"You don't own the freaking road!" (SPECIAL TOPIC)

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Originally posted by milefile
I wanted to speed up and make his idiotic maneuver impossible, which probably would've driven him into the median, but the passive, chicken-**** in front of me timidly slowed down and let this jerk through.

I hear you. I get more frustrated with the timid softies that reward ultra-aggressive driving with silent capitulation than I do the aggressive meatheads themselves. After all, they make it possible for the jerks to get away with it.


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Originally posted by JohnBM01
I guess I can just say that people have to be careful around such drivers. And the drivers in question just have to adjust their driving styles. While I'm watching my demise, I didn't mean to offend anyone. You know that. I've seen cars that were probably banged up due to rough driving. Headlights busted. Fenders dinged. Wheels missing or damaged. Whatever. You just have to be careful.

And as I said, I did not mean to get mad at anyone over anything. I'm not perfect. I never said I was. And I know I'm not. The primary point was about drivers who think they own the road. I don't want to be reminded as to why I didn't do so well in other forums, and I love this one to death. I don't want to be reminded of my past. Everytime I do something wrong, I really begin to hate myself, and I've had my history of rough times, and oppurtunities lost. Sure, my introduction ticked a few people off, but all of us are human beings and that opinions vary as much as the weather. Some people may think I'm just whining, but as someone said once on this site: "even monkeys fall from trees." I just wanted to create a topic without losing respect towards anyone. I've learned my lessons on forum sites. I've been more expressive and especially on here, I'm trying to come up with a variety of topics because I love to communicate with people. It makes me feel better to be around people who are available to share my interests or accept/decline issues of mention.

So, anyhow... sure, I don't have a driver's license, but while I'm picked up (by the way, I'm sure there are other people my age (21) who just haven't gone for a license), I've seen rough drivers as they daresay threaten my parents' van while driving. Whether passenger or driver, in one way or another, we will experience people who make stupid mistakes on the road, especially those who think the road is their race track, and they have their own race car to do business with. And forget my introduction. It can be a European exotic, Japanese tuner, American ground-pounder, as long as the driver is a nutcase, that person will think he/she owns the road. So, paying attention at the wheel is important. If you're a passenger and the driver isn't really paying attention to danger, alert the driver. That is all. That is all I'm trying to say.

So, any more cases of times where you just want to tell nutty drivers "you don't own the freaking road!?"

Since we're picking on you a little bit here John, there's another word you might want to look into. Brevity. A lot of your posts can be summarized to a fraction of their considerable girth. It is as much an imposition on your readers to use a paragraph when a sentence will do nicely as unintelligible grammar.

This is not meant as a flame but more as constructive criticism and I'm not against long posts so long as they are full of content.


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Originally posted by Race Idiot

They think they can take on anything, i've seen cars like that trying to intimidate everything on the road. They'll stick to your rear end like anything. If this happens i'll just drive slower and slower just to piss them off.

My rule is that if I can't see their license plate over my window-mounted brake light, I set the cruise control at the speed limit. And if they even consider passing me, they get the drag race of their life.
 
Originally posted by M5Power
My rule is that if I can't see their license plate over my window-mounted brake light, I set the cruise control at the speed limit. And if they even consider passing me, they get the drag race of their life.

I don't have cruise control - but I agree with every bit of that.


I had a close encounter the other day. I will recount my tale:

I went for a little jaunt, to see if I could get a decent photo of my car with the Wye Crown (chalk carving) in the background - turns out I can't. Bugger.

Anyway, there's me, driving back from Wye. I decide to open it up a bit on the A28 - nothing daft though. It's a fairly interesting A-road (note for Americans - one lane each way) with a couple of windy bits which are actually dead straight - you can drive in a straight line if the road is clear, with no worries.

So I'm taking advantage of the straight-lines when I spot a Peugeot 406 Estate ahead of me, about 400 yards away but getting closer fast - I'm doing about 50% more than his speed. He's following the lines of the road, I'm not.

I'm about 100 yards behind this guy and decide that the road is clear enough to pass, so I put my indicator on and move out appropriately.

Pop quiz, hotshot - there's someone coming up behind you on an open road doing 50% more than your speed and is about to pass you. You're a responsible road user - what do you do? What DO you do?


Yep - he decides at that point that he's no longer going to follow the lines of the road, and instead follow the straight-line. And I'm 25 yards behind him.

I passed the little **** anyway - but I can't BELIEVE someone would actively try to block someone else from passing them at A-road speeds on a clear road. What a dildo!


(I should add that I wasn't inside the speed limit, but I was driving, in every other respect, responsibly - and with the clear road, clear visibility, no side roads and lack of housing I believe that my speed was within the "safe" limit for the time, if not the actual limit).
 
We just got ran off the road by a Neon. A truck cut us off earlier today. My Aunt is so pissed off, she' planning to get one of these:

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some years ago an idiot driving a 911 targa (rare car here, of course) was driving like the quoted ricers, I think he believed that because he had a 911, he could do this. thing is, he was like 45 or 50 years old, and on the phone. he passed us hard within an inch of the stepwayand pulled hard again over the intersection, only to put his brakes to test because he didn't even care that a bus was going to pass before him. he braked hard and barely missed the bus' side. his cellphone went right trough the side window, into the street. he got down (it was a redlight) to pick it up and everyone behind him began hinking, yelling and laughing. I enjoyed that one.

Cano

and the porsche was really, really cool.
 
Cool car, nutty driver. Don't you just love (hate) that? I often tend to think that people who drive like they are daredevils should have their license suspended. My parents and I encountered many of them. In fact, this past Saturday, there was a wreck when we were going back to Houston from Pearland. I couldn't see it, but some people just drive so daringly, pretending that other drivers are invinsible. Well if you rear end someone and damn near end their life, guess what? You're going to get yourself a court case. Better hire a good lawyer. A VERY good one.
 
John, you made some excellent topics, however you must understand the difference between knowing the path and walking the path. Once you're holding the steering wheel and pressing the accelation pedal, you'll begin to understand why there are such manuvers in the first place. Being initally mature does not help you drive safe, either. In order to truly appreciate the cars, you'll have to overcome the seduction of the car's abilities, be it the suspension, hi-powered engine, or both. There is always an urge in a person's mind to drive the car to its limits; it's just that people like to do it in the streets - to them it's about convenience. For the youngsters, they're more inexperienced and just as immature, but if you have a busy schedule, and the nearest race track is 300 miles away, it is virtually impossible for them to supress the urges - regardless of race, gender and age.

Also, I'm surprised you didn't mention road rage. It seems that you're so close to mention the issue, but you didn't. Here's an example; The "redrum" involves a truck driver and a biker.

http://www.scorcher.org/crobertson/chris.html
 
Originally posted by cpl_richie
Dude, that's not just inner Sydney. It seems to be everywhere in Sydney (and Australia too I guess). I think the problem is that some bike riders have a total disregard for the road rules and motorists just hate seeing them get away with it.

I just keep my bike riding to sunday mornings on nice quiet suburban streets.

Even though i am a bike rider, i agree as well. when the light goes red, you see cyclists racing thru the lights as if it doesnt apply to them, this is totally reckless and can cause severe accidents, no wonder motorists hate cyclists. On the other hand when im riding my bike i equally experience harsh treatment from motorists. im flyin down a hill at breakneck speeds then this cossie pulls out from a slip road causing me to hit the brakes, how annoying, just because the road is free it doesnt mean the pavement isnt. So sometimes motorists feel they own the road then other times the cyclist feel they own the road, its all relative.
 
Dude, auto-cross is way mroe skillful than NASCAR and face it, how many Amercians RACE in Nascar? Hardly any compared to the number of ameteur auto-crossers. I'm currently helping a friend of mine's dad build an Autocross car out a an old Mk. II escort running of a 1.3 L engine. It'd mightened be the most powerful car around but when Sam (the guys dad) get's goin on that six-speed he can take cars with alot more power when in the hands of some poser.
 
I have witnessed many occasions of reckless driving. i will recount one that happened a few weeks back. we were leggin it down the Hendon way,(A-road)(my dad was drivin his M5) going past Brent Cross (Finchley Road direction), then out of the blue, blue highlights start flashin us from behind(we were in the fast lane), my dad pulls over into the slow lane, only for a spankingly modded E36 to swing in front of us. My dad got pissed with the way the E36 clamps down infront of us( i mean we nearly went in to his rear) and in turn my dad swings into the fast lane and gasses to overtake him. We pull in close infont of him, to hear the driver blaring " bloody M5 maniac", my dad then applies the brakes and we force him to do the same, he tries the fast lane but my dad beats him to it. By now this guy is yellin from his Bima and honking like mad.

i got a kick out of the way my old man handled the E36 it was hilarious, but it was the E36s fault as my dad allowed him to pas us but he abused his chance by annying my dad.
 
Originally posted by M5Power
My rule is that if I can't see their license plate over my window-mounted brake light, I set the cruise control at the speed limit. And if they even consider passing me, they get the drag race of their life.

In that case I can condone that, but when someone who simply can't be passed does that, it just irritates me, it really does.

No one has done it to me (fortunately), but in a couple of occasions when my dad was the one driving I've seen idiots who are below the speed limit enough so that they should be passed, yet when my dad went on the left lane to get around them they all of a sudden had this urgent need to speed up.

I was riding with a friend of mine once and when this old VW Beetle was coming up to pass him he just went "Yeah right." and floored it, the VW passed him anyways (revving mildly high in 4th by then) I told him "dude, what the **** are you doing? That's moronic." He just laughed.

A wonderful thing, pride.
 
Originally posted by Sleek Stratos
In that case I can condone that, but when someone who simply can't be passed does that, it just irritates me, it really does.

No one has done it to me (fortunately), but in a couple of occasions when my dad was the one driving I've seen idiots who are below the speed limit enough so that they should be passed, yet when my dad went on the left lane to get around them they all of a sudden had this urgent need to speed up.

Fair point, but I never go below the speed limit, so when someone does come up on my bumper, I think they deserve the "cruise control and drag race" treatment.
 
Originally posted by milefile
I love cruise control. It shows me how erratic other drivers are. Speeding up and slowing down for no reason.

I find most people don't actually use it.
 
Here in Houston, there are plans to come out with live cameras tracking down which drivers are rough at intersections. Will it be a success? Perhaps. I mean, it's simple. You drive like crap, you're on camera, you get mailed for charges.
 
I just drove to Swindon and back today. On the way there - about 10 miles short of J16 westbound on the M4 - I noticed a green 53-reg (note for non-Brits - this means the car is no more than 10 months old) Focus hatchback swerving about within the middle lane, occasionally straddling the left-hand lane. I passed the car at a very wide berth and didn't think much more of it.

2 miles later she comes past at 90mph+ then slows down enough that I can pass her again within the next mile - she's still swerving and straddling (fnarr). So curious me, I decided to draw alongside her to see what the deal was.





SHE WAS READING A BOOK.


Yes - this idiotic, arrogant woman was reading a book whilst driving at up to 90mph on the M4. I gave a nice long blast of the horn to wake the ***** up, then accelerated off - but I could see she was still doing the same thing in my rear-view mirror.

Stupid, stupid tart.
 
Originally posted by Famine
SHE WAS READING A BOOK.

At least she's not watching TV. I have a DVD player in my car that works in 'drive.'

Cell phones are my problem - particularly in New York City. This is probably the hardest place in the hemisphere to drive, and it's no easier when you're talking on a phone.
 
Originally posted by Famine
I just drove to Swindon and back today. On the way there - about 10 miles short of J16 westbound on the M4 - I noticed a green 53-reg (note for non-Brits - this means the car is no more than 10 months old) Focus hatchback swerving about within the middle lane, occasionally straddling the left-hand lane. I passed the car at a very wide berth and didn't think much more of it.

2 miles later she comes past at 90mph+ then slows down enough that I can pass her again within the next mile - she's still swerving and straddling (fnarr). So curious me, I decided to draw alongside her to see what the deal was.





SHE WAS READING A BOOK.


Yes - this idiotic, arrogant woman was reading a book whilst driving at up to 90mph on the M4. I gave a nice long blast of the horn to wake the ***** up, then accelerated off - but I could see she was still doing the same thing in my rear-view mirror.

Stupid, stupid tart.

That happened here in Las Vegas. Some guy was reading a book while driving his Sentra on the freeway and nearly scratched my sister's car. My sister got so pissed off she cutted in front of the Sentra with her Porsche and braked. They collided, and my sister blamed it on that guy for "not looking on the road and reading a book". Other cars drove by and honked. It was a good act. What book was that woman reading anyway?
 
I just read this whole thread and after a mere 2 years driving, I can relate to most of what each every one of you has said.
I could list several things I saw only today on a 20 mile journey. The funniest of which was a 50 something driving down the middle lane with her interior mirror angled so when she looked in it, she saw not the queue of traffic assembling behind her, but her mahogony face gawping back at her as she applied her 4th coat of paint to it. (btw, for teh benefit of Americans, we aren't allowed to undertake in England.)

I remember the most satisfying punishment i've ever managed to deal to an over-eager-beaver: You know the people who glide down the wrong lane towards a busy roundabout, bypassing the queue of.. /there's no point explaining - you know exactly what they do. He came haring round the outside of me and tried to dive into the gap that had been left by the car in front moving slightly. Naturally I darted forwards to stop him, which left his car poking directly at the corner of mine. He sat there blocking the traffic in the outside lane waiting for me to move forward with the creep of the jam so he could pull in behind me. But I waited and made him reverse away from my car. I paralelled him as he tried again to get into the gap now in front of me. The lady behind me knew exactly what I was doing and kept nice and tight behind. He was hilariously angry and had to take the first exit. He tried to do a wheelspin but his shiny new golf just vibrated forward as the balloon like tyres hopped around a bit on the tarmac. I put my thumb up to the woman behind me and I could see her laughing too :) 9 times out of 10 those situations end in some puss letting them in as milefile and mspec said.

edit - I think my ultimate car would be an old t5 with matte black bodywork. Then i'd take a bat to it and pull off the rubber strips and bumpers round the front and edges and replace it with course sandpaper.
 
Recently as my stepfather was taking me to school, this old Mazda van had the driver look like he was trying to fix his radio, going at slow speed. Had he came to a big stop, me and my dad would have been mad as hell. Maybe even hurt.
 
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