Which cars force you to become a better driver?

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I was thinking about this whilst practicing using the GT06 round HSR... and I realised that it tends to actually force you to use proper driving technique, whereas other cars let you get away with much more...


Can anyone think of any other cars I can play with that'll basically slap me in the wall if I start using poor technique?
 
F40 or the 599 have some typical characteristics that don't allow you to get sloppy. The F40 curiously has a good bit of understeer with little off-throttle turnin characteristic found in most MRs, and a great deal of oversteer...It really challenges you to pay attention because of this. The 599 understeers (a lot) and oversteers a good bit, depending on throttle position, speed, steering angle, etc., so it too demands attention.
 
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The Ferrari 512BB. So much weight transfer it really makes you think about how much braking, turning and accelerating you need to use. I drove it for a while, then drove the 96 Elise straight after (basically the same characteristics but with way less power) and set some blinding laps :D
 
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The Art Morrison and the Clio Tuned are a challenge too to hold them on the track with pro physics... the F40 is a lot fun to drive
 
Ferrari F40 and TVR Tuscan Speed Six.

Drive them both with all aids off (apart from ABS set to 1) and pro physics.
 
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I guess I should precede car choice with the more important tidbits of info that make you a better virtual driver...

Physics: Pro
Active Steering: Off
ASM: Off
TC: Off
ABS: Off (If you can. If not, meh...no biggy)

Those of course make more of a difference in making you better than any one car.

Cheers.
 
Cultlife
...Can anyone think of any other cars I can play with that'll basically slap me in the wall if I start using poor technique?
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I don't know about slapping you in the wall, but I find using lower powered cars forces me to use every bit of what I've got (The engine, suspension, tires, the track itself...) to get around the guy in front of me.

I love running harder events with a lightly modded, clio (Not the tuned version) just to see how high I can finish.
 
I think the next GTP event should be the art morrison on N1 tires around eiger. That is a blast to try and control...
 
Drive the F40. That makes you drive properly. Its got long gears so you dont have to think about them to much, but to get it to hit every apex with the back end in-line, its a challenge. Also each braking point has to be prefect as they arent great :lol:.

When you try and push in this car, its a really challenge.
 
mu22stang
I guess I should precede car choice with the more important tidbits of info that make you a better virtual driver...

Physics: Pro
Active Steering: Off
ASM: Off
TC: Off
ABS: Off (If you can. If not, meh...no biggy)

Those of course make more of a difference in making you better than any one car.

Cheers.
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Yeah as soon as I looked over these forums I immediately switched to these settings, but some cars still allow you to brake through corners and stuff, and parts of my brain use any opportunity to slack off rather than improve, haha.


Thanks for the suggestions, I will try all of them this evening at some point.
 
Yes GT06 at HSR.

Cant do any better than 3rd with 799PP. Best lap is a very late 1:03...

AM corvette for grip. Easy for drift :lol:

I thin the other cars are alright


Oh the GTLM when you first use it e.g Brakes ----->> drift!!!
 
well i got to use my DFGT today for the first time(amazing wheel:tup: )
i used the bnr 34 gtr on pro and well it handled great and easy, the 35gtr was a real challenge to me. the ferrari 512bb was really fun to drive, today i'm hooked again on gt5p:crazy:
 
I haven't had the opportunity to drive most of the cars metioned here yet, but the Corvette Zo6 on HSR and most of the courses gave me some trouble at first. Lift throttle over-steer :crazy:. Owned me a few times. But once you get the handle on throttle control and steering input it's lots of fun to drive, once it starts to step out on you if you aren't on top of it...it's very possible you'll be facing the other direction. hahaha :)👍
 
F40 hands down! This car has to be driven perfectly otherwise you will end up on the sand or on the wall! Timing and practice is needed for this car and that's why alot people hate this car...in my case I love it since I love the challenge! :P
 
i think the corvette Z06 is a great learning process especially when you drive it online at the FUJI Expert races vs insane GTR drivers and ferrari's.
 
Well, there are a few cars where you really need to know what you're doing to make them quick and keep them on the road. NSX-R, Elise 111R (tuned or factory), F40, GT 06 or GT LM Spec II. Any AWD car is going to be extremely forgiving because they have soooo much grip.
 
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F40 hands down! This car has to be driven perfectly otherwise you will end up on the sand or on the wall! Timing and practice is needed for this car and that's why alot people hate this car...in my case I love it since I love the challenge! :P
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Out of curiosity, and in keeping with the original question, does it actually reward you when you get it right?

Some cars are terrible to drive until you get the hang of them, then they're amazing and fast.

Some cars are just terrible to drive.
 
Id say Ford GT :P, F40 on the other hand felt pretty easy to me :S, maybe it was the Suzuka challnege practice that helped me but its a nice car now.
 
How bout this aspect.. Run some of the same cars you love online and do Time Trials.. The z06 tuned for example on HSR reverse is a slippery challenge with throttle control.. It made me a better driver fo sure.. Then there is the argument that you cant setup your car for TT's but running them trains you quick to realize that your car is TOTALLY DIFFERENT and you have to really "dig down deep" to have patience and understand what your car is doing and how to correct it
 
The nsx and(r type) pro physics/n3 tires/abs off


Oh yeah the 512bb. Somewhere on these forums i remember someone had mentioned it feels a bit like a GPL car and I have to agree!
 
i like the lexus isf, but i got most problems with the zo6, in pro with n2tyres, this car it's all or nothing and the brakes aren't the best ones.

greetings
 
got to be the tuscan 6 speed for me. I keep in the garage never to be let out. If thats a true indication of the actual car, then I feel sorry for the real owners. What a POS.
 
Cultlife
I was thinking about this whilst practicing using the GT06 round HSR... and I realised that it tends to actually force you to use proper driving technique, whereas other cars let you get away with much more...
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I would say that in the current form (post-August update) the Ford GT 06 you've already been using is probably your best bet. You can turn a very good lap in it, but you have to drive it very much in the "classic" (real life) method:

1) Slow down as much as necessary on the straight, leaving little or no braking to be done during corner entry.

2) Use gentle throttle control to guide the car to the apex.

3) Once you get to the apex squeeze throttle down, don't slam it down.

(Note, in current post-august form I'm fairly sure GT5P isn't mapping this correctly. What should happen in the GT if you hit the apex and just slam the pedal is a good likelihood you'll spin up the rears and then spin the car. All you get now is gobs of understeer. However, either way, if you squeeze the pedal down the results are an appropriately handled (fast) corner).

If you do this the GT 06 will still turn a blistering lap even though it does tend to understeer pretty badly if you mess up your entry even a tiny bit. The problem is that you pretty much can't race it online this way because most of the cars out there allow later braking and can be "thrown" into the corners more violently. If you over-drive the GT into the corners you'll usually just understeer and wreck it, and if you drive it properly some idiot driving a different car (usually the S2000 it seems) will just slam into you because they don't have to start braking until much deeper into the corner and they can't be bothered to drive properly.

This really gets my blood boiling.
 
I was spending a lot of time in three RWD cars usually around Eiger when I started to get a feel for how to really control the car when the back started to lose traction and still keep going.

pro physics, all aids off, and in the DB9, SL55, and M3.
 

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