When you started Drifting,How Did you start?

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Hey guys and girls, My name is Shoot_Da_Car for all who don't now, I am wanting to help A mate that is old but willing to learn to drift, I want your story,The tips you used,The tune,And the advice I should give him.

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I Started Drifting In a............ I learnt to drift by...........I used these tips? And What advice would you give for new drifters?
 
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Hey guys and girls, My name is Shoot_Da_Car for all who don't now, I am wanting to help A mate that is old but willing to learn to drift, I want your story,The tips you used,The tune,And the advice I should give him.

E.g
I Started Drifting In a............ I learnt to drift by...........I used these tips? And What advice would you give for new drifters?
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I made one earnest effort at drifting a couple of weeks ago. Dusted off my DS3, found a Silvia tune in the drifting forum and went at it. For the most part, the biggest hump I found was learning the right corner entry speeds. At first I was stuck in circuit racing mode and entering too fast, and with CH tires on, sliding right off the track. Enter too slow and you end up climbing the curb on the inside of the track.

Once I got the entry speed right it was just a matter of balancing throttle and steering to maintain the speed and the drift. I used the left stick for steering and the front trigger for gas and square/circle for brake. I'll never be a serious drifter but it's nice to know if I need to show off at some point, I can switch to the DS3 and make a cloud of smoke and not look silly doing it. :)
 
2 distinct places/cars

1. That massive right hander at Tsukuba. Ferrari 458 on sports hards. Endless attempts at controlling it around that.

2. Aston V12 on sports hards at apricot hill.


I just kept trying with these and then sure enough I could drift anything anywhere.
 
I just drift stock cars, I don't drift tuned cars. Things I drift the most are: Shelby Cobra 427 Chrome Line, VW Beetle, Lexus LFA, and that's about it. The Beetle obviously has to be a little tuned but most cars I drift are stock, it's unnecessary to drive fully tuned Silvias or whatever they are to drift.
 
First - don't get hung up on tuning: always technique over tuning!

I first got drifting in a fully worked Subaru 360, but I wouldn't necessarily suggest that :lol:

Start with front engine, RWD (not too much power - don't go straight for a 900 HP Speed 12). Anything will do, though >200BHP and CH tyres is probably minimum for slower corners, faster corner require bigger power.

Stock Shelby Cobra (as xXKingJoshXx said) is an excellent drifter as it has a wide, lazy torque delivery from mid range, though you might want something less powerful to start. Beemers are pretty good, your usual Japanese candidates, Jags, Astons, TVRs (V8 is a good one), Muscle-style is OK but they can understeer, and some of the classics seem to peg-leg. Manual gears and no TC (sounds obvious but check if you normally use it!)

Tsukuba is a great starter track, with lots different radius curves. As Johnnypenso said, entry speed is key, and avoid understeer. Initiate the drift with an exaggerated turn-in and hit the Gas to spin-up, but don't bounce the limiter. Countersteer when required, but not too much - you control the angle with the gas as much as steering.

If your car doesn't have enough power to just spin-up enough at the entry speed, you can use a nip of the handbrake if necessary, but I find a bit of lift-off or brake-release oversteer is normally enough to kick the back end out.

Watch out for long gear ratios if you change gear, as the drop in revs can cause the rears to grip and lose the drift or dump you off.
 
Started with 4WD at TGTT.
Try to start with a car that you feel comfortable with.
If not, try some random drift cars, such as a Silvia, Supra, GT-R.
It does not take long to learn.
Since we are friends, I could show you later tonight if you want.
 
kingstang5oh
Turn right to go left.


- Doc Hudson
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Damn!!! This helped so much! I never thought I'd have to steer, that's awesome. Now I'm one of the best drifters ever! Thanks mate, all that with only your help. 👍
 
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I just drift stock cars, I don't drift tuned cars. Things I drift the most are: Shelby Cobra 427 Chrome Line, VW Beetle, Lexus LFA, and that's about it. The Beetle obviously has to be a little tuned but most cars I drift are stock, it's unnecessary to drive fully tuned Silvias or whatever they are to drift.
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I drift with stock cars too. I use any car that's FR and and change the tires until I find the ones that work best for me.

Just practice alot and have fun :dopey:
 
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Started with 4WD at TGTT.
Try to start with a car that you feel comfortable with.
If not, try some random drift cars, such as a Silvia, Supra, GT-R.
It does not take long to learn.
Since we are friends, I could show you later tonight if you want.
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Im getting this stuff to help a mate.
 
Here's the advice I can offer (also, pretty sure you can find everything you're looking for by searching the drift forums, and by reading the stickies there as well).

For starters, everything I write is in reference to using CH tires, manual transmission, and all aids off. ABS is optional.

Car:

Any FR car will work, but I think you'll find the best results if you start with a lightweight, lower powered car. My personal favorites are the Mazda FC3S RX7 and the Nissan PS13 Silvia K's Dia. Both can be drifted stock, but I would suggest tuning both to about 1100kg-ish with under 300hp. After a few hours of practice, you can try bumping up the power a bit, but I would suggest staying under 400.

If your looking for tunes for either of those two, a guy by the name of TwinTurboCH posted very good base tunes for both. Neither of these tunes are the most aggressive, but they result in a very smooth and predictable car. They are designed for the wheel, but also work well with the controller (aggressive DS3 tunes tend to be more "snappy" than wheel tunes...which makes wheel tunes slightly more forgiving for beginners)

FC3S RX7

PS13 Silvia K's


Tracks:

Right out of the gate, I would start with the double hairpin at Road Course Indy. It's nice and slow (2nd gear, 3rd on exit for most tunes). Start by driving the section back and forth (not drifting) to learn the grip levels of the CH tire (it will probably feel incredibly slow). With each successive run, start using the throttle to induce controlled oversteer. When you feel ready to start initiating before the corner, the hand break is an easy way to start the drift. Also start using a slight weight transfer to help initiate. The goal with this section is to be able to smoothly link the two corners.

Next, I would go to the S-curve at High Speed Ring. It's pretty much the same as Indy, but much bigger. It's a good place to practice holding a consistent line and angle through a long corner. I'm usually in 4th gear for the first corner, quickly down to 3rd for the transition, the back to 4th, and then 5th through the exit.

Once you're comfortable with those two sections, I would suggest the first section of Autumn Ring Mini Reverse (done in both directions). A good place to get the hang of multiple corners of varying speeds. To switch things up, you can try the last section of A-Ring Reverse, but the banking of the final 180' corner can be tricky for beginners (gotta learn eventually though).

My last suggestion for a learner spot is the S-curves at Suzuka, done in both directions. On the downhill, don't worry about going huge on the entry, or trying to follow the D1 line. To start, just focus on smoothly linking all 5 corners.

Remember, the key is throttle control! Hope this helps :)
 
Thank you'll so much guys. :guilty:
I'm the old noob young ShootDaCar is trying his best to help out here. 👍
I'm affraid my search skillz are about as good as my drifting....I'm endeavoring to improve both, drifting first. :)

I have a couple of S13's in my shed, along with RX7's and others....seems I probably over-stepped the HP for beginners, as all are high HP.
I will knock it back some, then give those corners some real "time" over the weekend. :)

Cheers ShootDaCar, I'll spot you online some time mate. 👍
 
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Thank you'll so much guys. :guilty:
I'm the old noob young ShootDaCar is trying his best to help out here. 👍
I'm affraid my search skillz are about as good as my drifting....I'm endeavoring to improve both, drifting first. :)

I have a couple of S13's in my shed, along with RX7's and others....seems I probably over-stepped the HP for beginners, as all are high HP.
I will knock it back some, then give those corners some real "time" over the weekend. :)

Cheers ShootDaCar, I'll spot you online some time mate. 👍
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Sweet as man.
 

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