WOW - My first ever drift experience...

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Firstly, I wanna thank TankSpanker for his awesome write up on Drift settings...

I tryed it out for the first time yesterday with a Silvia S Spec... Can't remember the test track but it's an original circuit, the one with the 2nd gear turn that crosses itself again (So it does a full loop)...

Anyway, So I start off and the first corner is a 3rd gear right hander and I take it perfectly, perfect drift, nice and sideways good speed... Then it all goes downhill, lol... The next corner is a left sweep followed by a right sweep onto the main straight... I get it left, then right, then left, then right, then all the way round... lol... I spun out... From then on it was a nightmare, Spin after spin with one or two good drifts...

Anyway, the point of this is that I am really excited about this drifting and it gives me something to do when I bored of racing... lol.

My problem is this, I can't seem to get the car sideways going into the corner, I have my settings set up exactly like TankSpanker said, but I can't get that initial sidaways movement going into the turn, Once I hit the apex I can get it out, but I need to do it the whole turn...

Any tipw on how to do this guys?

ViX
 
ViXeN
My problem is this, I can't seem to get the car sideways going into the corner, I have my settings set up exactly like TankSpanker said, but I can't get that initial sidaways movement going into the turn, Once I hit the apex I can get it out, but I need to do it the whole turn...
ViX

If I knew which track this was, I could help. All I can tell you is that you may be overdoing it with the gas and that you should counter steer a bit less...

...wonder how long before Lockmeister *COUGH* i mean Swift sees this... :nervous:
 
Why would he lock this???

I know that there are videos on this sort of thing, but since I'm at work I can't download them...

Also, I'm asking fellow players for help here, so I figured it was the right place?

Anyway, My biggest problem is getting the car to go sidways, once it's sideways I'm ok at drifting it...
 
I think you were on Autumn Ring. just use a lot of weight transfer. you'll get used to the physics...just practice.
 
to get the back end out before the turn, i suggest using the feint method.
ill give en example on how to do it.
say your coming up on a right hander.
you need to time this right, otherwise you will mess your line up.
you first go right,left,right then begin countersteering as you gain angle.
OR you could just go left, then right and start countersteering when the time is right.
this is somewhat advanced, but you should get the hold of it in no time.
pratice is the key. i do alot of it, and im still not perfect.(no one will be though)
so just keep at it, and it should come natural to you.

hope this helped.
 
That's what I thought too...

When I approach a left hand bend, I swing right before turning left, that normally gets the back out good, but my timing is 99% off, lol... I reckon thats just practice...
 
Suzuki
to get the back end out before the turn, i suggest using the feint method.
ill give en example on how to do it.
say your coming up on a right hander.
you need to time this right, otherwise you will mess your line up.
you first go right,left,right then begin countersteering as you gain angle.
OR you could just go left, then right and start countersteering when the time is right.
this is somewhat advanced, but you should get the hold of it in no time.
pratice is the key. i do alot of it, and im still not perfect.(no one will be though)
so just keep at it, and it should come natural to you.

hope this helped.

Now that's the advise I was looking for, hehe, Thanks man...

I have no problem drifting in real life, After NFSu2 came out I decided to try to drift my race car one practice session, and I got it right pretty good... Very difficult though as the race car has a welded rear diff to stop wheel spin, hehe... But I could go around a hairpin sideways quiet well and keep it there. But it's way hard in the game. hehe
 
........and keep on practicing.....

It's cool to see someone that thinks EXACTLY the same as when I began 5 months ago, I thought EXACTLY THE SAME OF IT!👍
Good to see that excitement still exists with drift beginners:tup:
 
ViXeN
Very difficult though as the race car has a welded rear diff to stop wheel spin, hehe... But I could go around a hairpin sideways quiet well and keep it there. But it's way hard in the game. hehe

You could always fit an adjustable slippy diff on your GT4 drift car and set it as tight as it goes to replicate a welded diff, but you may then get horrible levels of understeer, esp. in tighter corners, as I am sure you noticed in your racecar...
 
Understeer is my problem here, hehe...

The race car is a '83 Mazda RX2 Capella 11B Rotary, it's light and FR so oversteer was a problem when I started racing it... I had the diff welded to correct the over steer and allow better acceleration coming out of corners...

Drifting the race car was a nightmare to get it sideways, but for me it was easy due to 3 years racing experience and the fact that you can actually feel what's happening to the car and not just see it like in the game...

Maybe a good force feedback steering set will do the trick?
 
ViXeN
Firstly, I wanna thank TankSpanker for his awesome write up on Drift settings...

heh, you're welcome, and I'm glad you found it helpful. But don't forget that Swift contributed a few sections to that reference also.


ViXeN
My problem is this, I can't seem to get the car sideways going into the corner, I have my settings set up exactly like TankSpanker said, but I can't get that initial sidaways movement going into the turn, Once I hit the apex I can get it out, but I need to do it the whole turn...

Any tipw on how to do this guys?

ViX

well, first would be to remember that the settings I suggest in the reference are at very best, just a rough estimate or bracket which is deemed more-or-less typical when it comes to drift settings. Don't be afraid of experimenting outside of those bounds. If it works, it works. Don't worry about what some guy from canada with some weird... tank-something-or-other name said. :sly:
(but keep it reasonable - don't set rear camber to like, 8 or some stoopid thing. Oh, and aids off, you learn quicker)
When you have a capable car setup that you're comfortable with just stick with it and practice. Don't go back and fiddle with something everytime a turn doesnt go the way you planned. Understanding how your car is going to react to different conditions will only come from making a lot of mistakes when you start out. Don't let yourself get frustrated, you'll be a better drifter for it in the end.

anyways, Suzuki seems to have hit the nail on the head here. Just leave yourself a lot of room prior to the turn when you start the feint. 👍

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oh, and a force feedback wheel isnt necessarily the answer. Of course this is a matter of personal preference, and being that you have some actual racing experience it might feel more natural to you. But, $150 is a lot to spend on an uncertainty. If you can find an opportunity to try it before you buy it, I would certainly urge you to do so.
 
rallyeditionIII
the track sounds like if you go to arcade mode and do time trial on Trial Mountain. its the first two drifts that lead onto the opening straight.
take a look here
ViXeN
I tryed it out for the first time yesterday with a Silvia S Spec... Can't remember the test track but it's an original circuit, the one with the 2nd gear turn that crosses itself again (So it does a full loop)..
in trial mountian, there is no loop period.
the only track that i know of that has a loop is autumn ring.
 
Hahah I know exactly what Vixen means about the first drifting experience, but then it gets so much better after improving. When you start going completely sideways and controlling it... *takes a deep breath* there's no way to explain that feeling =Þ
 
Hows this for my first weekend of Drifting...???

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That looks very promising buddy, keep it up, and you will do this all the time lol:tup: Keep posting up your progress at least:tup:
 
Thanks dude, ;) I think the fact that I race in real life helps a lot with understanding what the car does when you do certain things... And as I said, I only started drifting in GT4 on Friday night, ;) I can link certain bends together but I'm still struggling on the sharp turns..

Any advise for the sharp 2nd gear bends?
 
yeah it's ok, when on autumn ring, try drifting the whole track, this is a verry easy track to drift, or grand valley speedway, good track to try your settings... the tunnel is verry good to try how long you can drift it ;) also amuse s2000 gt is a car that drifts verry easily... but just find out yourself, goodluck :)
 
Yeah well, when you ave 2 geared corners you can link, you really need to look how wide the track is and stuff, I can't tell much right now, I can only say that you must go in a drift relatively quickly and then countersteer very quickly too. Maybe in a heavier gear helps, instead of going into 2d gear, 3d gear sometimes helps me out too, try it. And tell me what corners your talking about:p
 
I think I got it down now... I use 3rd gear and let the torque pull the car around the corner. Not so much gas either as too much spins me out...
 
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