2024 US Presidential Election Thread
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It's been a long week so let me see if I got all this.
- ONLY Democrats have been allowed to watch the polls for the last 40 years.
- But the Republicans were in on it.
- Despite this, since 1984 there have been seven US Presidents - four Republicans (Regan, Bush 1 and 2 and Trump) and three Democrats (Clinton, Obama and Biden). Seems like a pretty weak showing for the Democrats if they're running the show.
- The first election after this ruling was overturned resulted in... a Democrat winning.
McLaren
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It's not the source, it's the site itself that is conservatively-funded & right-influenced.Look again. Bloomberg is hardly conservative.
It's why you trust it & have disregarded other poll sites presented. B/c you're a good little boy to Republicans.
He's been a **** posting troll the entire time. Nothing he argues is in good faith, even by his own admission in that he chooses not to provide any evidence whether it be due to fear of us dissecting it or as of recently, well, Google the Dog ate his homework and that's why he can't find anything. Then, you have the coming & going to make bait posts as well as deciding every now & then to launch irrelevant points like questioning Famine's grammar.
As for his avatar choice, that's genuine. Ricky Bobby was a moronic simpleton who liked to go fast & that speaks volumes to a Trump supporter.
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Wait wait wait, you can't bring evidence into this faith-based discussion!Have you fellas seen the latest polls?Most Americans don't agree with you.
Latest Polls
www.realclearpolling.com
I mean, you've certainly picked something that's only evidence if you believe in it, but even so.
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Isn't evidence what you're always disregarding because it hurts your feelies?
Your source cherry-picks agenda-appropriate polling, for reference. It rarely uses data that disagrees with its agenda except where it's doing so in mitigation, to point to the fact it doesn't exclude such data (which it obviously does except in mitigation).
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I don't think you understand what conjecture means. Trump was found liable for sexual abuse by a jury for acts of rape. He's a rapist. Also tried to have a mob kill the vice president and much of congress to disrupt the election... it goes on... fraud... tampering with the election in Georgia (it's his voice recorded). You know, crimes.
Turns out grab 'em by the vagina guy is a rapist. Who could have guessed?
That's YOUR guy.
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The polls I posted were all rigged though. Riiiggged.
C'mon, how could it be an insurrection if none of those patriots had access to weapons?
Except for these guys, of course:
https://apnews.com/article/capitol-...and-politics-6ac80882e8cf61af36be6c46252ac24c
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On the left or the right?
Yep. So do you, since it's your link.
Look at all the sources for each poll; notice how, with few exceptions, it excludes any source that isn't right or right-leaning? The exceptions are when the source isn't showing a significantly different picture to the site's agenda, so that it can post that source and allow imbeciles (or the dishonest) to say "Look, this is from Bloomberg! Bloomberg! They're hardly Conservative!" to mitigate any accusations of exclusively using right/right-leaning sources. Of course it, and people who believe it's not a dishonest source, subsequently ignore every other poll from sources like Bloomberg that do show a significantly different picture, because one time it said Trump was ahead two points.
You, of course, will believe otherwise because it suits you to.
Danoff
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I forgot, you don't accept information from outside of your little right-wing cave, mostly consisting of Trump himself. Why are you even talking about facts? I thought you were comfortable with your "faith" that Trump didn't rape E. Jean Carroll and didn't call the Georgia Secretary of state and tell him to "find" enough vote for him to win and didn't tell the mob to go give mike pence the courage to disrupt the election.
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Nope
It happened. The only person killed was by a Capital Hill cop.
It's incredibly stupid for those people to have invaded the capital building. I won't defend them.
... And will you believe that Biden has the favor of the the electorate?
He certainly does not.
I live here, and can reassure you that people whose everyday lives have been ruined by the left are absolutely not supporting Biden.
I don't understand your motivation in supporting the American leftists.
I really don't think you know what you're talking about.
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At least seven people died:
These Are the People Who Died in Connection With the Capitol Riot (Published 2022)
A bipartisan Senate report found that at least seven people had lost their lives in connection with the Jan. 6 attack.
But they invaded the Capitol because Trump told them to march down there and put a stop to the election he claimed was fraudulent. The insurrectionists tried to overthrow the US government and were going to lynch members of Congress along with the Vice President. So yes, it can be backed up with facts.
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Nope. I think that the largest single slice of the electorate (which is almost never a majority, but always a plurality since that's what that word means) will express no preference and not vote. I don't believe that, because it's something that doesn't require faith: it's the norm, and rarely does anything else happen.
2020 was one of those occasions. In 2020, 33.3% of registered voters didn't vote. 34.2% voted for Biden, and 31.2% voted for the incumbent (a rare, rare loss for an incumbent).
For 2016 those figures were 39.9% non-voters, 30% Clinton, and 27.7% for Trump.
The margin was even bigger in 2012: 41.4% non-voters, 29.9% for Obama and 27.7% for Romney.
In fact the last President elected with more votes than the non-voters before Biden was Lyndon B Johnson in 1964 - at 38.4% to 37.2% - and he took 44 States (and DC)...
That's because you made something up, decided that I think it, then attacked that as if I actually expressed it at some point.
Since, you know, dishonest.
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Uh huh... yea. He told an angry mob to go get the vice president to do the opposite of what he was going to do. He said "peacefully" and knew exactly what they would do. If and you think otherwise, try to explain why he refused to act to defend the capitol. I guess Trump figured they'd knock at the door and ask politely for pence to come out and then would sit down and have tea with him and ask nicely for him to overthrow the election?
What does your faith in trump have to do with facts?
Joey D
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So what were the people on January 6th attacking the Capitol for? Were they just going to have a beer with members of Congress? They built a gallow, they had restraints, they were literally chanting "hang Mike Pence". They were trying to stop a the peaceful transfer of power and prevent a democratically run election from being certified. It was a half-assed coup attempt, but a coup attempt nevertheless and it was enabled by Trump.
