Who hit the USC fans with the stupid stick? -or- Why OU should still be #1.

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I assumed this subject would reach enough angry Trojans and curious observers to make a decent discussion. anyway....

First off, I would like everyone to know that I actually kinda like USC and its football program...
...but ever since this whole BCS fiasco, they've all become stupid, whiny, pretentious little babies. For example, everytime a reporter mentions anything to anyone involved with USC football about their ranking they say "We don't care what the BCS ranking says, the AP & Coaches Polls have us at #1, and that's where we consider ourselves to be." This would not bother me a bit, if it weren't for the fact that it was a huge frigg'n lie! What ever did USC do to deserve that ranking? Play one less game than OU. Lose to Cal, but since it was early in the year everyone forgets about it. CAL! 8-6 CAL! Not even receiving any votes CAL!!!

Oklahoma lost the Big 12 Division title to an amazing KSU team that, having not lost Ell Roberson for a few games, would probably be playing in the title game themselves. As it is, K-State is 10th and currently en route to finally getting a chance to crunch a team I've considered to be overrated for some time now, Ohio State, but that's another topic for another time. I recall almost every reporter saying something to the effect of "No matter what happens in this game(bigxiich.gm.), I think everyone can agree that Oklahoma will be playing in the title game for the national title." Why would they say something like this. Could it be because they annihilated every opponent they came up against? or is it because of the current top 3 teams, they have the best schedule strength? [Ou - 11, LSU - 29, USC - 37]

Another point that speaks volumes as to why USC was missing from the title game is that in most football games, there are two teams playing. Hey look, the Sugar Bowl follows these same conventions, so there must be another team playing Oklahoma. Oh, there is, and it's not USC either! It's LSU! Why? Because they are ALSO a better team than USC. So let's get this straight, there are two teams that are playing for #1, and neither are USC. If USC should be #1, one might argue, then, that they should certainly at least be #2, right?

Finally, why did we create the BCS if it creates such problems? Well, it takes out human bias and relies on FACTS. The BCS wasn't the problem here, it's the AP & Coaches Poll that screwed everything up. If {instead of dropping Oklahoma to #3 because they just now lost to KSU and moving USC to #1 because they won against Oregon State that same day} they remembered USC also has a loss, they would have kept Oklahoma at #1 and all of this would have been completely unnecessary. But since humans can't remember and don't care about what happened a few months ago, we have a huge problem that should never have gotten so huge.
 
heres the bottom line son............



OU SUCKS!!!! THEY SHOULD BE NO WHERE NEAR THE SUGAR BOWL!!!:mad:


after watching the rose bowl today and thinking about how LSU is going to stomp them, you cant honestly think that OU stands a chance, can you??

tsk tsk tsk:lol:
 
Originally posted by Naet
Sweet. I'm glad I got an intelligent reply so quickly. Anyone else care to give it a shot?


nobody else feels like bursting your bubble, chump:rolleyes::lol:
 
I'm not even gonna start...oh wait, I already did, and since all you said was "OU sucks...blahblahblah...I'm an idiot" I'm just gonna wait for someone else to reply. Good night.
 
Originally posted by Naet
I'm not even gonna start...oh wait, I already did, and since all you said was "OU sucks...blahblahblah...I'm an idiot" I'm just gonna wait for someone else to reply. Good night.


very glad to see that can properly quote me.:rolleyes:

seriously though are you gonna wait for somebody to reply or for somebody to reply with something complementing OU? cause if your waiting for the latter, i seriously doubt its gonna happen.


answer this question for me though on the serious side though.

how is it that OU didnt even win theyre division title and theyre still #1 huh?:odd::confused:

sounds like some retarded computers to me:tdown:



EDIT: Good Morning:lol:
 
Well, I don't know, take a look at all my points how bout ya? OU and USC have one loss each. OU lost to a MUCH BETTER TEAM. USC lost to CAL. The Big 12 has 7 teams above .500. The Pac-10 only has 5 teams above .500. OU will play one more game than USC.
 
Originally posted by Naet
Well, I don't know, take a look at all my points how bout ya? OU and USC have one loss each. OU lost to a MUCH BETTER TEAM. USC lost to CAL. The Big 12 has 7 teams above .500. The Pac-10 only has 5 teams above .500. OU will play one more game than USC.

Don't have a very high opinion of Cal, do we? SC's loss to Cal was bad, but it was by just three points. Meanwhile, OU lost by 28 points to a number ten team and you want them to be national champs?

You're only focusing on teams USC and OU lost to, which is a naive way to think of it. Statistically, the quality of the two teams is too close to call - OU's quarterback is better, but SC's got more average yards per carry and rushing touchdowns.

Both teams had a great season - OU never failed to score more than 19 except for the K-State game, and USC scored more than 20 every time they played. OU's high point was offing Texas 65-13, though SC took out no. 14 Washington State 43-16 and now no. 4 Michigan 28-14.

The Rose Bowl yesterday showed what a great team SC is, however - just one turnover, 21 unanswered points, a multitude of sacks - overall a great game for SC and a really crap end of the season for Michigan.

When OU loses to LSU on Sunday, this discussion will cease anyway and the "LSU vs SC" discussion will begin.
 
well first off as a lifetime UT longhorn fan i am sadly disapointed they lost to washington. UT did not deserve to be number 5. but second of all. im rooting for LSU. i dont like OU. the way they blew thier perfect season by losing to KS. they dont deserve #1. but if LSU looses then USC will be #1 i think. and if LSU wins theyll be # 1.
 
I agree, if LSU beats OU, then LSU should be #1. But, they should be the undisputed #1. I don't believe USC has had a good challenge all season and therefore can't really be had at #1 . If they were undefeated, sure, why not. But OU has had a really tough schedule all year. Honestly, if OU had lost earlier in the season instead of the last game, no one would ever had said anything. Meanwhile, if K-State beats Ohio State convincingly enough tonight, I think there may be even more of a reason to give OU props. Really and truly, I'm suprised LSU isn't more upset about being #2 in both the AP & Coaches polls, how'd they get snubbed?

One more thing, what if OU blows up LSU? What then?

I feel really silly defending OU since I don't even like them, but I just hate it when credit is given out unfairly.
 
Originally posted by Naet
Well, I don't know, take a look at all my points how bout ya? OU and USC have one loss each. OU lost to a MUCH BETTER TEAM. USC lost to CAL. The Big 12 has 7 teams above .500. The Pac-10 only has 5 teams above .500. OU will play one more game than USC.

take a look at all of M5Power's points.:p


oh yeah so when OU loses.............will you please join us in the LSU vs. USC discussion?? id like to hear your opinions on it.


Honsestly:D

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Originally posted by Naet
I agree, if LSU beats OU, then LSU should be #1. But, they should be the undisputed #1. I don't believe USC has had a good challenge all season and therefore can't really be had at #1 honestly. If they were undefeated, sure, why not. But OU has had a really tough schedule all year. Honestly, if OU had lost earlier in the season instead of the last game, no one would ever had said anything. Meanwhile, if K-State beats Ohio State convincingly enough tonight, I think there may be even more of a reason to give OU props.

I feel really silly defending OU since I don't even like them, but I just hate it when credit is given out unfairly.

no matter what ANYBODY does, theres always gonna be dispute.

how about when credit is not given out unfairly?

i think the bottom line is this whole BCS stuff is screwed. they should adopt the playoff style format like the NBA or have the sugar bowl and rose bowl winners play each other to determine the true champions, which is in a sense like a playoff format.
 
Actually, if LSU wins, I won't really change my stance. That will just prove to me that LSU is #1; as I've already pointed out, they're also better than USC.

but we'll just have to wait for that...
 
Listen. If LSSU wins, they'll be #1 because they were really close to being #1 in the polls. LSU has the best defense and USC might as well let their offense play defense. If LSU scores over 30 points against the OU defense,LSU will look better because OU has a better defense than Michigan.
 
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