 Pedals. (he is using ECCI Pedals)

    Is there a way to wire the G27 Pedals to My Logitec Driving Force GT??


    Thanks in advance for any light shed on this.


    MadDogRhody

    Rhody Racing
     
  28. inigohe

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    Best regards...Have you the schematics of the Logitech Momo black main board?
    Thx, nice to meet you mate.
    Iñigo
     
  29. coper

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    Hello! help! Did you find the chip information? I had the same problem. My wheel is Logitech wingman formula force gp