yeah right! Most of the time if a car feels stable, like AWD cars or some of the more stable FR cars like the FD or RX-8, then most likely the driver will have less control over what the car is doing. Less stable cars like the AE86, FC, all the 240s will seems harder to drift but in the end allow more control. Either way 4WD drifting at extreme angles for more than split second does take quite a lot of skill.
Originally posted by TruenoAE86
Very true, except the "amateurs like you part".
First off, I know Battle can come across like a dick sometimes, but he know's his **** when it comes to drifting. Furthermore, his statement was true. AWD drifting is much easier then FR.....period. You can all bicker over it, but the fact remains. In an AWD you have less variables when drifting. In a FR you have to control the countersteer, throttle, brakes, and weight shift. In an AWD you only have to really think about brakes, and weight shift (you have to also use the throttle, but you don't need to really think about it too much). AWD drifting does take skill, but it's completely different, and less of a challenge. I think Ethix explained it best:Originally posted by TruenoAE86
Very true, except the "amateurs like you part".
You do not need to use countersteer until you want to pull the car out of the drift. I have seen a lot of people doing it wrong, lately. I guess I'm just a purist, but I think what techniques work in real life, should be researched and incorporated into GT3. To drift an AWD car you only need to use weight shift, then floor it, and control the angle with the brakes. You don't need to use countersteer, because the front wheels (being powered) do the same job, that countersteer would do in a FR, MR, or RR.
Originally posted by silviadrifter
First off, I know Battle can come across like a dick sometimes, but he know's his **** when it comes to drifting. Furthermore, his statement was true. AWD drifting is much easier then FR.....period. You can all bicker over it, but the fact remains. In an AWD you have less variables when drifting. In a FR you have to control the countersteer, throttle, brakes, and weight shift. In an AWD you only have to really think about brakes, and weight shift (you have to also use the throttle, but you don't need to really think about it too much). AWD drifting does take skill, but it's completely different, and less of a challenge. I think Ethix explained it best:
This is why AWD drifting is less of a challenge. Now don't get me wrong, I enjoy AWD drifting (I love my S4, and my Evo VI TM), but it get's old too fast, because it's just too easy. Finaly, drifting is not all about angle, it's about arc, and fluidity. I think these points are much more important than angle, because it shows more driver control (skill).
I only quoted you, because of the:
Leave it to Ultrabeat to bring a little levity to a heated argument. 👍
Originally posted by silviadrifter
I only quoted you, because of the:
I agree with everything else you said, except for the:
It's actually quite easy, once you have the angle, you just floor it, and control the angle with the brakes.
should have known...
aww thanks son...
I completely agree, and that's why I said that he can come across as a dick sometimes. All I'm saying is if you do have any skill in drifting, and understand the techniques, drifting an AWD should come quite easy. Whereas FR takes constant practice to retain the muscle memmory, due to the increased number of variables. If your drifting at all in GT3, you've figured out the basics, at least. So this should aply to just about everyone here.
