GTP_WRS Week 129 : Duct Tape Deathmatch

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GT6 Week 129 : Duct Tape Deathmatch


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Hotlap Event in Arcade Mode Time Trial
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Spoon Civic Type R (EK) '00 / Toyota Sprinter Trueno GT-APEX (S.Shigeno Ver.) '00
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Tsukuba Circuit


:: Only Open to Qualified GTP_Registered Members ::


:: Members are not obligated to take part ::


Race Details:
  • Mode: Arcade Mode > Single Player > Time Trial
  • Track: World > Tsukuba Circuit
  • Car Type: Garage/Favorites Car
  • Make: Japan > Spoon / Toyota
  • Model: Civic Type R (EK) '00 / Sprinter Trueno GT-APEX (S.Shigeno Ver.) '00
  • Power: 213 bhp (pl 95.0 %) / 216 bhp (pl 100%) (after oil change)
  • Weight: 825kg (5kg ballast at position 0) / 825kg (stock)
  • PP: 447 / 441
Driving Options:
  • Transmission: Auto or Manual
  • Tires: Comfort Soft (front) Sports Hard (rear)
  • Driving Line Optional
  • Traction Control | ASM | ABS: Optional
  • Brake Balance: Optional
  • Active Steering | Skid Recovery Force: Prohibited
  • Tuning: Prohibited , with a couple exceptions (see below)
  • Tuning: Prohibited , 5kg Ballast at position 0 (only on the Spoon)
  • Stock Suspension Tuning Allowed (only on the Toyota)
  • Body Rigidity Improvement: Prohibited
  • In-Race RA Functions: Optional
  • Custom Wheels and Paint: Allowed'
  • Racing #: N/A
Course Settings:
  • Time: N/A
  • Weather: N/A
  • Grip Reduction on Track Edge: Real
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Race Specifics:
  • The event MUST be run using your registered account
  • The use of the clutch that is found on the G25, G27, and other high end racing wheels is strictly prohibited.
  • Use of the Handbrake is Prohibited.
  • No Contact with walls or other objects. Any contact with walls, no matter how minor, will result in a DQ.
  • Tarmac between white lines , White line and Red and White rumble strips are legal track. No other surfaces are track.


Steward's Comments:
Thank you @RacingOtaku86 and @mcsqueegy for the initial testing of this 2 car combo.
:cheers: :cheers:

Also thanks Macca for helping in finalizing the specs. :bowdown:


When I think of Civic vs AE86 I remember the Duct Tape Deathmatch between EG6 and AE86

But where this combo comes is actually from 4th Stage , episode 6:


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Feel free to talk about the strenghts and weaknesses of each car & which one you prefer and/or are using.

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  • You need to make sure you save the 'Save Best Lap Replay' (ghost replay), not the 'Save Replay' (See pic below)
  • To view your best lap replay, go to 'My Home' and watch the replay from there using the 'Gallery' option.
  • Live timing monitor does not work properly, so we have to use a small trick to view splits.
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  • While keeping the replay paused, advance the replay, using the forward arrow on the replay HUD. This will advance the replay to the end of the first sector. That's your T1 split, write it down.
  • Advance the replay again. That will show the lap to date time on the screen, this is your first and second sector time, added together.
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(Best Lap Replay Icon)


Standard Clean OLR Rules:

  • At Least 2 Tires must be in contact with track at all times.

    • In situations where contact with the track is not possible because tires are airborne (above the ground), then the run is only legal if at least two tires in-line would have made contact with the track if the car were not airborne.
    • If track contact cannot be 100% determined, then consider it dirty.
  • Rumble/ripple strips are part of the track.
  • No contact with walls or objects, visible or invisible
  • If you're not 100% sure that your lap is clean, then consider it dirty
  • No hybrids
  • No cheating of any kind,these are relaxed races and we are experienced racers, we know what times can be done,and we can read your mind. We will know.
  • Nothing that goes against the spirit of the rules.
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Thread rules:
The following information cannot be discussed in this thread (they can, however, be discussed on Skype or via other private IM service.):
  • Total Lap Time
  • Any information which can be used to infer your total laptime
The following information can be discussed in this thread :
  • The first 2 splits: T1 and T2 times
  • Any settings discussion
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  • Video replays are not accepted as a form of verification
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Good luck, :gtplanet:
OLR Team
 
Early splits, I love me some Tsukuba. This is in the Sprinter, I have been changing back and forth between the cars, but cannot improve this in the Spoon ATM.

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34.817

Using Ride Height 121 Front/90 Rear. Camber set to 0 on both.
 
Still in the Toyota, I've decided I am done with the Spoon for now. Could not handle the understeer this morning. But the online races are going to be interesting, as the other car has a straightline speed advantage that will be tough to counter.

Anyhow, new splits and tried camber, but set these without it. I think it felt like it helped the car turn in a bit better, but there was also some grip loss as a result.

15.366
34.633

It's so hard to hit apexes in this car, which is pretty ironic. :lol:

I missed the apex by about 2-3 feet on the left just after T1 split and the right just after T2 split. I think the throttle on point and not losing traction are more critical in those, but there has to be something in actually hitting those apexes. Turn 1 and the final turn seem to be key to the lap, but there are others that matter.

Still running the same suspension and braking settings. 121/90 RH, zero camber, 1/4 brakes.
 
Everyone's trying the toyota think I'll try the 'SPOON' - sorry I just got reminded about the Tick, an cartoon super hero. he'd shout 'SPOON' when leaping into trouble without really thinking about it :lol:.
 
Everyone's trying the toyota think I'll try the 'SPOON' - sorry I just got reminded about the Tick, an cartoon super hero. he'd shout 'SPOON' when leaping into trouble without really thinking about it :lol:.
I also tried the Spoon, but ran out of patience for it this morning. Was like 0.5 off my times from last night, and could not slow down enough to go fast. I might still try going back to it, although I enjoy the Toyota much more. BTW, the engine in this car is a 4AGE, although a 5 valve silver top. It's a derivative of the engine we use the MR2.

Went back for more, hit some of those pesky apexes i was missing. I think there might be another tenth in this for me, at best.

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34.586
 
I've tried both cars in a couple of different sessions and I agree with the majority here that the Toyota will turn faster laps. The cars are somewhat close through T2 (.200) and down the backstretch but the final turn (and its understeer) kills any chance the Honda may have.

Keeping the stock CS tires on the rear of the Honda may give it a fighting chance. Is that an option?
 
Short run in the Spoon to start, with stock brakes:

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34.520

Throttle control is your friend in this car... master that and it's every bit as fast as the Sprinter ;)

Keeping the stock CS tires on the rear of the Honda may give it a fighting chance. Is that an option?
Tyres must be left as is I'm afraid... yes the stagger looks a bit strange but it was the most sensible way to balance the cars while keeping a unique challenge with each one :)
 
Short run in the Spoon to start, with stock brakes:

15.295
34.520

Throttle control is your friend in this car... master that and it's every bit as fast as the Sprinter ;)


Tyres must be left as is I'm afraid... yes the stagger looks a bit strange but it was the most sensible way to balance the cars while keeping a unique challenge with each one :)
I flipped back to it yesterday and managed to beat my lap that I'd set in the Toyota the day before. That still leaves me about 3 tenths off, but I'm sure if I buckled down and got used to driving the car, it could be as fast. For me, it's a matter of preference, not purely speed.
 
Hi,

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35.883

:confused:

I'm miles away from acceptable split times, last place on the board. Do I just need to practise more? I'm with gt6 for roundabout six weeks now, finished the last stars yesterday (24 min. Le Mans).

Any hints? Or do I get out of patience?

little frustrated,
D.
 
@DeuxMilles If your experience - I'm averse to say what counts - is limited, then practice will work fairly quickly! When I started in WRS, I was very much a div 4 contender. That was two and a half years ago, many people have progressed faster, too. I had perhaps 100 thousand km of wheel in GT 4 and 5 (mostly the later game and mostly racing), but just about no experience with a 900 degree wheel, which is what I've used for the time trials.
 
Hi,

16.033
35.883

:confused:

I'm miles away from acceptable split times, last place on the board. Do I just need to practise more? I'm with gt6 for roundabout six weeks now, finished the last stars yesterday (24 min. Le Mans).

Any hints? Or do I get out of patience?

little frustrated,
D.
Are you using aids? Meaning, Traction Control or Stability Control (ASM).

Are you shifting manually, and keeping an eye on the RPM shift point that allows you to go the fastest? (Watch your ghost and try different things on the longest straights).

Those are a couple of basic tips to help move your way up. Make sure the aids are off, make sure you are optimizing your shift points in these low power cars. Beyond that, it's going to come down to braking points and line, in the most simple terms.

The other good thing that can help you learn here is at the end of the week, you can upload ghost replays from faster users to your PS3 and chase them. And you can get feedback on your lap, on what might potentially help you go faster.
 
Hi,

:confused:

I'm miles away from acceptable split times, last place on the board. Do I just need to practise more? I'm with gt6 for roundabout six weeks now, finished the last stars yesterday (24 min. Le Mans).

Any hints? Or do I get out of patience?

little frustrated,
D.

Don't know if you are experienced with other race games and if you use a wheel or the controller?
6 weeks is not very long.
Practise (and skill) will make you improve for sure.
And keep in mind in WRS you'll have to deal with the real hardcore diehard GT fans:lol:
Good luck !
:cheers:
 

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