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I was looking for pictures of a particular F1 Ferrari with two rear wings and by googling "F1 rear wings" together with words like "funny odd double strange illegal" and maybe a few more, I found some amazing concepts. So I thought it would be interesting to share here - in a era where most of the aerodynamic refinement goes into invisible or barely visible parts of the cars - a few strange experiences made in other eras, when engeniers were still trying their ideas - sometimes quite crazy - with wings.
This is a model of the car I was searching, the Ferrari with two rear wings: And this is a picture of the rear wing (with built-in double diffuser ) of a March that I had never seen before: |
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Ligier JS5 'teapot':
![]() March 711: Arrows A22 with the top wing for Monaco: ![]() Similar solution for Jordan: ![]() LionF1 Project: ![]() The 1972 Eifelland 'periscope': ![]() Brabham BT46 'fan car': ![]() Tyrrell 1997 'X wings' (plus single piece nose-wing): ![]() Ligier JS21: ![]() McLaren MP4/10 "mid-wing": ![]() Tyrrell P34 (6 wheeler): ![]() Williams 6-wheeler prototype: ![]() Ferrari 6-wheeler prototype: ![]() Ok, I was taking a bit of liberty by putting 6-wheelers and the fan car in there, but I can't not mention them when we talk about "extreme" F1 cars
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Never knew about the Ferrari dually.
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Another strange experiment with rear wing(s): The "Boomerang" Tyrrell 012
EDIT: Notice also the huge diffuser ... |
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So looking at these pictures only one questions keeps coming to mind... Did any of those crazy/extreme aero packages work?
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Well, I can tell you that the Arrows and Jordan top wing for Monaco was quickly banned before we could see it in action. The Brabham BT46 did work very well, actually winning races, but was banned. The Tyrell P34 possessed large amounts of grip, I don't know if it won anything, and I think it was also banned.
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Anything that worked too well got banned basically!!
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I think the P34 may have had limited success aswell. |
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Wow all of those are pretty damn cool. I can't imagine how comical the LionF1 car would have been though. The boomerang tyrrell, x-wing tyrrell and 6 wheeled williams are my favourite.
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Mid-wings are still seen today in a fashion with shark-fins, but were one of those "percentage" additions. Same for X-wings, which were effective but didn't bring huge amounts. They were banned because they could catch the wheel gun cables easily in the pitlane and effected the driver's ability to get out of the car. They were used by a lot of teams though, so they must have brought some decent benefits. There were Ferrari and Sauber X wings too if I remember right. The Arrows A22 front top wing apparently did bring a fair bit of downforce according to Arrows, but it was banned on the grounds of hampering the driver's vision. Same for the mini wing on the Jordan. Eifelland's periscope mirror wasn't banned at the time, the team just collapsed. The air intake in front of the driver wasn't very effective either and the car lacked downforce and suffered overheating issues.
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Mmm, apologies if this isn't at all what you had in mind -- but an interesting bit of Formula One nonetheless.
In 1982, Ferrari ran two equally-sized wings on each car, one slightly forward of the other, with the rationalization that no amount of wings was specified in the regulations. Apparently there was some earlier tomfoolery with 'water-cooled brakes', which would put the cars of some teams at minimum weight before the race, after which point the water was jettisoned to the tune of 50 kg advantage. As Clive James observed in the official review of that season, after Gilles Villeneuve finished third "...we all finally found out what that rear wing was for, it was to get him disqualified. Under that special morale-busting official dispensation, which ensures that a driver must first lay his life on the line before being told that his efforts were in vain." There's great footage out there of Gilles Villeneuve powering down the straights of Long Beach in pursuit of Keke Rosberg's DFV-powered ground effect Williams. The whole 1982 Season Review as narrated by Clive James of the United States Grand Prix West is quotable
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. I was lucky enough to see it in action via the film Lap of the Gods where they mounted a camera high up on the car and angled down so that we can see how the front 4 wheels did their job in turning the car on the Monaco street course where that particular clip took place.As for the X-wing racer, was there sponsorship on the car from the people promoting the Star Wars Special Edition Trilogy the weekends that car was running? ![]()
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Arrows A2
![]() Ensign N179 ![]() Honda RA108 'Dumbo Wings' ![]() BMW Sauber F108 'Horns' ![]() ![]() 1978 McLaren with second front wing ![]() Ferrari 162C2 ![]() Lotus 88
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Feb 13 2010, 12:51 AM
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NapoleonMikey
Kobayashi for 2011 WDC
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Also this.. The front horns of the BMW Sauber F1.06, Magny Course.
![]() EDIT: Owh, also the BMW Williams FW26 ![]()
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Feb 13 2010, 8:29 AM
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