Who do you think has what it takes to make it into Formula 1?

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Overnight, Team Rapax announced their lineup for this year's GP2 season: Tom Dillman and Ricardo Teixeira. And I have to say - the choice is uninspiring. Dillman has potential, but Teixeira is a moving chicane, mostly there because of his Angolan petrodollars (though that's probably what allows Dillman to race). Looking at the GP2 grid this year, I can't help but notice that it's more of the same. Gone are the days of Hamiltons and Hulkenbergs - most of the grid is taken up by pay-drivers like Max Chilton and Rodolfo Gonzalez who plainly don't have the talent for Formula 1, but live beyond their means because of their bank balances.

This got me thinking: where is the next generation of Formula 1 driver going to come from? Some time in the next few years, there is going to be a glut of available seats as drivers - like Schumacher, de la Rosa, Karthikeyan and Webber - start to retire. And no doubt the dead weight from this year will be trimmed out. There is going to come a time when we need a whole host of new talent to enter the frame. The question is, can we put a name and a face to that talent?

The first driver that gets my attention is Estonia's Kevin Korjus. He's had some good results in Formula Renault 3.5, and this year he's with Tech 1 Racing, who have a pretty good reputation. He also tested for Renault at the Young Driver Tests in Abu Dhabi last year, and I think he's very impressive. He's also partnered with Jules Bianchi - who is highly-rated himself - this year, so if Korjus prevails in FR3.5, then I fully expect him to step up to Formula 1 in 2013. Even if he doesn't beat Bianchi, he's still demonstrated he's got the talent.

Sticking with Formula Renault for the moment, I'm also impressed by Robin Frijns. He's had a lot of success in Formula Renault 2.0 and Formula BMW, and he's also topping the timing sheets in 3.5 Series testing. It's his maiden season in 3.5, and he's looking pretty good for it. This year will be a much better indicator of his talent, but if he keeps going the way he has been, then I think Formula 1 is definately in his future.

Another driver that I'm following closely is Sergey Sirotkin. He looked really good in Formula Abarth last year, and while his first race in AutoGP this year was a bit of a disaster, he did qualify on the front row for his first race, set the fastest lap in both races and recovered to fourth place in the second race - and he's only sixteen years old. He's got plenty of potential, and plenty of time to show it before he can step up to Formula 1.

Continuing our theme of Eastern European drivers (the former USSR seems to be undergoing the motorsport renaissance Bernie was hoping Asia and the Middle East would experience), I'm also watching Romanian Robert Visiou, who is racing for Jenzer in GP3 and Team Ghinzani in Italian Formula 3 this year. He's only sixteen, and although he hasn't shown the promise Sirotkin has, he's an interesting prospect because he's doing some really intense racing programmes this season.

I know I said GP2 was a bit lacking in the talent pool this season, but that doesn't mean there isn't any hope at all. Felipe Nasr has joined DAMS, and he's got a long list of impressive achievements to his name, including winning British F3 last year. DAMS really stepped up in 2011 (even if Varhaug was useless), and if any of the GP2 rookies is going to win the title this year, I think Nasr will be the man to do it.

Finally, David Zhu caught my eye. I think that Chinese involvement in Formula 1 is inevitable, whether through a driver or a team, and I think Zhu might be the best chance China has right now. He's racing in Formula 2, and while that series is largely a mediocre joke, I can't help but wonder if it was a political move. The three F2 champions to date have all been decently-rated (if not highly), but for various reasons, they have not quite moved on the way they should have (ie Stoneman's cancer). Winning the Formula 2 title makes one eligible for a superlicence, so if Zhu were to win, then the combination of title and possible sponsors would make him a viable candidate for a Formula 1 team. I'm not sure if he will make it or if he can make it, but this year could be very interesting.

Okay, that was a bit longer than I intended. Six drivers that I'm watching; I was originally only going to post three. If I had to pick three of them to make it, then I'd say we can expect to see Korjus, Sirotkin and Nasr in the near future. They've demonstrated the talent; they just need an opening (and probably a sponsor).

Now it's your turn - who do you think will make it?
 
I agree that the GP2 grid has seen an influx of pay drivers over the past few years. For that reason I believe we will see more drivers come from the current Formula Renault 3.5 grid than we will come from the GP2 grid this season.

Taking a look at the current GP2 line-up I can only see two or three drivers that scream out 'future Formula One driver' to me.

Along with Nasr who you mentioned, I will be keeping a firm eye on James Calado this season. He has had great results in the Formula Renault UK 2.0 and British Formula Three championships and his maiden GP3 campaign saw him finish second. He might not set the world alight this season, but if he's given time I believe he could become a regular GP2 podium finisher, if not race winner.

I can see Davide Valsecchi, Giedo van der Garde and Esteban Gutiérrez all driving in Formula One in the future.

However, it's the Formula Renault 3.5 Grid that gets me excited. Kevin Magnussen, son of Jan is only 19, and his rapid rise through the lower formule suggest he has some talent. He was second to Nasr last season in the British Formula Three championship, defiantly one to watch.

I have very high hopes of the Arden line up. Lewis Williamson is a Formula Renault UK 2.0 runner-up and won the prestigious McLaren BRDC Young Driver award in 2010, that makes him a very hot property. Alongside him I was very impressed with Alexander Rossi last season, and it was not surprise that he is now Caterham reserve. With the US Grand Prix back on the map he couldn't have picked a better time...

But my main man to watch in all the lower formule this season is Richie Stanaway. First came across him in January last year at the Formula Renault UK winter series and he looked a talent. Since then, he dominated the German Formula Three Championship and even scored a victory on his debut in GP3 at Spa. He is a massive talent and the only reason I can't see him making it is budget issues, but I still think he'll make it.

Outside of the two 'main feeder series' there are still a few drivers climbing the ladder.

Mitch Evans is defiantly one to watch. Only 17-years-old but has cleaned up almost everything infront of him in Australia and he's making the move over to Europe this season.

Since I covered Formula Renault UK 2.0 last season, it wouldn't be fair to leave out Alex Lynn from this. Although the grid was poor in numbers it was rich in talent. A record 12 wins in 20 races and just lost out to his team-mate Oliver Rowland for the Autosport BRDC Young Driver award. He was very quick in his Eurocup outings too.

Tom Blomqvist is another one to watch. Formula Renault UK champion at 16, beat Williamson, and son of Stig. Although Williamson beat him to the Autosport Award, to win a prestigious championship at 16 is a huge achievement. He was doing well last season until fracturing his back, but this year he's been inducted into the McLaren junior programme along with Magnussen.

Others to watch further down, Jordan King is a up and coming driver, Stefan Wackerbauer , has just been inducted into the Red Bull programme and Nyck de Vries has won everything going in Karting and is in the McLaren program.
 
I'd add Tio Ellinas to the list of drivers to keep an eye on, he's been competitive almost immediately in his rookie season for each series I've seen him in.

I don't agree that suddenly GP2 suffers from a poor field - its been this way for a while now going way back. Hulkenburg didn't exactly have a stellar field to beat.
 
I knew I was forgetting someone - Ellinas was that someone. And possibly Rio Haryanto, but I think the vote is still out.

Still, it's always nice to see a country with no previous representation join the grid. So far we've got Estonians, Cypriots, Romanians, Indonesians and a Chinese national, plus representatives from returning nations Denmark, the Netherlands, the USA and New Zealand.
 
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I don't agree that suddenly GP2 suffers from a poor field - its been this way for a while now going way back. Hulkenburg didn't exactly have a stellar field to beat.

True, but there really weren't many shining stars last year; for the first few races, nobody seemed like much of a front-runner for long, except for Grosjean. A couple of good drivers here and there, but there would be these great drives like Veitoris at Silverstone, and then be nowhere at the following event.

Since it's virtually impossible to reach back further than the current GP2 crop in America...anyone know if GP3 racing is televised in the States, or is it too second-fiddle compared to Formula Renault?
 
I don't agree that suddenly GP2 suffers from a poor field - its been this way for a while now going way back. Hulkenburg didn't exactly have a stellar field to beat.
Well, the current GP2 field is probably at an all-time low. Nasr, Calado and Gutierrez are probably the most exciting prospects. Maybe Kral. Formula Renault 3.5 seems to have a much better range of talent, probably because it's cheaper to compete in.
 
Well, the current GP2 field is probably at an all-time low. Nasr, Calado and Gutierrez are probably the most exciting prospects. Maybe Kral. Formula Renault 3.5 seems to have a much better range of talent, probably because it's cheaper to compete in.

FR3.5 has risen this year to be on a par with GP2, though GP2 must still be the more natural feeder given the cars bear greater resemblance and follows the same calendar largely.
 
Since it's virtually impossible to reach back further than the current GP2 crop in America...anyone know if GP3 racing is televised in the States, or is it too second-fiddle compared to Formula Renault?

GP3 is kind of Formula 3 level, though GP3 has been less competitive than say the top series like British F3 or Euroseries. That might slowly change though.

Formula Renault depends on what you are referring to. If you're referring to FR3.5, thats now seen as on par with GP2. But if you're referring to FR2.0 or the national series (e.g. FR UK), these series are seen as underneath F3.

To put it a bit simpler going from lowest to highest:
-Formula Ford
-Formula Renault 2.0/Formula Renault National/BARC Formula Renault/Formula BMW.
-GP3, British/Italian/Japanese Formula 3, F3 Euroseries.
////Weird gray area - Formula Nippon, Formula 2, Superleague Formula
-GP2, Formula Renault 3.5, Indy Lights.

Anything below GP3/F3 is unlikely to be televised at all (though there are exceptions). GP3/F3 is probably difficult to get international television coverage.
 
Yeah, I agree with Only_in_f1, Alex Lynn has to make it to F!. He impressed very well in FRenault UK, dominating the season, with only one other driver winning multiple races. He definitely has the talent to make it.
 
One guy that can spot talent in NZ is a guy named Kenny Smith, (who despite being close to 70, still is active in motorsport) he doesn't have a team in which they can can drive for rather he takes them under his wing, recent drivers he's mentored include Chris Pither (Last years V8 ute Champion in Australia) Brendon Hartley, Scott Dixon, Stanaway, and Evans, to name a few. We just don't have the money to send our drivers overseas so most of them race local touring cars and race in Australia
 
It's a shame Formula Renault UK has now been killed. Another formula bites the dust!

Yeah, I'm gutted to hear this not only because it will be missed from the BTCC support (and there currently no plans to replace it) but also because Josh Hill was looking promising in testing, I wanted to see what he could do now he'd signed up to the best team (Fortec).
It was inevitable though seeing the very weak entry list the past few seasons, the attempt to merge it with BARC was never going to work.

Yeah, I agree with Only_in_f1, Alex Lynn has to make it to F!. He impressed very well in FRenault UK, dominating the season, with only one other driver winning multiple races. He definitely has the talent to make it.

Only one? Tio Ellinas also won multiple races along with Rowland.

And while I agree that Alex is good, lets be honest here and point out the two drivers he was fighting the championship with were rookies, while Alex was in his second season of FRUK. Dominating a weak field like that doesn't mean as much as say dominating a harder series like British F3.
 
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And possibly Rio Haryanto, but I think the vote is still out.

I would love to see him into Formula 1 anyday from now but unfortunately, his past results weren't that encouraging and inconsistent. This might sound harsh but I'm afraid he might just be another Alex Yoong.
 
Am I missing something here, when was it cut from the BTCC?

Its spreading around on the various forums, but it has been confirmed - FR UK has been cancelled due to lack of interest (there were only 7-8 drivers even in testing!).
 
Oh damn! I enjoyed watching it throughout the last couple of years. Know (and raced...) one of the drivers who was hoping to return this year as well.
 
Its spreading around on the various forums, but it has been confirmed - FR UK has been cancelled due to lack of interest (there were only 7-8 drivers even in testing!).

Worse than that - there were only 5!

At £200k a season its no surprise its died. Fortec propped up the grid and the decision to add BARC cars onto the back of the grid also failed. Manor pulled the plug and Fortec were unwilling to run the 6/7 car team needed so it's been 'postponed'. It should come back in the next couple of years...
 
GP3 is kind of Formula 3 level, though GP3 has been less competitive than say the top series like British F3 or Euroseries. That might slowly change though.

I must disagree with you here, if you look at this years and last years GP3 series grid there is an impressive list of achievements behind most of the drivers. Many of them have won in their respective nations FR or F3 series, multiple karting titles, and others.

In F3 Euroseries there were only nine drivers testing the other day. The only name I know from the entrance is Felix Rosenqvist, was in the top five in 2010 FRUK.
Its spreading around on the various forums, but it has been confirmed - FR UK has been cancelled due to lack of interest (there were only 7-8 drivers even in testing!).

Hate to say it but F3 Euroseries might be going the same way. Would be a shame to lose the category as it is where many of todays F1 drivers cut their teeth.

But my main man to watch in all the lower formule this season is Richie Stanaway. First came across him in January last year at the Formula Renault UK winter series and he looked a talent. Since then, he dominated the German Formula Three Championship and even scored a victory on his debut in GP3 at Spa. He is a massive talent and the only reason I can't see him making it is budget issues, but I still think he'll make it.

Richie is indeed impressive, but I dont thing budget will be an issue. He is backed by the Gravity group, the same team that got Grosjean into Renault and kept him in GP2 last year. In fact I believe it was the only name on the car. Well, ditto for Stanaway.

Mitch Evans is defiantly one to watch. Only 17-years-old but has cleaned up almost everything infront of him in Australia and he's making the move over to Europe this season.

Not sure if you got your dates right here, Mitch's first year in Europe was last year when he competed in the GP3 series, which he lead for a time until his season was strewn with mechanical faults and hard luck. He managed to get pole twice and won on Catalunya and was on the podium again in Valencia. Ended up ninth overall I think and is back this year.

Tom Blomqvist is another one to watch. Formula Renault UK champion at 16, beat Williamson, and son of Stig. Although Williamson beat him to the Autosport Award, to win a prestigious championship at 16 is a huge achievement. He was doing well last season until fracturing his back, but this year he's been inducted into the McLaren junior programme along with Magnussen.

Interestingly, the previous two holders of the title of youngest ever to win the FRUK championship, are Lewis Hamilton, and previously, Kimi Raikonnen. Though Hamilton won it at 19 on his second attempt, and Raikonnen at 21, in his rookie year. Blomqvist; 16 and in his rookie year. May also be driving GP3 for Status this year (Alexander Sims old team - he got a win and 4 more podiums with them).
 
GP2 just a few days away now.
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GP2 under way in just a few hours. Surprised that there is no GP2 thread in this forum? Why no interest?
 
GP2 under way in just a few hours. Surprised that there is no GP2 thread in this forum? Why no interest?

I wouldn't say there is no interest, but there is just less interest. There isn't much to really discuss most of the time. The politics and incidents which colour the top-level motorsports do happen in lower formulae, but not to the same extent, so therefore there is less interest and less discussion.
Besides, this is a sub-forum for a Gran Turismo community, is it really that surprising that not every motorsport series is discussed here to the same extent?

I'd also suggest the relative lack of exciting talent in GP2 this year is probably further limiting the interest levels.
 
I wouldn't say there is no interest, but there is just less interest. There isn't much to really discuss most of the time. The politics and incidents which colour the top-level motorsports do happen in lower formulae, but not to the same extent, so therefore there is less interest and less discussion.
Besides, this is a sub-forum for a Gran Turismo community, is it really that surprising that not every motorsport series is discussed here to the same extent?

I'd also suggest the relative lack of exciting talent in GP2 this year is probably further limiting the interest levels.



Still think someone should make a thread for the GP2 Malaysia race. :)
 
It's true, GP2 does tend to produce some exciting racing. The final at Abu Dhabi last year was fantastic. But it also gets considerably less coverage than other categories, like Formula 1. And, as Ardius points out, the talent pool this year is fairly shallow.
 
The first thing I have to say is pay drivers suck......well 99% of them do. Their talentless. I have to say the next 5 talents for F1 are Felipe Nasr definitely. Just look at his pace at the 24 hours of Daytona this year. Also Kevin Magnussen. He was doing fairly well in GP3. I also think American Micheal Lewis. He was Italian F3 vice champion his first year which was last year and he got to test for Ferrari's F1 team. Also, Nyck De Vries. He is a 2 time world CIK-FIA Karting champion for Zanardi. Now he is a pay driver unfortunately. He was bringing $2 million USD to Zanardi kart last year I hear. But he is extremely talented. Don't count out Robert Wickens either. FR 3.5 Champion last year. He is pretty fast.
 
Actually, these days pay drivers are generally pretty good. The tiered nature of the feeder series, plus the demand for a superlicence for anyone who wants to race in Formula 1 both mean that drivers do need a certain level of talent before teams will start to consider them, regardless of how much money they actually have. And sponsors who are serious about getting into motorsport usually attach themselves to talented drivers. Look at Esteban Gutierrez in GP2 - he's a very talented driver, but he brings money from Carlos Slim's Telcel brand.

You do occasionally get a pay driver in the vein of Jean-Denis Deletraz, who has more money than talent and so lives beyond their means a little. This year, the likes of Gonzalez, Teixeria and Serenelli are the main offenders. But they won't get close to Formula 1. And in some respects, they're good for their teams: Teixeria, for instance, brings money from Sonangol, the Angolan petrochemical consortium. They pay a lot for him to drive for Rapax, which means that the team can take someone who may not have Teixeria's money, but makes up for it with talent. That person is Tom Dillman, who may not be as highly thought-of as the likes of Nasr and Gutierrez, but certainly has potential. But without Teixeria and his Angolan petrodollars, the team might not be able to take Dillman.
 
It's true, GP2 does tend to produce some exciting racing. The final at Abu Dhabi last year was fantastic. But it also gets considerably less coverage than other categories, like Formula 1. And, as Ardius points out, the talent pool this year is fairly shallow.


Is it okay to comment in the F1 Malaysia thread about the GP2 races then?
 
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