Wondering why

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shadeyt
Hy guys

I have been playing on High speed ring lately and it seems to always put me second to third from the last %99 of the time, it's driving me nuts.

If I get past the traffic I can usually turn lap times with the top drivers of the day, but it's hard to compete when you start behind %80 of the pack. Any one know why this could be??:indiff:
 
If your car is faster than the other cars on the pack, you are usually put behind of everybody else.
 
arora
it's the pp, just lower that till you get the pole if you need it ;)
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People that do that all the time do get annoying though....
 
Blitz187
People that do that all the time do get annoying though....
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I agree, afterall people doing this is probably why you always started at the back, if you do it, you are helping to annoy others who don't do it.
 
I don't mind starting last so much as I am more interested in having fun battles rather than coming first neccesarily. But what I hate most is starting last and having a rolling start where the gap is so large and having only 3 laps in the intermediate races. This way you have no chance of catching up with the leaders even if you're catching up at a couple of seconds a lap. It just end up being a time trial when the not so good drivers are out of the way.
 
arora
it's the pp, just lower that till you get the pole if you need it ;)
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I think this is a good little trick especially for tracks such as London were clean overtaking opportunities are hard to come by.

Will a car on pole with 649PP stand a better chance of a race win than say one with 650PP starting at the back, I think so....
 
shadey
Hy guys

I have been playing on High speed ring lately and it seems to always put me second to third from the last %99 of the time, it's driving me nuts.

If I get past the traffic I can usually turn lap times with the top drivers of the day, but it's hard to compete when you start behind %80 of the pack. Any one know why this could be??:indiff:
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I’m usually second, though that was to give the old codgers :nervous: a head start :grumpy:
 
Jack
With you driving it, no ;)

Dont see the point in changing PP to be honest. Stick with maximum PP and dont cheat.
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:lol: Your funny, funny looking. ;)

I agree, running 649pp to get an advantage is not cool. 👍
 
I prefer to start in the back at Suzuka and Fuji. It's the only way to avoid being punted off the track in turn one
 
Cohiba100
I prefer to start in the back at Suzuka and Fuji. It's the only way to avoid being punted off the track in turn one
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I agree, and at Fuji you need every PP point, my argument was more towards a 3 lap sprit race around London :)
 
GTP_Grenade
As with all forms of racing, there are loophole's too find and exploit ;)
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Theres no point. So you would rather pick the fastest car and start with 1 PP less to race nobody and win.

Sounds fun...
 
Jack
Theres no point. So you would rather pick the fastest car and start with 1 PP less to race nobody and win.

Sounds fun...
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How would a car with 1PP less be the fastest car :confused:

It would have track position and nothing else.
 
I didnt say it was the fastest but most racers, who race online, pick the fastest car of the PP.

For example, back at Suzuka 750, a GTLM-Squad member pick the fastest car (a GTLM), put it to 749PP to start 1st and use to win. Having the track position and clear air gives a big advantage.

I can understand its annoying having to start near the back of the pack, but why do you need to cheat!? Something to prove? Enjoy the racing for what it is and prove yourself, if you feel the need, in offical competitions.
 
A tuned Clio with 649 PP is still faster than anything else at 650 PP around Suzuka, driving skills being equal
 
Jack
Back at Suzuka 750, a GTLM-Squad member picked the fastest car (a GTLM), put it to 749PP to start 1st and use to win. Having the track position and clear air gives a big advantage.

I can understand its annoying having to start near the back of the pack, but why do you need to cheat!?
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I can understand where you're coming from I really can, you want good clean fair races (and so do I) but were as you see lowering the PP as a way of cheating, I do not.

This could go on for ever and does'nt really help the OP with his original question so I'll stop now.
 
I also don't see as cheating. If start you in first, it doesn't guarantee a win, I mean you still have to worry about punters. Until qualifing happens, I continue running one less pp to get any advantage on the track that I can. There is no reason for me to start 12 seconds behind the leader, if I don't have to.
 
TofuStoreDrift
I also don't see as cheating. If start you in first, it doesn't guarantee a win, I mean you still have to worry about punters. Until qualifing happens, I continue running one less pp to get any advantage on the track that I can. There is no reason for me to start 12 seconds behind the leader, if I don't have to.
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I see it as cheating, why should you start at the front, droping 1pp to get at the front is wrong IMO.

TofuStoreDrift
it doesn't guarantee a win
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It sure will help though.

TofuStoreDrift
I mean you still have to worry about punters
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And you got less punters to worry about starting at the front. :dopey:
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Interesting to me no one has mentioned running a quali session at the start of each race, or has that been stated?

Like it was in earlier gt's......... everyone running around with a random start so you get a fast lap in, like in 10 min shots or something?
 
GTP_Hyperspeed
I see it as cheating, why should you start at the front, droping 1pp to get at the front is wrong IMO.
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When you cut across the track, you get a penalty. When you bump someone, you get a penalty. When you ride the wall, you get a penalty. All that happens when you cheat. Reducing pp by one point, you don't incur a penalty, so it most not be cheating. Until the events mandate that you have to use 750pp, it won't be cheating. Ofcourse if they got rid of the reverse poll they have now, it wouldn't be a problem, but no one would be passing either.
 
arora
Interesting to me no one has mentioned running a quali session at the start of each race, or has that been stated?

Like it was in earlier gt's......... everyone running around with a random start so you get a fast lap in, like in 10 min shots or something?
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One of the groups I race with takes advantage of the pp system to set up a qualifying system. racers run free laps and submit their best time. The grid is then set up by adjusting the pps of each car. Those with the fastest times get assigned a slightly lower pp to get to the front of the grid.

adjusting you pp is NOT cheating. It is fully within the rules of the game and is open for anyone to do. It is not taking advantage of a glitch. You could call it strategy. You can get to the front of the grid by dropping your pp but then your car isn't as fast. 1pp won't necessarily get you to the front of the grid.

While it is not cheating, whether or not it is a good idea or not is a different question altogether. I can see it for the beginners/intermediate races where you can't adjust pp. Weaker cars then have some chance. I don't know a lot about racing in real life but I've never heard of a race that allows you to start closer to the front if you make the car not as fast. But since it allows us to set up races with qualifying despite the poor online implementation, I guess I can't complain.
 
Im not sure how you dont see it as cheating. You are using the point system in a way to benefit yourself, when everybody else is using maximum PP. The benefit you gain is massive:
  • You have a clean run into turn 1.
  • You can take the racing line / the line you want.
  • You dont have to give space to anyone as there is nobody around.
  • You rarley have to defend from over cars.
  • You have clean air.

I can keep adding. From starting to the rear or mid pack, you do have to worry about those things. You cant take your required line.

If you want to cheat, please dont take part in GTP Events.
 
Jack
Im not sure how you dont see it as cheating. You are using the point system in a way to benefit yourself, when everybody else is using maximum PP. The benefit you gain is massive:
  • You have a clean run into turn 1.
  • You can take the racing line / the line you want.
  • You dont have to give space to anyone as there is nobody around.
  • You rarley have to defend from over cars.
  • You have clean air.

I can keep adding. From starting to the rear or mid pack, you do have to worry about those things. You cant take your required line.

If you want to cheat, please dont take part in GTP Events.
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Exactly. 👍

It also takes a lot of skill to start from the back and work your way to the front, passing the slower cars. Which funnily enough are often the ones who start with 1 or 2 less pp. ;)
 
I like Zathra's idea though, if you have a group of friends trying to race at the same time lowering pp is accepted because you all are doing it to get the grid you want.

I've done this before on a small scale ie with just one other and we'd run way less pp, yes we'd be at the start of the grid but we'd move aside. Then we could race one on one and not mess with the punt and cut ;)
 

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