X2010 vs X2011

acascianelli · Oct 18 2011, 9:00 AM #1

For those lucky enough to be able to purchase the new downloadable content, how does the new X2011 compare to the X2010? I was looking through youtube expecting to see a drag race between the two already, but it seems nobody has uploaded one yet. I'm just curious to see how the aerodynamic improvements have helped the already ridiculous X2010 be even faster.

TeggD · Oct 18 2011, 9:02 AM #2

Its madness

noisiaturismo · Oct 18 2011, 9:02 AM #3

Less downforce, more speed, 2 pp more

Stephen220378 · Oct 18 2011, 9:22 AM #4

acascianelli

For those lucky enough to be able to purchase the new downloadable content, how does the new X2011 compare to the X2010? I was looking through youtube expecting to see a drag race between the two already, but it seems nobody has uploaded one yet. I'm just curious to see how the aerodynamic improvements have helped the already ridiculous X2010 be even faster.

It's pretty much the same, in fact at Monza where I test my cars I've lapped almost 2 seconds slower than I have with the X2010, taking into account a braking miscalculation by myself at the first chicane where I braked far too early I'd say that there'll be nothing between them when I put in a clean lap.

TankAss95 · Oct 18 2011, 9:24 AM #5

Could one state the maximum velocity of such vehicle?

eran0004 · Oct 18 2011, 9:28 AM #6

TankAss95

Could one state the maximum velocity of such vehicle?

I did an online Red Bull race on Daytona earlier today, it seems like the X2011 is a bit faster than the X2010, but the difference is very small.

Maximum speed 510+ km/h with slipstream. About 480+ km/h without slipstream.

Machate-man · Oct 18 2011, 9:31 AM #7

eran0004

I did an online Red Bull race on Daytona earlier today, it seems like the X2011 is a bit faster than the X2010, but the difference is very small.

Maximum speed 510+ km/h with slipstream. About 480+ km/h without slipstream.

SO it's no faster than the original? Perhaps it accelerates faster?
The original goes 480 w/o draft

Stephen220378 · Oct 18 2011, 9:33 AM #8

TankAss95

Could one state the maximum velocity of such vehicle?

Tested at Indianapolis, original settings untouched, it bounces off the limiter at 299mph. Max speed according to the gear ratio setting page is 311mph.

sporkafife · Oct 18 2011, 12:05 PM #9

Maybe because it as more aerodynamic features, it will actually have a slightly lower top speed but be slightly better in high speed corners? (something the X2010 was pretty amazing at anyway) Just a theory, I'm at Uni now so I have no time to sit and play on my beloved GT5

Zenith · Oct 18 2011, 12:26 PM #10

The driver's skill and the design of the tracks are still the biggest limitation for the X cars. One cannot simply take a 350mph feather with infinite downforce and expect it to go around a track made for modern-day race cars.

leepangfu · Oct 18 2011, 12:36 PM #11

It's a lot faster. Mine now has 1634 hp. Compared The top speed of the X2010 and X2011 without drafting on SSR7 with similar setups(low downforce, no camber and toe). The X2011 beat it by more than 20 km/h

X2011: 513 km/h
X2010: 492 km/h

Rods · Oct 18 2011, 1:09 PM #12

Zenith013

The driver's skill and the design of the tracks are still the biggest limitation for the X cars. One cannot simply take a 350mph feather with infinite downforce and expect it to go around a track made for modern-day race cars.

Agreed!

It's very easy to overturn into corners or brake way too early.

When I'm driving the X I always remember the Top Gear ep in which Jeremy drives a Lotus 125 and states that the hardest thing about it was having to convince your brain that a curve is actually do-able at such a high speed. With the RBX it's the same thing. Even when you're handling it well it's hard to convince yourself to brake so late or to turn so far in to reach the apex perfectly...

dwon63 · Oct 30 2011, 4:14 PM #13

It seems like at low speeds the X2011 has a vicious snap oversteer. I did a practice lap at Fuji and at the end of the long straight as I was braking to make the sharp right turn, as soon as i started to turn the wheel, the car snapped right actually jumping over the little strip of land and landed facing in the right direction. It was basically a snap 180 degree turn. I never had the x2010 do that. And at high speeds it has a very light understeer.

TankAss95 · Oct 30 2011, 5:00 PM #14

Rods

Agreed!

It's very easy to overturn into corners or brake way too early.

When I'm driving the X I always remember the Top Gear ep in which Jeremy drives a Lotus 125 and states that the hardest thing about it was having to convince your brain that a curve is actually do-able at such a high speed. With the RBX it's the same thing. Even when you're handling it well it's hard to convince yourself to brake so late or to turn so far in to reach the apex perfectly...

I remember him saying "I've driven a car before with lots of power, I've driven a car before with very little weight, I've driven a car before with a lot if downforce, but I've never driven a car until now with all of the 3 combined." (Quote not taken word by word, it was something like that)
The X2010 + X2011 are both made with extreme performance figures of the 3 variables of performance. Very few people, if anyone at all, can drive the two cars at their peak range of potential (>90%) consistently. That's why I find humour in finding requests of tunes with these machines. What is the point?

WHO_DAT_62 · Oct 30 2011, 5:02 PM #15

It's much more stable. Feels more like a fast f10.

Slashfan · Oct 30 2011, 6:13 PM #16

More stable, downforce, more power and higher top speed. The X1 used to fight to hit 285 and the X2 lays down power until 301 then keeps slowly climbing.

Paul2448 · Oct 30 2011, 6:25 PM #17

I found it faster.

Testing at Deep Forrest, the X2011 is .4 seconds faster then the X2010 with a 35.4XX lap, but at the Daytona Road Course it ran a 57.4XX on my third lap, compared to my X2010's best lap of 59.6XX over several dozen tries (Both on RS with a tuned transmition)

It feels a lot better in corners and underbraking, overall, and has a higher topspeed.

Machate-man · Oct 30 2011, 11:19 PM #18

The X2010 seems more suited to cornering and braking, given a comparison between the two when both have full downforce.

However, the X2011 is undeniably faster in a straight line and 50/50 downforce (lowest), going 500+km/h and having ~100 hp more than the X2010.

CNSpots1 · Oct 30 2011, 11:33 PM #19

well. for example, i hit a maximum speed of 305MPH in the X2010, and i hit 321MPH in the X2011. that alone is a huge difference.

WITHOUT DRAFTING

Exorcet · Oct 31 2011, 7:13 AM #20

Every track I've driven the X11 on, it's been faster than the original. I'd say it is better in every way, including corners.

250	Oct 18 2011, 9:02 AM #2 TeggD Senior Member Its madness

Netherland 2,098	Oct 18 2011, 9:02 AM #3 noisiaturismo Banned Less downforce, more speed, 2 pp more

United Kingdom 3,245	Oct 18 2011, 9:24 AM #5 TankAss95 Ad infinitum Could one state the maximum velocity of such vehicle?

131	Oct 18 2011, 12:05 PM #9 sporkafife Active Member Maybe because it as more aerodynamic features, it will actually have a slightly lower top speed but be slightly better in high speed corners? (something the X2010 was pretty amazing at anyway) Just a theory, I'm at Uni now so I have no time to sit and play on my beloved GT5

Bay Area, CA 2,659	Oct 18 2011, 12:26 PM #10 Zenith Danger Zone!!! The driver's skill and the design of the tracks are still the biggest limitation for the X cars. One cannot simply take a 350mph feather with infinite downforce and expect it to go around a track made for modern-day race cars.

The Netherlands 471	Oct 18 2011, 12:36 PM #11 leepangfu GTP Addict It's a lot faster. Mine now has 1634 hp. Compared The top speed of the X2010 and X2011 without drafting on SSR7 with similar setups(low downforce, no camber and toe). The X2011 beat it by more than 20 km/h X2011: 513 km/h X2010: 492 km/h

Nebraska 65	Oct 30 2011, 5:02 PM #15 WHO_DAT_62 Junior Member It's much more stable. Feels more like a fast f10.

New York 14,798	Oct 30 2011, 6:13 PM #16 Slashfan 1100 CID of Go Fast More stable, downforce, more power and higher top speed. The X1 used to fight to hit 285 and the X2 lays down power until 301 then keeps slowly climbing.

San Francisco, 2,166	Oct 30 2011, 11:19 PM #18 Machate-man SF's Captain Slow The X2010 seems more suited to cornering and braking, given a comparison between the two when both have full downforce. However, the X2011 is undeniably faster in a straight line and 50/50 downforce (lowest), going 500+km/h and having ~100 hp more than the X2010.

Alabama 106	Oct 30 2011, 11:33 PM #19 CNSpots1 Active Member well. for example, i hit a maximum speed of 305MPH in the X2010, and i hit 321MPH in the X2011. that alone is a huge difference. WITHOUT DRAFTING

4,805	Oct 31 2011, 7:13 AM #20 Exorcet Incompressible Member Every track I've driven the X11 on, it's been faster than the original. I'd say it is better in every way, including corners.