The thing here is that you tell him that his theory about B-Spec 2 is just born out of hope and in the subtext that he is naive and you don’t see any evidence for this, while you at the same time say that you think that GT8 will come out in 2024.
I don't care, I have no interest in racing online, I have interest in a decent single player experience. Other people being faster than me is fine, my ego doesn't need stroking to prove myself nor do I need to invest time in something I'm not interested in to convince myself that a product must be great.
I agree on the first point to a point, but the financial viability of GT7 from a development point of view isn't what anyone but you are trying to debate here, the actual quality of the game and updates is. Two very different things and one being considered successful doesn't by default mean the other is great. On the second point please provide a source for this fact and show how many people are buying one game, playing one game and susbribing to PS+ on the basis of that one game.
So glorified time trials are worth a full priced game? Give me a break. I understand some people with lower expectations ordifferent preferences will be happy with it, but I am not. I get opinions will differ here but don't speak as a matter of fact for other people, once you go beyond your own personal opnion you are immediately wrong.
We agree here, half of what you say is fine even where I don't agree and those are where your opinion is concerned. It's the bits where you try to claim many peoples are x, y or z with not a shred of evidence that I'm taking issue with. If you personally feel GT7 justified it's purchase price, great, you aren't alone I'm sure, but there are plenty of people who don't either.
It's how the industry was trending 5 to 10 years ago. For a large number of reasons (including legal barriers in some countries) the push towards gacha mechanics in full priced games has significantly lessened, and it's not really going up.
Anthem got dropped, but it took about a year. Substantial changes were being made up until then, albeit on a fundamentally flawed game. I wouldn't call that being dropped cold when it got support for longer than GT7 has been out.
They do, but they're a minority. They have to be because they undermine the business model that consoles and games are built on. Attach rate is a very important number to Sony because they want a single console to drive multiple game purchases in order to generate the most profit.
How? The only, only, decent feature PD have added in recent months is the ability to sell cars, a feature the game should've launch with and was in every other numbered title at launch before 7. They've added a few new cars, some good, some less so depending on tastes but they're still being delivered at a slow rate and the real problems online (according to some as I don't race online) and the lack of a single player career still remain as big an issue now as they were 9 months ago.
I don't think the updates have done much to shift people's perceptions at all. If you thought GT7 was great at release, you're going to think it's even more great. If you thought that stuff was lacking or poorly designed, it's highly unlikely that they've changed your mind as they've just added more of the same.
I can't imagine why you'd think PD would release every piece of content they produce. It makes total sense to compartmentalise their output with GT7 DLC, GT8 content, and yes, something set aside for a possible Spec 2 release. Not to mention ongoing work with new platforms. As it is GT7 is already a huge game with a substantial amount of DLC, as seen by players putting in many hundreds of hours.
Some, like yourself, want a game that is fundamentally different to GT7. That isn't going to happen, PD have their vision. After 9 months you're either in the camp that's still playing GT7 and looking forward to future developments. Or you stopped playing months ago. The last two updates (taken as a pair) are probably the strongest to date, and a great way to round out the year.
I know you think this is a knock on PD, but it says more about your own preferences. I don't think GT7 is the game for you if you can only get an hours entertainment out of a dozen cars, a new track, and numerous events. There's so much to GT7 that you apparently aren't interested in, which again is personal preference. Completing events is only a small part of my game time.
What precedence are you basing this off? There was no Spec 2 for GT6. There was no Spec 2 for GTS in terms of new content, just a collective updated disc with that name. Even the Spec 2 update for GT5 was not particularly big.
Er, ok?Of course they don't need to do anything, they've got zero obligations. But if they want to keep millions of people playing the game for years to come, they absolutely need to offer more than that. They are only going to have the small die hards left playing if they continue like that.
Why not? Do three races last you a month?
No, I don't want a game that is fundamentally different to GT7, I have said time and time again, I think GT7 has the foundation to be the best GT game to date not just on a technical level, where it currently is the best, but as a game as well, where it's currently lagging behind GT1-4 IMO. And it's a shame they've left it like this and released it in the state it was.
I wouldn’t call GT7 huge, it’s a AAA game for sure, but huge is a bit over exaggerated.
are they really new, though? one of the races is nearly always Gr4, which means one-make race for 90% of the tracks at the higher DR levels. also they have done the exact same car/track combo more times then i can count. even if the penalty system was fair (it is not, nor is it close), nothing about BOP / race selection would keep players enticed. i would love to be driving every day, like i was late-stage GTS, but there's nothing about these Daily Races that feels worth plugging the wheel back in for.
But that isn’t everybody’s cup of tea, and even that could be done much more interesting if they would give more weekly races, maybe like 5 and also make use of all the cars in the game, some more interesting races than just Gr.3 & 4 with some classic cars or even recreating some historical ones like having the Ford GT against the Ferrari P3, let the holy trinity race against each other (if they bring in the normal P1), just Group C Cars, specific VGTs, a selection of classic muscle cars or maybe even some Rally online races here and there, and of course increase the payouts.
I can name a bunch of games from before regular updates with glitches or exploits on release. Impossible Mission lives up to its name. One of the items you need is essentially stuck in a wall. Omega Race and Tempest were released with critical hardware faults. Tempest would overheat due to lack of cooling on the color vector display and Omega Race's high score backup battery should have been mounted somewhere other than the top of the motherboard so it wouldn't vent acid onto the board itself. Demon Attack would crash at wave 84 until it was patched. Imagic released a new set of cartridges to fix that. Robot Tank has two variants and I discovered a second variant of Space Shuttle by sheer accident when I tried to dump the cartridge assuming it was the same as the original. Those two were also on 2600 cartridges and new batches were distributed. Aside from backwards compatibility on a certain batch of 7800 consoles, I have no clue why they were patched, I just know they worked fine on a 2600.
