where did the clubsports go?

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msrfrog33
I don't see the pedals on fanatecs site. I was planing on getting them when I get my tax refund. With a wheel also of course.
 
They're coming up with a new version.

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I hope (that if they actually do release the V2's) then an upgrade kit should be made for us current CSP owners. That would really make my day!
 
i bought my csp'es early waiting for the csw :( and it seems like i am a fool :( but really i dont know how much better the peddles above are compared to the current csp just seems like more moving part, not more realism.
 
scoddee
^^^^^ Ping, that pic is a "one off" by a privateer. You got the good stuff, relax.

Scotty
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Got news for ya......they're not a one off. Those pedals are indeed a Fanatec prototype and aren't the only set. Careful observers would have noticed a set of them were briefly shown on the recent review episode of ISR.
 
On that Japanese guy's website, there's a wiring diagram of handbrake/clutch. Not sure what he was talking about, but it looks as if he was able to get the handbrake working.
 
These pedals do not look much different from the current CSPs.

CSPs are great pedals as they are and I'm not sure what would be the actual benefit that will could get with these new pedals.

I also think that instead of inventing new pedals Fanatec should concentrate on improving the quality of their current products (CSR E Wheel and CSW) as well as release the CSS and CSH.
 
From what I remember reading, the clutch feels more like a real clutch and the brake, with that RC shock, rebounds faster. Not completely sure though...
 
mikochu
From what I remember reading, the clutch feels more like a real clutch and the brake, with that RC shock, rebounds faster. Not completely sure though...
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You are correct. And the pedals in that pic like mentioned before are not a one off. those are direct from Fanatec. Also if you don't think thats an improvement over the current club sports you're smoking something.

The pedal travel and resistence on the brake of the current club sports sucks, especially compared to my perfect pedal. The gas is too loose, and the clutch is also go to much travel. These new clubsports are just what the doctor ordered.
 
Mayaman
You are correct. And the pedals in that pic like mentioned before are not a one off. those are direct from Fanatec. Also if you don't think thats an improvement over the current club sports you're smoking something.

The pedal travel and resistence on the brake of the current club sports sucks, especially compared to my perfect pedal. The gas is too loose, and the clutch is also go to much travel. These new clubsports are just what the doctor ordered.
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That is what the tuning kit was made for silly :dopey: But, I do agree as stock, that is what I felt. Once I moved the brake bar up 1 notch and made spring adjustments, I have to say, the CSP's fall just short of CST's. Grant you, IMO, and I have tried top tier CST pedals. Clutch travel is my only real gripe which I concur with.

For what you pay, the CSP's are a steal imho. If $$$ is not an issue, then I can see where that sentiment comes from.
 
ive just recently bought some csp's, i do hope they do some kind of upgrade kit, like they did with v2 of the gt3 as the frame looks the same as v1 csp. or maybe do a part ex.
 
mikochu
On that Japanese guy's website, there's a wiring diagram of handbrake/clutch. Not sure what he was talking about, but it looks as if he was able to get the handbrake working.
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confirmed I have the handbrake working, you can work it from a button or a potentiometer/ load cell + amp.. wires into the club sports but only works in Forza :) Won't work on the PC till they update the drivers I suspect.
 
gslooney
confirmed I have the handbrake working, you can work it from a button or a potentiometer/ load cell + amp.. wires into the club sports but only works in Forza :) Won't work on the PC till they update the drivers I suspect.
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Wait so there definitely better be an upgrade kit since the v1 clubsports don't have a handbrake port.
 
gslooney
confirmed i have the handbrake working, you can work it from a button or a potentiometer/ load cell + amp.. Wires into the club sports but only works in forza :) won't work on the pc till they update the drivers i suspect.
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omg i want!
 
ibuycheap
Wait so there definitely better be an upgrade kit since the v1 clubsports don't have a handbrake port.
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Yes they do.

There's an open port on the PCB.....it's for a handbrake.
 
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The port is at the top right of the pic

The board you linked is from the very early batch of CSPs. I'm willing to bet for the people that have that board will be given a chance to get the later board.
 
thehawk05
Got news for ya......they're not a one off. Those pedals are indeed a Fanatec prototype and aren't the only set. Careful observers would have noticed a set of them were briefly shown on the recent review episode of ISR.
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That would be good news, thanks. Has Thomas acknowledged them as a Fanatec prototype ? If so, has a production timeline been set ?

Scotty
 
This all started when someone observed that the CSPs on the ISR GranStand review were very similar to the Fanatec Prototype sent to a modder in Japan who posted it on his Japanese blog.

The Fanatac Wheel Fan site then posted this:

http://f-wheel.com/news/new-version-clubsport-pedals-spotted-again

The links to his website are in the Fanatec Wheel Fan site posting.

He is the same guy that posted youtube videos of an self-built H-Shifter, a handbrake and his original CSP clutch and brake modifications. Both his YouTube user name and Blog names are Tekiei1 (敵影一) which roughly translates into English as shadow, silhouette, or presence of the enemy 1.

This is the URL for his YouTube channel:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Tekiei1/feed?feature=context

If you troll through his blog, and his youtube videos you will see his original modified CSPs were aluminum, not anodized black, although the prototype sent to him from Fanatec was anodized black, as are the CSPs in the ISR review.

You will also realize by trolling through his blog that he received a prototype CSR elite wheel last year, so he has some kind of relationship with Fanatec.

He has also modified the pulley assembly for the belts in the CSR Elite wheel too, troll through his site and you will find that as well.
 
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Like to see someone leave these at a bar like Apple.

IIRC the japanese guy works for frex.
But i could be way off the mark there. I seem to be going.through a stretch of dumbassedness lately ;)
 
I don't know if you've guys have ever actually translated the guys blog, but what I get from how he talks about it. At least he's a beta tester. (he just got a CSR Elite retail version gifted by Thomas 👍 )

For example look at this page: http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/rmjhj650/27684734.html

If you scroll down a bit you see a 3D CAD program being used (Speedy Mill 3D). I reckon he's trying to figure out how to keep the belt from slipping in the beta wheel when it's under load (like when you hold the wheel still and the motors spin with full torque).


Here's a nice mod on the CSR Elite to easily adjust the belt tension: http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/rmjhj650/28001792.html
 
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LogiForce
I don't know if you've guys have ever actually translated the guys blog, but what I get from how he talks about it. At least he's a beta tester. (he just got a CSR Elite retail version gifted by Thomas 👍 )

For example look at this page: http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/rmjhj650/27684734.html

If you scroll down a bit you see a 3D CAD program being used (Speedy Mill 3D). I reckon he's trying to figure out how to keep the belt from slipping in the beta wheel when it's under load (like when you hold the wheel still and the motors spin with full torque).


Here's a nice mod on the CSR Elite to easily adjust the belt tension: http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/rmjhj650/28001792.html
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He is a modder that goes by the name of Tekiei.
and from what i understand is that thomas has asked for his help to solve a problem with belt slippage.
he has created a motor berring support and manual belt tensioner to use to adjust the belts without opening the wheel base.
he has tried to increase the belt tension but it resulted in over stressing the force feedback motors shaft berrings hence the idea of the berring support.
he has also remachined the motor v-groove pulleys to a different pitch but it did not help.
unfortunately the motor torque is overcoming the belt capacity and this would result in belt slippage and thus create excessive heat and a glazing of the belt.
fanatec should have stayed with the cog belt type as on there previous wheels.
it looks like it could be a while before these issues are sorted out
 

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