who are the top 5 Generals/Conquerors to ever live?

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Well lets think about this people. Genkhis khan never lost a battle, Napoleon had 80% of europe under his control, and Alexander was a brilliant strategist.

if you werwe to choose between all the generals/conquerors that ever lived who would you pick to be the top 5.

I'd choose:
1.Genkhis Khan
2.Alexander the Great
3.Rommel
4Napoleon
5.William the Conqueror or Robert E. Lee
 
Henry the VIII. He was a ladies man. Plus, he left the old church and made another one. I hate history, he's the only one I can remember. I'd say the best ruler ever was FDR.
 
Me, I'm conquering the world right now and no one realises it. None others come close so I won't list the next 4 down.
 
Reading the GTP Lord of the Flies thread I have decided that Drift4Eva will become the greatest conqueror,
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...of Corrine that is. :sly:
 
I think Attilla the Hun needs a mention in this thread. He did bring the Roman Empire to it's knees...

This might be a bit controversial, but I'd also suggest Adolf Hitler. He could have won the Battle of Britain had he bombed the airbases and factories for just a while longer, which would have given him air superiority, giving the Germans the oppurtunity to invade Britain with relative ease. This in turn would have freed up German forces for the east, which could have made a major difference in the war. Fortunately for us though, Hitler did not tolerate any criticizm (sp?) like most dictators, and made quite a few poor decisions that lost the Germans many battles. But he certainly had the capability to conquer Europe, had he played his cards properly.
 
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Me, I'm conquering the world right now and no one realises it. None others come close so I won't list the next 4 down.
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I have world domination planned out. Maybe we should join forces:tup:

On another note Napolean was prbably the best conquerer ever. He was a brilliant stratagist. But then again if you were to ask for the best civilization ever -- as in conquering -- I don't think you could go past the Romans.
 
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This might be a bit controversial, but I'd also suggest Adolf Hitler. He could have won the Battle of Britain had he bombed the airbases and factories for just a while longer, which would have given him air superiority, giving the Germans the oppurtunity to invade Britain with relative ease. This in turn would have freed up German forces for the east, which could have made a major difference in the war. Fortunately for us though, Hitler did not tolerate any criticizm (sp?) like most dictators, and made quite a few poor decisions that lost the Germans many battles. But he certainly had the capability to conquer Europe, had he played his cards properly.
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This was brave but needed to be said. If we chose to forget people like him, history could very well repeat itself.

Everyone else I would have said has already been mentioned! 👍
 
Although some may fear to say it because of all the horrible things that he did, Hitler was a military genius. He let his emotions get in the way; which is why he lost the war. I agree with Ev0 on that one. There were also Octavian and Julius Caesar, who built the Roman Empire. Outside of that I can't really think of many more. Maybe if you believe Biblical History Joshua of the Hebrews; who essentially wiped the middle east of people so that the Hebrews could have a place to live.
 
Karl Donitz - Commander of the Nazi U-boat fleet in WWII. He was on the brink of crippling the Atlantic sea route and having a titanic influence on the war - all this with no more than 50-70 boats patrolling the entire Atlantic at a time.
 
genghis, napoleon, alexander, hitler, attila, saladin (whatever his name was), and nobunaga oda were all good at what they did.
 
Julius Caesar, Rommel, Hannibal, Zhukov, Napoleon

I have to disagree with the people who've chosen Hitler. Although he made some excellent decisions early in the war, he made a large number of awful blunders later on.
 
General George and Hannibal (of the A-team, not the elephant bloke)
 
How did Rommel get in there ? a great general yes..but MONTGOMERY BEAT HIM..and he wasn't very good at it..being a general that is. And Robert E . Lee? A great General ? Yes but his competition was deplorable. When he did come up against decent commanders he lost at Gettysburg. And I guess that also makes the man that beat him to win the war Grant a "great General " ? Hmmmm good but not great. Sherman may have been a great general.
Hitler as a great conquerer / general ? hmmm Hitler screwed up so bad he may make the WORST Generals list. But just on results alone he's gotta make the Conquerers list.
Stalin gets my vote for modern conquerer, all of eastern Europe along with all the states of the Soviet Union and parst of ASIA ! He did better than Ghengis Khan ! Who gets my old heads vote.
 
Great generals are Stalin, Atila the Hun and Ghengis khan.
But you don't see what I'm doing do you, right now infront of your eyes I'm taking over the world *cue evil laugh*
 
How did Rommel get in there ? a great general yes..but MONTGOMERY BEAT HIM..and he wasn't very good at it..being a general that is. And Robert E . Lee? A great General ? Yes but his competition was deplorable. When he did come up against decent commanders he lost at Gettysburg. And I guess that also makes the man that beat him to win the war Grant a "great General " ? Hmmmm good but not great. Sherman may have been a great general.
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Yes he made mistakes, but he was under alot of pressure. First he was against Britain, USA and their many allies. Secondly, at the end of the war he had very few allies.
I think Hitler shoudl be remembered as a great general. He was years ahead of the tactics of other countries. German attcks were done quickly and swiftly, surprising the enemy. Not slow and dug-in like past wars. He combined teh use of Mech armour and thr air force to make a trully formidable force. His armies (Near the beginning of the war) and tremendous moral levels, due to the great speeches that he made. And the fact he controlled most of Europe, eastern asia and some of north Africa cannot be ignored.

After reading this don't think I am a Hitler supporter as I am not. His idealisic views were disgraceful and led to the death of thousands (if not millions) of innocent people.
 
Your confusing Hitler with his generals. Heinz Guderian was the German who brought the blitzkrieg to the forfront along with Rommel (who actually used it very well in battle.) and other German generals the German Blitzkrieg itself was an almalgam of Ideas from British and French war experts that anylised the first world war and came up with the Blitz as a way to counter the stalemate of trench warfare or static warfare.
The Germans began to lose the war the day Hitler decided that he knew more than his generals, he was a meglomaniac fool.
Heres some info;
During 1920s, British military philosophers Captain Sir Basil Liddell Hart, General J.F.C. Fuller and General Martell further developed tactics of mobile warfare. They all postulated that tanks could not only seize ground by brute strength, but could also be the central factor in a new strategy of warfare. If moved rapidly enough, concentrations of tanks could smash through enemy lines and into the enemy's rear, destroying supplies and artillery positions and decreasing the enemy's will to resist. All of them found tank to be an ultimate weapon able to penetrate deep into enemy territory while followed by infantry and supported by artillery and airforce. In late 1920s and early 1930s, Charles De Gaulle, Hans von Seekt, Heinz Guderian and many others became interested in the concept of mobile warfare and tried to implement it in an organizational structure of their armies. Heinz Guderian organized Panzers into self-contained Panzer Divisions working with the close support of infantry, motorized infantry, artillery and airforce. From 1933 to 1939, Germany was on a quest to fully mechanize their army for an upcoming conflict.
And here is a link if you want to know more. http://www.achtungpanzer.com/blitz.htm
 
Gen. George Patton. the guy was a bit crazy but if you wanted someone to go out and LEAD the troops and kick ass , he was the guy.
 

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