Why AWD?

[Delphic Reason]

Originally posted by FireEmblem62
another thing, has anyone tried to drift a R32 GTs with stock suspension and 340 hp lets just say the car is sus. roll-happy

It has a lot of body roll, kinda like the FC. It's fun to drift in it's stock form, and looks cool in the replays. However, I like to lower mine down a little, and tighten up the suspension. It's one of my favorite drift cars.

 

[Mustang_Child]

Originally posted by TruenoAE86


Now when I said "extreme angles", I meant upwards of 90 degrees. This does take a good deal of skill to hold and control that angle for the entire corner; I doubt a newbie could do it.

Yeah i had my sti sideways all the way with no traction at all and brought it back. just wanted to state that a awd could do it n also that im a newbie * points to title* just stating something thats probably out of place.

 

[Seito4Counter]

its funny.. now most people conside it easy to drift awd but after drifting MR and 4WD (subaru wrx) alllot.. then switching to an FC the FR layout felt so much more controllable.. with the mr and awd layouts i had to push the car really hard to hold and link the drifts but with a tuned fr it slides like a knife through butter.. so relaxing!!

(im not saying FR drifting is easy) (just more fun [my bad])

 

[Delphic Reason]

Originally posted by Seito4Counter
its funny.. now most people conside it easy to drift awd but after drifting MR and 4WD (subaru wrx) alllot.. then switching to an FC the FR layout felt so much more controllable.. with the mr and awd layouts i had to push the car really hard to hold and link the drifts but with a tuned fr it slides like a knife through butter.. so relaxing!!

(im not saying FR drifting is easy) (just funner)

Funner?

 

[akina_86]

this is common sense!

 

[kikkoman]

Originally posted by FireEmblem62
AWD- All-Wheel-Drive a.k.a. 4wheel drive

awd and 4wd are different from each other...

 

[Danny]

Most cars have 4 wheels, and all wheel would tend to suggest EVERY WHEEL

 

[exhaust_note]

Originally posted by kikkoman
awd and 4wd are different from each other...

Originally posted by ultrabeat
Most cars have 4 wheels, and all wheel would tend to suggest EVERY WHEEL

No kikkoman is right but, its not important here.

4WD has all 4 wheels moving athe the same time and same speed.
AWD transmits different amounts of power to each wheel depending on whats happening.

Thats why the STi is better in the snow and the Evo is better on asphalt. The STi takes to long to change its power out put to each wheel esulting in understear. The Evo just uses a LSD and is much quicker on asphalt but not on snow.

*fixed*

 

[Danny]

You lost me at the first word. I think it was "no"

 

[kikkoman]

Originally posted by ultrabeat
Most cars have 4 wheels, and all wheel would tend to suggest EVERY WHEEL

let me put it in a simplified way just for all you little kids who think AWD and 4WD are both the same thing.

1st of all
4wd is an option that is selected by the driver to engage four wheel drive and AWD is a pernament four wheel drive vehicle.

theres a difference.

 

[exhaust_note]

Originally posted by kikkoman
let me put it in a simplified way just for all you little kids who think AWD and 4WD are both the same thing.

1st of all
4wd is an option that is selected by the driver to engage four wheel drive and AWD is a pernament four wheel drive vehicle.

theres a difference.

that doen't explain how it works though...

this is how it works...

4WD has all 4 wheels moving athe the same time and same speed.
AWD transmits different amounts of power to each wheel depending on whats happening.

 

[akina_86]

Originally posted by exhaust_note
that doen't explain how it works though...

this is how it works...

4WD has all 4 wheels moving athe the same time and same speed.
AWD transmits different amounts of power to each wheel depending on whats happening.

oh hey E-N its the other way around.


AWD runs all 4 wheels all time. for example the the company subaru build all track cars(AWD).

4WD splits torque wheels. than there is the lancer, skyline, and Talon.

 

[Delphic Reason]

Originally posted by akina_86
oh hey E-N its the other way around.


AWD runs all 4 wheels all time. for example the the company subaru build all track cars(AWD).

4WD splits torque wheels. than there is the lancer, skyline, and Talon.

Sorry akina, I don't mean to bust your balls again, but Sal is right. Here is some info you should check out. I think this is a pretty good explanation of the difference between the two.

AWD and 4WD

If this is not enough info for ya, or you don't agree with it, I can pull up many more links to prove it.

 

[akina_86]

oh well

 

[Seito4Counter]

ooo torsen... costs so much to install that type of system on a 4wd though..

 

[Street Fighter]

That's why you buy an WRX instead of a 4x4.

 

[exhaust_note]

street fighter... all of you avatars own 👍

 

[akina_86]

hey another question.

why is a skiline a 4WD and it transfers its torque to the rear wheel. and also why is the Lancer a 4WD and it transfers its torque to one wheel. can you tell me this.

the subaru imprezza runs AWD and it has full torque on all for wheels. if you look at the Eclipse GSX it runs on AWD, all four wheel run all time, which makes it lack top end speed. As for the Eagle Talon, it is a 4WD and switches to 2WD after it launches and kicks but on o-high speeds.

???????????

 

[exhaust_note]

the TSi and GSX use the same drivetrain system...

as for the skyline... im pretty sure they launch 4 wheels and do move more torque to the rear and the lancer uses 4WD and on the US version has torque at atleast 3 wheels...

 

[pergatory]

Originally posted by akina_86
hey another question.

why is a skiline a 4WD and it transfers its torque to the rear wheel. and also why is the Lancer a 4WD and it transfers its torque to one wheel. can you tell me this.

the subaru imprezza runs AWD and it has full torque on all for wheels. if you look at the Eclipse GSX it runs on AWD, all four wheel run all time, which makes it lack top end speed. As for the Eagle Talon, it is a 4WD and switches to 2WD after it launches and kicks but on o-high speeds.

???????????

I'm afraid your comparison over-simplifies the situation. All your examples are AWD cars. The Evo is no different from the Subarus, it has different types of differentials but the system is still the same. The Skyline is somewhat of an exception, it's fully RWD at a stop, but is still considered an AWD. However, all these cars are also 4WD, because AWD is the same as full-time 4WD. "4WD" encompasses both AWD and part-time 4WD.

 

[Delphic Reason]

Originally posted by pergatory
I'm afraid your comparison over-simplifies the situation. All your examples are AWD cars. The Evo is no different from the Subarus, it has different types of differentials but the system is still the same. The Skyline is somewhat of an exception, it's fully RWD at a stop, but is still considered an AWD. However, all these cars are also 4WD, because AWD is the same as full-time 4WD. "4WD" encompasses both AWD and part-time 4WD.

Thanks for clearing that up Perg.

 

[SupraFly]

Originally posted by Catch-my-Drift?
Power = all 4 wheels = more stable = better control = better angles

Exactly.

-Vash, self proclaimed trance god.

 

[F.Zamataki]

i tend to admit that 4wd drifting is kinda cheating lol, hell it is the best kinda drifting.....once uve mastered them all, u really see exactly why 4wd is better.
hell set ur VCD to 10% and you have the same drifting and driver input charachteristics as a FR, yet if you just go a touch over too much ur front wheels pull you through and fix things..theres no other comparison.
thats the w3rd.

P.S. dont get me wrong FR drifting ownzors i looove takin out my type x for a sesh or 2, but when i get in my lan evo, **** its not that its better, its just a whole diff story.

-zam!

 

[akina_86]

dammit i can believe you guys. you guys dont understand nothin. i have lots of experience with real life cars and have seen them in action at the drag strip. i dont know what wrong with you guys. do you or do you not understand the contratdiction. you can tell if a car is AWD if it lacks speed after it lauches(GSX). my bro race one and all it had was the launch but after, his GS-R started to pull heavily up to it. but as for the Eagle Talon, after the launch it just pulls and pulls.

think about it. it common sense i dont know why you guys dont understand. if it lack the top speed that means it is runnin power on all four wheels. for example, an 276hp subaru has 276hp but when it is dynoed it only come out with a 210hp at the wheel. do to the distributing of power to all four wheels it loses hp which lacks the top speed which means its a AWD.

But a 4WD, you can tell it is runnin two wheel drive when you see the way it picks up at high end. that is if you ever been in a real car to car drag race and i do know you guys have been if your this interested in cars.
in 2WD mode a 276hp can than use at least 257hp at the wheels. so if these two cars, the GSX and the TSi was to run head to head you will see an big difference in excelleration.

that is why people would rather tune an TSi instead of and GSX. GSX's are too difficult to get into 10's and 9's with out high modification. the TSi can do it with minor modifications.

thats all i gotta say. i know these things cause i have seen it. im not just sayin it. so believe what you want. i aint got nothin else to say.

 

[kikkoman]

Originally posted by akina_86
dammit i can believe you guys. you guys dont understand nothin. i have lots of experience with real life cars and have seen them in action at the drag strip. i dont know what wrong with you guys. do you or do you not understand the contratdiction. you can tell if a car is AWD if it lacks speed after it lauches(GSX). my bro race one and all it had was the launch but after, his GS-R started to pull heavily up to it. but as for the Eagle Talon, after the launch it just pulls and pulls.

think about it. it common sense i dont know why you guys dont understand. if it lack the top speed that means it is runnin power on all four wheels. for example, an 276hp subaru has 276hp but when it is dynoed it only come out with a 210hp at the wheel. do to the distributing of power to all four wheels it loses hp which lacks the top speed which means its a AWD.

But a 4WD, you can tell it is runnin two wheel drive when you see the way it picks up at high end. that is if you ever been in a real car to car drag race and i do know you guys have been if your this interested in cars.
in 2WD mode a 276hp can than use at least 257hp at the wheels. so if these two cars, the GSX and the TSi was to run head to head you will see an big difference in excelleration.

that is why people would rather tune an TSi instead of and GSX. GSX's are too difficult to get into 10's and 9's with out high modification. the TSi can do it with minor modifications.

thats all i gotta say. i know these things cause i have seen it. im not just sayin it. so believe what you want. i aint got nothin else to say.

after reading all that,
i still have no idea what your on about.

care to re-explain with making abit more sense this time?

 

[Danny]

Originally posted by kikkoman
sense

Sense? What is this foreign word?

 

[F.Zamataki]

fook guys he means that AWD trys to transfer even power to all 4 wheels thus losing WHP, and 4WD transfers most power to the wheels that most need it etc the rear wheels, thus creating more WHP.

 

[Danny]

Originally posted by F.Zamataki
fook guys

lol
I'm so childish.

 

[Ryen49]

Maybe this will help..
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/four-wheel-drive.htm
EDIT: http://auto.howstuffworks.com/differential1.htm

That To^^