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No Country Specifiedillinois
Dec 10 2010, 6:11 PM #1
givmedew Junior Member
Hi, My first time posting a tune on any site been playing the franchise since gt2. So anyways what I would like to find out if anyone can get a better tune for this car on Indy!
I just broke 39 seconds with a 38.990
OH and this is with a dual shock controller and ALL aids except abs of (abs wouldnt help anyways but no abs on a dualshock is stupid)

These are the settings
ALL Available MODS w/ SOFT Racing Tires

1040HP

Aerodynamic Adjustment
53/72

Gear Ratio
Top Speed "267"

Diff
IT: 10
AS: 40
BS: 20

Suspension
Ride Height 0/0
Spring Rate 14.8/15.8
Extension 10/10
Compression 8/8
Anti-Roll 6/7

Wheel Alignment
Camber 3.0/1.6
Toe Angle 0.00/0.13 (WOULD NOT RECOMMEND ON ANYTHING BUT OVAL TRACK)

Ok Now for the most important part of the build. The WHY to many builds miss this and I have seen some ridiculous builds including one for a Lambo that just made the car horrible.

Downforce (biggest player I think): It is just enough down force the turning in will slow the car down enough to make it through the turn. It requires perfect timing on the turn in or you are hitting the grass or the wall usually the second will accompany the first.

Alignment: I think the most notable thing in alignment is the change to the camber angle. I immediately noticed the car was easier to get around the turn and more forgiving I think that the word forgiving is important on an oval track with a dual shock controller.

Suspension: I think the most important change is the Anti Roll Bars the change is minute however if anything stiffening up the rear more than the front can reduce oversteer. I don't think setting the front to 7 would have a noticeable disadvantage however its not worth taking the risk.

Now this is a work in progress to me and I would love some help. Now I have been doing the testing during an actual race since its worth 70,000cr the problem is the first and last lap do not count.

SO PLEASE don't think for any reason that your last lap counts because it should be nearly half a second faster depending on where you lap the Vertigo Race Car.

That said lemme know if anyone finds an improvements that would make this faster around the track on a dualshock of course. If this was a wheel I would lower the downforce a lil just enough so you have to come off the accelerator just a bit and time your turn ins perfect.
   
 
No Country SpecifiedMarkham, Ontario
Dec 11 2010, 3:29 AM #2
jamessl33k Junior Member
i will try this later when i have some time, i won this car today and it needs so much work stock it drove terribly.
   
Dec 11 2010, 9:33 AM #3
kamisaya Active Member
How do you get to 1040hp?
   
Dec 11 2010, 9:57 AM #4
kamisaya Active Member
Great setup btw. I managed 38:571 with the setup while having only 1023hp in my minolta, no idea why. It would go faster for sure if I have 1040hp too
Last edited by kamisaya; Dec 11 2010 at 10:08 AM.
   
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No Country SpecifiedBham UK
Dec 11 2010, 10:07 AM #5
Gumuz Senior Member
Could this set up be used on other tracks? Or is it tuned specifically for Indy?
   
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No Country SpecifiedBremen, GERMANY
Dec 11 2010, 10:35 AM #6
Tharain GTP Addict
have 776kw aswell, just drive the car and keep changing oil regularly
   
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No Country SpecifiedRock Hill, SC
Dec 11 2010, 10:36 AM #7
breezy Active Member
I used this tune with same HP on Indy and it is flawless. Was constantly hitting under 39 secs, my best being 38.281. Never let off the gas. Passed the vertigo car on the 4th turn of the 2nd to last lap. My final race time was 3'23.401" Easiest 70k out there by far.
   
No Country Specifiedraleigh/nc/us
Dec 11 2010, 10:38 AM #8
jeremy_craig GTP Enthusiast
How do you get 1040hp? I have all upgrades and oil change and broke the engine in but only have 900ish hp. Am I missing something here?
   
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No Country SpecifiedSomewhere
Dec 11 2010, 11:33 AM #9
SuperShouden Diamond Member
Holy CRAP! Two setups for this car and they both suck. This one doesn't stop and is VERY loose. Other one is just too loose.
   
Dec 13 2010, 2:14 PM #10
damaged_case Active Member
is this setup good for B-Spec as well?
or just A-Spec?
   
No Country Specifiedlondon
Dec 13 2010, 2:32 PM #11
majortom420 New Member
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Holy CRAP! Two setups for this car and they both suck. This one doesn't stop and is VERY loose. Other one is just too loose.
I hate this car with a passion, it's ALL throttle control.
   
No Country SpecifiedAustin TX
Dec 20 2010, 8:35 AM #12
ape_ck Junior Member
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I hate this car with a passion, it's ALL throttle control.
+1, this car drives me crazy.
   
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No Country SpecifiedSome where
Dec 20 2010, 9:57 AM #13
Paul Tracy Junior Member
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I hate this car with a passion, it's ALL throttle control.
I love this car and after using the set up i was able drive cleaner .

Mind you the car still has under steer but its manageable.
   
No Country SpecifiedSeattle, WA
Dec 21 2010, 2:40 PM #14
barefoot_trev New Member
engine rebuild will get you to 1040hp (but at 500k... probably worth it i guess)
   
Dec 27 2010, 12:10 AM #15
pratorian New Member
This is my first post here...long time GT player! Just used your tune and I ran a 38.864 sec lap on the LTW Superspeedway - Indy. All I can say is outstanding. Thanks.
   
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No Country Specified****-Creek
Dec 27 2010, 12:57 AM #16
DomTec New Member
I'm using a very similar setup for Indy, with the exemption of the negative camber angle (I’m using more down force instead) Do you use soft tires? I assume you do and am wondering how many laps your tires do last? Downside of my setup was that I had to change tires every 25 to 27 laps, making a total of 7 pit stops for Indy 500.

See also:


http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showth...80#post4415180
   
Dec 27 2010, 2:12 AM #17
brekehan Junior Member
I'll post my tune here, so I have a place to switch it back from after I try yours. Mine has served me quite well so far. I usually get 39 secs, but I'm a horrible driver.

I use this set-up for all tracks, not just indy. So who knows if it is better or not.

aero: 55/80
trans: default
LSD: 10/35/20
height: -15/-15
spring: 15.9/15.9
ext: 7/6
compression: 7/6
anti-roll: 5/4
camber: 2.0/1.5
toe: 0.0/0.25
   
Dec 27 2010, 3:18 AM #18
psychot|K Active Member
This is what I used for GT4 (thanks Fumes!), same principles should apply.

Down force = 63 / 88

Ride height: X / X + 4 [X = depends on track]
Spring rate: 14.8 / 15.8
Decompression = 7 / 7
Compression = 6 / 7
Stabilizers = 4 / 4

Camber = 2.5 / 1.0
Toe = 0 / 0

Brake balance = 6 / 5

Initial torque = 10
Acceleration = 40
Deceleration = 9

TCS = as low as you feel comfortable with
   
No Country SpecifiedBristol
Mar 19 2011, 1:37 PM #19
Enrich New Member
Aero:
F = 60
R = 82

Transmision:
Top speed = 242
1st gear = 4.129
2nd gear = 3.100
3rd gear = 1.980
4th gear = 1.415
5th gear = 1.104
6th gear = 0.913
Final = 3.429

Drivetrain:
IT = 10
AS = 30
BS = 15

Suspension:
RHA = -5 -5
SR = 14.8 15.8
DE = 8 8
DC = 8 8
ARB = 6 6

CA = 1.8 0.5
TA = -0.15 0.25

Brakes:
10 10
   
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No Country SpecifiedAthens/Greece
Mar 25 2011, 4:40 AM #20
zanxion GTP Enthusiast
@givmedew, your mod has helped me annihilate the gran turismo all stars championship. I had even got away with mistakes (5th at nurburgring, 1st on all rest).

Thank you!
   

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