Infiniti G37S vs. BMW 335i Coupe

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Let me start by saying I did have a good review of the G done, but the internet lost connection, and closed the window. So, I'll try to keep it a bit shorter.


Today was a good day. Nice weather, decent traffic, great day to drive. I decided to head down to Classic to check out a 335i Coupe they finally had available for test drive. After a few minutes checking it out, and talking to my salesman, he hands over the keys, and I'm off. I pull onto Spring Creek Parkway, and take off west. The first thing I try out are those nifty little paddle shifters. I notice though that both seem to up shift. I slow down a bit, and click them again, and see the gear indicator point to 2. I just take it as both up shifting on gas, down shifting on brake. I would learn later on. Anyways, I speed up, and doing so, I hear the exhausts going off at 2,000Rpm. I give it a little more gas, and boom! They roar, and before I know it, I'm doing 75Mph. I'm not too worried though as there's no places to stop besides neighborhood entrances. Soon, I go by TX-121, and I'm at the end of the road. Turning around, I floor it, shifting and hitting 65Mph right as I fly underneath the highway. The road becomes dead empty, and I haul. Now, normally I'm against racing due to people's safety, but seeing as I was the only one, I took the risk. I shifted again, and saw the needle go by 80Mph. The car is just roaring, asking for more. I slow down before 90 worrying the car will have some sort of alarm going off. Slowing down, I decide to concentrate on the road. The suspension is kind of stiff, yet soft. Most of the bumps are glided over by the car. Changing lanes, I notice how soft the turn signal is. Just a tad flick shoots it up or down. I tap it, and turn it off. I notice the steering, like the feel, is soft, and firm. Small turns get the car turning, yet not too fast. Before returning the car, I give it one more gas off the light to 60. Freakin' amazing. I wanted to try the M3 so much after that. But of course, the M3's wouldn't be before Christmas.
Turning the car in, I talk to the salesman, and I'm nearly sold. We build a car, discuss payments, and talk about the building. The lease on my 3 now would be up Dec. 10th, but the car would be delivered afterwards. Not worried too much as he would search and let me know on Monday about incoming cars. At the end, I learned to shift up, you flick either paddle, but to shift down, you "press" them. Nifty. :)

Now, on to the G37S. I get to Sewell Infiniti, and look around a M35 until I see the G37 S that just came in. Getting in, it felt great and I didn't want to get out. The seat was comfortable, the electronic adjustable steering wheel was a great plus, the interface was easy to use, and view point was excellent. However, it was 20 minutes later I was finally helped. We talked, and he was a bit reluctant to get me a G37 S to test just from looking at my age. He takes off for 10 minutes, and finally brings me a Ivory Pearl G37 S. He says he has do something again, but I ask to go alone, and thankfully, am let.

I go out the back to get away from the Central Expressway traffic by pulling on to Premier Dr. The thing about this G though was that it was a 6-Speed stick. Oh yeah. :D I keep it in first til' the stop sign. I go right and head up to E. Park. Making a left on the clear street, I push the pedal down, and floor until 3rd gear. The 3.6 liter V6 takes off as fast as the 335i. This test drive also allows something the BMW one didn't. Different streets with actual curves. :trouble: I drive down to Archerwood St. and pull into the empty DART parking lot across the street from the station and other lot. I go down to one end, and drive around the lot getting a feel for the car. The suspension is stiffer than the 3, and the turning is stronger. I can feel the car grip more, and holding the "line". After some fun, I go behind the nearby Kohl's and floor it to the other end. All 330 horses are roaring through the V6. Noticing I've been gone a while, I take the long way back by driving to Parker Road, and going back down Premier. While heading back down, I messed with the interface again, and I'll admit, that it is one of the easiest things to use, much more than iDrive. But before I just take the road back normally, I floor her one more time, and almost get into 4th on the empty, but curvey road. Beautiful. Slowing down, I pull in, worried about the words I might recieve for being away for so long. But I didn't see the salesman anywhere, and was helped by another who took the car.
The original salesman finally came back, but he said 1 minute. I waited 5. He came back, and the dealer games began. Just like how they ticked me off and turned me away from a G35 Coupe years ago, they played these games again, and I left knowing I at least got something good out of the experience. I decided from now on, I'd drive to the other Infiniti dealer at Lovefield despite it being a longer drive. The customer service was worth it.

Phew. Sorry, for the long type, but I had to say despite crappy service, the G37 S is an amazing car.

In sound, the G37 S is a blast, but it really didn't spoil me as much as the 335i's twin-turbo 6. In suspension, the G37 S easily appears to be a better "griper" allowing sensational handling. Then again, I didn't really put the 335i through any curves. In comfort, it splits. The G is easily performance-oriented with seats that just hug you. The 3 though, was a bit of luxury with some sports-like seats. Really, the G37S was a car you could tell was built for straight-up performance with some creature comforts and would make an excellent track car. The 335i though allowed great power with great comfort.

In the end, I'd have to pick the 335i for now. The engine was amazing, and you'll hit 60 without even realizing it. The ride was also nicer, and allowed me to relax. It's a car that's just a blast to drive. It can be a mean machine when you want to perform, or your best friend when you just want to do 40 down your local road. I'm not saying the G isn't bad, but you can tell easily that car is meant to perform at the highest. It just isn't the kind of car you can suddenly want to do a Sunday drive in without speeding. It wants to go fast, and when you sit behind one equipped with the 6-Speed, it becomes tempting, because the gears just fly through the box.

Of course, if this ended in a true tie, the 3 would still win. The customer service of Sewell didn't compare to Classic. I had to go through these games when the original G35 Coupe was introduced, and now, here they were again with the G37 Coupe. Classic though, just offered the best help they could to get me a new car. So, it seems despite an amazing car, the G just isn't for me though I'd still take one.

Chalk up another win for the 335i in my book as the G37 S takes a place next to the Lexus IS350, Lexus GS350, Corvette C6, & the C350 Sport that only "lost" because of salesman BS.
 
Nice writeup.
Any comment on exhaust note, or were they both too dampened to be noticeable?

If you mean by sound, both were actually dampened. The way they sounded at high RPM's made them seem like they'd be a lot louder. Lower RPM's were fine, but the higher notes just seem like something that'd be set on Volume 9, not 6 if you get what I mean. They're still fine and sound mean though, and are both guaranteed to turn heads if you rev 'em.
 
... So they're well amplified at higher RPM's, but subtle and quiet at lower ones?


I drove a 350Z Convertible a couple months back, and it seemed too quiet - I didn't take it to redline or even close to, though. Salesman was with me.

I also drove a Mustang GT Convertible, and it sounded very nice. Burbly and mellow at lower RPM's, but fairly loud at WOT.
 
Nice review, I saw the new G coupe in person the other day. Definately a lot better looking in real life than in pictures. I myself couldn't pick between the two if I were to choose.
 
... So they're well amplified at higher RPM's, but subtle and quiet at lower ones?


I drove a 350Z Convertible a couple months back, and it seemed too quiet - I didn't take it to redline or even close to, though. Salesman was with me.

I also drove a Mustang GT Convertible, and it sounded very nice. Burbly and mellow at lower RPM's, but fairly loud at WOT.
Well, I mean at low RPM's, they're a little louder than you expect. At higher RPM's, they're loud, but sometimes you might think that they could be louder. If you take each car to the max RPM, they're pretty loud, but most people probably won't be doing that.

I, personally, think they're great, but it might just be me wanting them to be louder as they both do sound amazing.
 
Great write-up!

I hate the fact that I don't have any money and really can only test drive "regular" cars. Based on previous experiences with older BMWs (328ci) and Infinitis (G35), I would have anticipated a BMW win in my book, as they just do such a good job at getting everything "right." My guess is that the only thing I'd really worry about would be the price difference (what, $7K these days? Chump change!), and then the fact that the Camaro is coming out...

...Not like its really comparable anyway...

Given the awesomeness that has been leveled at Cadillac as of late over the CTS (yes, I know you don't like it), I'd give that a look. Problem is, the coupe won't be out for at least another year, and God knows how the styling will change.

BMW FTW!
 
Great write-up!

I hate the fact that I don't have any money and really can only test drive "regular" cars. Based on previous experiences with older BMWs (328ci) and Infinitis (G35), I would have anticipated a BMW win in my book, as they just do such a good job at getting everything "right." My guess is that the only thing I'd really worry about would be the price difference (what, $7K these days? Chump change!), and then the fact that the Camaro is coming out...

...Not like its really comparable anyway...

Given the awesomeness that has been leveled at Cadillac as of late over the CTS (yes, I know you don't like it), I'd give that a look. Problem is, the coupe won't be out for at least another year, and God knows how the styling will change.

BMW FTW!
Cadillac was actually next door. However, I didn't bother with the CTS because the dealer was owned by Sewell, too. If it wasn't, I might have as I saw one color on the CTS that actually looked pretty good.

As for the Camaro, I would def. look at one if I knew I could get one. However, the markup on them will probably end up being higher than I want to pay, and I can't even imagine the waiting lists. :scared:
 
I have no idea where my Dad's name is on the list, but I'm sure he isn't happy about the "market adjustment" that will likely be on it for 2009. I'm anticipating a sell-off of Fourth Generation models, so that makes the buying season good for me I guess...
 
Good write up McLaren. I would of gone out of my way and taken the 335i down some twisties. With exception to overall comfort these two are basically even on everything (minus price). I would (obviously) choose the G--the exhaust note alone is worth the price for me. And you're not alone in finding out that Sewell is worthless in the customer service department. And what's really bad is they have a slight ethnic preference. They, according to several friends of mine shopping for Caddy's seem to treat darker pigmented people better over lighter ones. I don't think age has anything to do with it for them.

I also drove a Mustang GT Convertible, and it sounded very nice. Burbly and mellow at lower RPM's, but fairly loud at WOT.

Which is one of the main reasons why I'd buy a GT over the Infiniti and BMW. Price and noise.

Ah, good point. Perhaps a couple late-model Camaro SS's will surface on the market :trouble:

WS6 Trans-Ams are lightyears better looking and are available pretty inexpensively. :sly:
 
Good write up McLaren. I would of gone out of my way and taken the 335i down some twisties. With exception to overall comfort these two are basically even on everything (minus price). I would (obviously) choose the G--the exhaust note alone is worth the price for me. And you're not alone in finding out that Sewell is worthless in the customer service department. And what's really bad is they have a slight ethnic preference. They, according to several friends of mine shopping for Caddy's seem to treat darker pigmented people better over lighter ones. I don't think age has anything to do with it for them.
I guess that explains why the, *ahem*, darker folks were actually getting help.
Which is one of the main reasons why I'd buy a GT over the Infiniti and BMW. Price and noise.
True, it is fairly cheaper, and I'll give it that, but it's still got the V8. V8s usually tend to sound meaner than any V6 or Straight 6 so I personally, would never compare the 2 coupes to the Mustang GT in sound.

But, despite the noise and price, you really don't get the performance or even quality of the other 2. The GT is still great, for the price, but I can't see it's $26,000 tag being chosen over the G's $33,000 & the 335i's $41,000 on daily basis.
 
the new CTS is sweet, although i havent taken a DI model out and raped it yet.

It seems like every CTS around here has been a DIG model with the AWD setup. My assumption has been that they want to appeal to the snowy types before it comes down on us up here, but then again, I'm sure that they could get one to us quickly, given that they build them down the street (well, 35-45 mins down the highway).

I'd still care to put the BMW in the top-spot in this segment, but I'd love to see a shootout with all the new kids together. C/D is due for a comparo...
 
But, despite the noise and price, you really don't get the performance or even quality of the other 2. The GT is still great, for the price, but I can't see it's $26,000 tag being chosen over the G's $33,000 & the 335i's $41,000 on daily basis.

The performance isn't that much less for real world applications. Only on a track will the performance difference become noticable. And, if I use that extra $7,000 in savings (between the G) I could easily put a suspension and a few power mods to put the GT in the same catagory as the other two in terms of performance (more likely more overall performance). Comfort and interior quality not so much however, THAT is where the G and BMW excell over the Mustang. Obviously.
 
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