Why Do Racing Softs Work So Well In The Rain?

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Anyone else find this odd? Finally it happened..., the weather changed for me in the DCC Event at Monza! I'd gotten so used to it not changing that I have been running this event on Racing Softs.

Well right at the first turn it strikes me.., "holy crap.., it's raining.., and I'm running R-Softs on my Mazda 787B!!"

It wasn't a downpour like I'm getting at the Green Hell.., but still a steady rain and the roads were slick. The Racing Softs were like magic on this surface. When I ran Inters and R-Rain at the Ring my Mazda's ass end was all over the place, and there wasn't any notable difference between those two sets of tires.

Why do the R-Softs perform so well in the rain? Doesn't that essentially defeat the purpose of having the options of Inters/R-Rain?
 
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Ya, my first experience was in the FGT race at Suzuka. So I start off the race in rain and forget that I was running R-softs, and so I'm like crap, I can barely push this car. So I pit in the next lap and get some rain slicks on, and guess what, I'm worse off. So I pit in the next lap again and change back to race-softs.
 
Yes this is very strange. Hopefully they get a patch for this but it's not really that important as we can just use the rain tires in stead of "cheating".
 
I think track grip level isn't simulated in A-Spec. My theory is that each tyre has a certain grip level and you get that grip when you use the tyre regardless of the track condition. It would explain why racing softs work better than inters/wets in the rain. The rain doesn't lessen your grip with racing softs (or it may do slightly, but not enough to make inters/wets worthwile) so the grip level on the track is normal, like a dry track. The rain is just graphical effects.

I am probably wrong though.
 
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I think track grip level isn't simulated in A-Spec. My theory is that each tyre has a certain grip level and you get that grip when you use the tyre regardless of the track condition. It would explain why racing softs work better than inters/wets in the rain. The rain doesn't lessen your grip with racing softs (or it may do slightly, but not enough to make inters/wets worthwile) so the grip level on the track is normal, like a dry track. The rain is just graphical effects.

I am probably wrong though.
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Well thats obviously not true, I can't push the car near the level I can in dry conditions. You have a lot less traction in the rain regardless of which tires your running.
 
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Well thats obviously not true, I can't push the car near the level I can in dry conditions. You have a lot less traction in the rain regardless of which tires your running.
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Yeah I figured, that why i added the stuff in brackets. :p

Another theory, its an adaptation of my explanation before would be:
The rain is just graphic effects. However, the game has a weather setting for a race, and this determines how much grip the tyres give. If the weather is dry and sunny then the racing softs give say '10' grip, but if its raining then the same tyres give say '6' grip.

On a dry track slicks are obviously quicker than treaded tyres, so in the game they have a higher grip quantity. This grip is scaled down in proportion to the weather, where grip level decreases from dry to heavy rain. This would explain why racing softs in the rain have more grip than inters/wets.

This is guesswork btw.
 
Some kind of bug deriving from a very simplistic tire model. Ever wondered why the tire temperatures and pressure aren't shown? :)
 
Because Kaz was pondering death and how people handle it.
 
Go to practice, choose a wet track, set grip reduction to realistic and you're going to need rain tires. Badly.
So this feature works, but in A-Spec events they've turned it off. Probably would have been asking too much of people to choose rain tires when it rains...
 
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Anyone else find this odd? Why do the R-Softs perform so well in the rain?
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Yes. Because aspec default is low not real. There is a lot of discussion and testing on this in GTP.
 
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