Wheel vs Dualshock

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Well, I've had my Logitech wheel ever since I got the game but I've never had a good location to use it. The stupid knee grip thing is worthless and I didn't have a table I could easily put in front of the TV.

Now, however, I've rearranged a few things. WOW! This is so much fun. I'm still 8 to 10 seconds slower on nearly every course with the wheel but it's SO MUCH more fun. Eventually I assume I'll get better, but right now it's just fun to fight the wheel. I need to get a more comfortable arrangement and everything will start coming together ... I assume.

Uh, just thought I'd mention. (:
 
Ya, I used mine for a long time, but it got too annoying, so I'm back to the DS.
 
Originally posted by LoudMusic
Now, however, I've rearranged a few things. WOW! This is so much fun. I'm still 8 to 10 seconds slower on nearly every course with the wheel but it's SO MUCH more fun. Eventually I assume I'll get better, but right now it's just fun to fight the wheel. I need to get a more comfortable arrangement and everything will start coming together ... I assume.

Uh, just thought I'd mention. (:
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Loud - I told you all this stuff nearly two years ago!! :lol:

It really does provide another dimension to the driving experience, though - the cars actually feel different - you can tell the difference between an NSX, a GT-R and a Supra by how they feel on the kerbing and how the steering loads up. Cars in standard setting particularly become much more fun to drive - the Miata comes to mind immediately. It's a joy with the GT-Force.

Your speed will come back - you just need to keep working at it.

:cheers:
 
mkay....
<-- doesnt have a wheel...
 
Originally posted by ving
mkay....
<-- doesnt have a wheel...
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If you've got the money laying around you should get one. It's lots of fun! (:
 
yeah but where do i put it?
on my head? :p
 
Well, you find some surface like a desk or such and it has clamps to attach with. The peddals go on the floor and then you sit in a chair. Kind of simple.
 
Originally posted by vat_man
Loud - I told you all this stuff nearly two years ago!! :lol:

It really does provide another dimension to the driving experience, though - the cars actually feel different - you can tell the difference between an NSX, a GT-R and a Supra by how they feel on the kerbing and how the steering loads up. Cars in standard setting particularly become much more fun to drive - the Miata comes to mind immediately. It's a joy with the GT-Force.

Your speed will come back - you just need to keep working at it.

:cheers:
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I think it's time to go through the whole game again. Maybe that'll make me good with the wheel.

There are a couple oddities I've found. Running with a couple different stock cars the wheel will begin to jerk on straights. No idea why it does this. And in the 787B on the big loop it would jitter and jerk on the banks occationally. That doesn't make sense to me either.

Other than that, it's good fun. I'll probably start the whole thing over next week.
 
Originally posted by LoudMusic
I think it's time to go through the whole game again. Maybe that'll make me good with the wheel.

There are a couple oddities I've found. Running with a couple different stock cars the wheel will begin to jerk on straights. No idea why it does this. And in the 787B on the big loop it would jitter and jerk on the banks occationally. That doesn't make sense to me either.

Other than that, it's good fun. I'll probably start the whole thing over next week.
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Yeah - you actually need to steer down the straights, if there's any lock on the wheel at all, it seems as if it builds up and the car will try to turn slightly, giving feedback on the wheel - you might want to check your calibration.

If cars are set-up very stiffly they can chatter through the wheel while cornering.
 
To add a little more fuel to the fire, I just purchased a Saitek PX5000 which feels EXTREMELY accurate. Still breaking it in though, so the final verdict is still due. One thing I really really like about the PX5000 is that is has an axis lock. Did I mention that that is one cool feature I really like ?....

Cheers
 
***Still hasn't tested the Momo wheel after all the advice from people he's gotten***

:O
 
Originally posted by LoudMusic
I think it's time to go through the whole game again. Maybe that'll make me good with the wheel.

There are a couple oddities I've found. Running with a couple different stock cars the wheel will begin to jerk on straights. No idea why it does this. And in the 787B on the big loop it would jitter and jerk on the banks occationally. That doesn't make sense to me either.

Other than that, it's good fun. I'll probably start the whole thing over next week.
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Oh yeah - something I've been fooling around with, thanks to a tip from WernerWinkels - try putting a yellow dot squash ball between the back of the brake pedal arm and the base plate - should just wedge in there.

I've found it gives a much more realistic feel to the braking - you actually feel like you're pushing an actual hydraulic pedal. Gives much more feel, so you can 'dab' the brakes rather than just hammering them. Well worth a try - just make sure you recalibrate the brakes though!
 
Originally posted by Flerbizky
To add a little more fuel to the fire, I just purchased a Saitek PX5000 which feels EXTREMELY accurate. Still breaking it in though, so the final verdict is still due. One thing I really really like about the PX5000 is that is has an axis lock. Did I mention that that is one cool feature I really like ?....

Cheers
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Axis Lock?
 
Originally posted by kazesupra
Axis Lock?
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Yup... You can lock the sticks so it only moves either up/down or left/right :cool:
 
Originally posted by vat_man
Oh yeah - something I've been fooling around with, thanks to a tip from WernerWinkels - try putting a yellow dot squash between the back of the brake pedal arm and the base plate - should just wedge in there.

I've found it gives a much more realistic feel to the braking - you actually feel like you're pushing an actual hydraulic pedal. Gives much more feel, so you can 'dab' the brakes rather than just hammering them. Well worth a try - just make sure you recalibrate the brakes though!
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:confused: :confused: :confused: yellow dot squash ??? :confused: :confused: :confused: ...UB57
 
Originally posted by UB57
:confused: :confused: :confused: yellow dot squash ??? :confused: :confused: :confused: ...UB57
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That was my initial reaction. I think it's something like those stress balls that you squeeze. They're kind of a dense foam so they would act like a preasure resistance device generating a more realistic feel for the peddles. Kind of like artificial force feedback.
 
Originally posted by UB57
:confused: :confused: :confused: yellow dot squash ??? :confused: :confused: :confused: ...UB57
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Oops - I meant to type 'yellow dot squash ball'. You do know there's an indoor racquet game called squash, right?

It's a rubber ball, slightly smaller than a golf ball.

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We play a game called Racquetball. The ball is generally blue and about the size of a tennis ball. I think it's too dense for this purpose though. I want something more squishy.
 
I'd buy a wheel, if I had somewhere to mount it.


Which I don't.
 
Originally posted by vat_man
Oops - I meant to type 'yellow dot squash ball'. You do know there's an indoor racquet game called squash, right?

It's a rubber ball, slightly smaller than a golf ball.
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Hiya vat_man:
:D I was 99.9% sure that you were referring to the Squash Ball & NOT the Squash Vegetable, just had to "Rattle Your Cage" a Little!!! :cheers:...UB57
:D
 
Originally posted by LoudMusic
We play a game called Racquetball. The ball is generally blue and about the size of a tennis ball. I think it's too dense for this purpose though. I want something more squishy.
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Same court - ball's too big, too, for these purposes. Not a fan of racquetball - too easy to get the ball back, so if you get two half decent squash players, the rallies go on forever.

Another option is a soft 'indoor' style golf ball. I've found they just don't give quite the same feel as the squash ball, as the squash ball actually has air in it, so you get that 'squeeze' feeling, but hey, it's better than nothing.

Just make sure you anchor your pedal base properly - mine's jammed up against folder.
 
I've been thinking about how I'm going to eventually mount all this more permanently. I think it will require lumber and hardware ...
 
Originally posted by LoudMusic
I've been thinking about how I'm going to eventually mount all this more permanently. I think it will require lumber and hardware ...
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Hardware as in power tools.....cool....
 
Well, hardware as in screws and hinges. But I WILL be using power tools, yes (:
 
Originally posted by vat_man
Oh yeah - something I've been fooling around with, thanks to a tip from WernerWinkels - try putting a yellow dot squash ball between the back of the brake pedal arm and the base plate - should just wedge in there.

I've found it gives a much more realistic feel to the braking - you actually feel like you're pushing an actual hydraulic pedal. Gives much more feel, so you can 'dab' the brakes rather than just hammering them. Well worth a try - just make sure you recalibrate the brakes though!
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THANX vat_man !!! 👍
:D FINALLY located a "Squash Ball." (In North Texas if it ain't a Bucking Bull or don't involve Football it's not considered a "Sport." / Damned Cowboys!!!) Have only tried it for 5 minutes but Love It already. MUCH better than the flimsy stock spring...UB57
:D
 
Pros you'll know once you get out there on a track with one, believe you me. :D It's a completely different and better experience. Drifting is a blast with a wheel too. 👍
Some cons are:
- If you don't have anywhere decent to put the wheel (your lap will work temporarily, then it'll just be a pain in the @ss)
-You'll be slower than your usual times and it might take a while to get competitive again.
Anybody else feel free to add to the list.

Only wheel I've used was some Mad Catz wheel and... well it was ok for a while. Damn pedals would keep sliding on the floor though, even if I had them against something, also often enough I'd have to re-position the wheel on my lap, you know what? That wheel actually pretty much sucked! :irked:
But it was certainly cooler than using the DS2.
 
is there ANY wheel i can use on my lap?

apparently the new logitech is gonna have a good leg mount but...900 degrees of rotation. that's gonna be a pain to use having a wheel mounted between my legs
 
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