Why can level 0 Bobs not drive?

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As soon as I tell him to speed up, he falls off the track!

If he`s trying to pass someone, he`ll screw it up & fall off the track!

If he actually does pass someone, he`ll make a great move, get in front, then totally miss the braking point & fall off the track!

When someone`s on his tail, he`ll mess up & fall off the track!

See a pattern here?

Managed to get him upto 9th at spa, halfway round the last lap, he screws up, hits the wall & spins, he finally comes home 11th!

WHY do level 0s have a complete lack of basic knowledge?

They must have a minimum standard of racecraft to have earned their racing licence, how come they just don`t show it?

aaaaarrrrrrggggghhhhh!!!!!!!
 
They have a minimum standard, yes. They have the braking, acceleration and cornering abilities you chose for them. You don't shove a "minimum standard" (National C licence), novice racing driver straight into a top-level national series like Super GT GT500...
 
Level 0 drivers are meant to be as described: 0 skill:dunce:

Rather self explanatory, even if you're new to B-spec.

Think before you post, please.
 
Yeah B-spec is incredibly frustrating at low levels, my Bobs didnt start driving competantly until around level 35. They seem to love downforce so try adding some aero parts and playing with the settings.
Also try to keep his mood neutral, too many commands will wind him up and he will make mistakes, too few and he will relax and drive like a granny. I always aim to keep the pointer around the centre of his mood bar, dont be scared to tell him to slow down, it may seem like a step back but it could save him spinning out.
 
Plus the race is meant for lvl 35 and not lvl 0 Bobs - don't make him run before he can cruise. They have basic skills, the rest they learn from the commands you send them.
 
To add to what Jarnac said, I built up my Bob's by putting them in ridiculously overpowered cars in the lower levels. It is B-spec after all, and unless you happen to be a SERIOUS B-spec racer, and not just grinding for cars and cash, this is the way to go to train up your Bob's.
If the race or series will allow it, have Bob driving the most ridiculous car that he is allowed. Yes, I have sent Bob out in a Ferrari, to run against Honda Civics, Mazda 323's and the like.
Remember, in the "training" phases, your objective is not to run fair with Bob, you can do that in A-Spec. Your objective is to make money, and fill the garage with cars.
 
Famine
They have a minimum standard, yes. They have the braking, acceleration and cornering abilities you chose for them. You don't shove a "minimum standard" (National C licence), novice racing driver straight into a top-level national series like Super GT GT500...
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I did, for the B-Spec seasonal
Through him into a fully tuned NSX
max'd the downforce, then reduced the BHP until on the limit

Bolted sports softs and waited until moisture 20%, and kept him 50% on anger, decreasing pace whenever near another car

He did well, finished something like 6th
He then won next time out with a bit of coaching, and then the 3rd time easily
 
Gil
To add to what Jarnac said, I built up my Bob's by putting them in ridiculously overpowered cars in the lower levels. It is B-spec after all, and unless you happen to be a SERIOUS B-spec racer, and not just grinding for cars and cash, this is the way to go to train up your Bob's.
If the race or series will allow it, have Bob driving the most ridiculous car that he is allowed. Yes, I have sent Bob out in a Ferrari, to run against Honda Civics, Mazda 323's and the like.
Remember, in the "training" phases, your objective is not to run fair with Bob, you can do that in A-Spec. Your objective is to make money, and fill the garage with cars.
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That's your objective, not everyone elses. I built up my bobs by learning how to control them and putting them in cars suited to the race at hand.
 
One thing I noticed back when I was still doing the regular B spec races on my way to level 40, is that the experience bar of the bobs that were put into high powered cars did not go up as fast as the bobs that had cars like the competition. This could just be me but the driver that I had to coach every lap of every race has way more experience than the driver who was put into a X2010 and grinded out the Dream Car Championship. The driver in the same cars was also at a lesser B spec level than the high powered car bob. Also bobs with an even temperament or slightly hot or cool were far easier to coach than bobs that were very cool or very hot.
 
Famine
They have a minimum standard, yes. They have the braking, acceleration and cornering abilities you chose for them. You don't shove a "minimum standard" (National C licence), novice racing driver straight into a top-level national series like Super GT GT500...
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Except they behave in the same exact way when you put them in a more appropriate car, like a stock Miata.
 
They just aren't used to racing I presume at that stage...nerves and the like. :lol:
 
Short Bus
Except they behave in the same exact way when you put them in a more appropriate car, like a stock Miata.
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Of course they do. They only have a minimum standard of abilities. They need to race to get better.

What I said was that you don't get a driver with a national C licence and no racing experience and put him into a top tier national racing series like Super GT GT500. Unless of course you enjoy rebuilding million dollar race cars every few miles. In GT we can get around it by doing exactly this and in one race they develop years' worth of training and ability...
 
Famine
Of course they do. They only have a minimum standard of abilities. They need to race to get better.

What I said was that you don't get a driver with a national C licence and no racing experience and put him into a top tier national racing series like Super GT GT500. Unless of course you enjoy rebuilding million dollar race cars every few miles. In GT we can get around it by doing exactly this and in one race they develop years' worth of training and ability...
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I agree with this. I mean, lvl 0 vs like what, lvl 25-30 drivers? Doesn't is also say that lvl 25 or above is recommended?
 
Not as far as I can tell. They just get better at driving.
 
Level 0 Bobs CAN however drive the X1 perfectly. Even after their strength is gone on lap 2, they still continue to drive perfectly. :sly:

This is useful for training new drivers since after the 60 laps at Grand Valley, the two level 0 Bobs jumped to levels 15 and 13. :D
 
the best way to level up bobs is the Indy 500. Choose all level 0's and an X2010-11 and they will hit level 20 straight up
 
I'm gonna get flamed for this, but wouldn't it be fun, if you could only use cars with the appropriate level for your bob(s)?

You would really have to educate him with lower-powered cars first, before you unleash him in some 800hp rocket. I personally think this would add to the RPG-character of b-spec.
 
turbolefty78
That's your objective, not everyone elses. I built up my bobs by learning how to control them and putting them in cars suited to the race at hand.
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It is indeed, because I buy video games to play. It seems to me that you think too much, when you could be playing.
B-spec is only slightly removed from the game playing itself.
It is a great way to generate cash and cars though.
I personally HATE b-spec. I understand why I think it was added.
I also understand that this is MY opinion and I mean no offense.
But in the grand scheme of things it pretty much is a good way to read a book, whilst monopolizing a TV, and letting the game, for all intents and purposes, play itself, with a tiny bit of direction from you.

Do you have other video games that require little to no intervention on your part? Do you enjoy them?
If yes, wouldn't it have been easier to just read a good book?
 
You can level up a Level 0 Bob insanely quickly if you're willing to sacrifice 45 minutes of your time by putting him in the car on the La Sarthe event. I ran a Level 0 and a Level 40 Bob in that event, let Zero Bob take the wheel for the first lap, kept his pace down and his temperament cool, then let Main Bob take over for the rest of the race. I was totally willing to lose this one, and badly, but ended up winning it - and Bob.0 went from Level 0 to Level 19 in one event!
 
I view a Level 0 Bob as basically equivalent (in racing terms, anyway) to a 16-year-old kid with a shiny new driver's license. All the enthusiasm in the world, and none of the skill. (That's not a swipe at young drivers, since I was once one myself, and made pretty much every mistake you could make behind the wheel)

And the more pressure you put on him, the worse he's going to do. A Level 0 Bob should pretty much never be pushed. He'll lose, he'll make mistakes, and he'll learn and improve, and by the time he hits Level 10 or so, he'll actually start acting like a racing driver. Not a very good one, mind you, but a driver nonetheless. :)
 

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