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Holden or Ford

  • Holden

    Votes: 209 36.2%

  • Ford

    Votes: 175 30.3%

  • Ford and Holden

    Votes: 64 11.1%

  • Nismo

    Votes: 74 12.8%

  • Erebus

    Votes: 7 1.2%

  • Nismo and Erebus

    Votes: 6 1.0%

  • Volvo

    Votes: 43 7.4%
  • Total voters
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I'm fine with it being on 7mate, I do receive the digital and HD channels. It was just a little poke at Ten and their F1 coverage. :p
 
I was mad when there was a sudden long commercial brake on the last 2 laps. Turned out it was some ort of technical glitch with the coverage. Luckily they showed the full replay of the last 2 laps, fantastic racing!
 
peter_vod69
Nice straw man there.
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Oh, look. It's the standard peter_vod tactic of discrediting the idea of making a post in the first place instead of the contents of it. I was wondering when you'd resort to this, though to be honest, I thought I'd see it much sooner.
 
Man I was freaking out when the channel froze. Thought it was the stream at first so I went in search of another one. The next channel was only on lap 42, so I stayed with the first one. Glad they showed the final two laps in replay, the finish was epic! I think Whincup was trying a little too hard there at the end and did himself in. But, that's fine with me! :D
 
R1600Turbo
I think Whincup was trying a little too hard there at the end and did himself in. But, that's fine with me! :D
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He was trying far too hard on the last 2 laps but his chicane strike strategy was brilliant! He saved it all in the early part of the race and only to use all of them on the last 4-5 laps. I think he could've got Winterbottom if not because Winterbottom also save the last stike for the last lap.

EDIT: I wonder what happened to Premat. He had a 4 times trip into the pit lane for cutting the chicane!
 
InvincibleM5
EDIT: I wonder what happened to Premat. He had a 4 times trip into the pit lane for cutting the chicane!
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There was the suggestion that his transponder was not working properly after the car was rebuilt. There may have also been a fault in the system on the circuit, because Will Davison got pinged four times and the team couldn't work out what was happening.
 
That explains why. I think that couldn't be the fault in the system on the circuit though because if it's so, then everybody else should've been affected by this. Unless, there is a specific system for specific driver which I don't think is the case...

Surely we're just speculating, I'd like to hear the outcome of this.

EDIT: Went to the V8 Supercars Official FB page and uh, not a good response from the fans for the last laps coverage glitch :lol:
 
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What an epic finish, thought Whincup would get pass Winterbottom but Mark did a fantastic job to hang on to 1st. Big thumbs up to Fabian Coulthard who finished 5th and the less said about HRT's day the better. :indiff:
 
prisonermonkeys
Oh, look. It's the standard peter_vod tactic of discrediting the idea of making a post in the first place instead of the contents of it. I was wondering when you'd resort to this, though to be honest, I thought I'd see it much sooner.
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Oh look it's the standard prisonermonkeys tactic of resorting to hubris when someone disagrees with you. If you are unable or unwilling to discuss or debate your point of view when someone doesn't agree, then I'd suggest that perhaps internet forums aren't for you. Oh and I should've known you'd resort to this; you've quite the track record.

PS - I'm not sure where the hell I was discrediting you (or your post) - except when you attempted a straw man argument.

FYI (Quoting Wikipedia)

A straw man is a component of an argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.[1] To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.
 
peter_vod69
If you are unable or unwilling to discuss or debate your point of view when someone doesn't agree, then I'd suggest that perhaps internet forums aren't for you.
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I didn't find your argument particularly compelling, and so for the purposes of illustration, I drew a parallel to another situation in which your choice is not limited to what everybody else does simply because everybody else does it in the hopes that you might better understand my argument, and therefore provide a moer-comprehensive argument against. You were the one who took issue with the idea of this being an actual idea, and so attempted to discredit said idea in the vain hope that by invalidating it, you would invalidate all. As an alternative, you could have elaborated on why you feel that it is necessary that V8 Supercars limits itself to one circuit per round - since I clearly didn't find your original argument to be very strong - or even run with the parallel that I drew and integrate it into your own argument to make your point clearer, but instead you chose the more passive-aggressive tactic.

I don't need to refute anything, because I have precedent on my side. V8 Supercars Australia has a well-documented history of introducing format changes to various races for the sake of giving them a little extra personality, and trying to attract a wider fanbase. The idea of running three separate races on three different circuits as part of one round is consistent with this. Your alternate proposal of having one race meeting for each layout breaks character. You never actually provided a solid foundation for this argument other than "it's gimmicky", which can be supplanted with "I don't like it". You then suggested that your proposal was the better because it is consistent with other championships. Since those championships are not run by VESA and since VESA has never observed the practices of any other championship, you have completely failed to validate yoru argument. So all you have really done is said "I don't like it" and then expected the conversation to change to another subject since you had already passed jusgement on it.

So it's very rich of you to accuse me of hubris when this is something that you do in each and every single post you make here. You expect that your word on any subject is final, and when someone disputes that, you resort to passive-aggression as you try to discredit their one post, as if by finding one tiny flaw in their argument, you have somehow invalidated everything that person has ever said on the topic.

You're clearly an intelligent guy, so why don't you start using your powers for good?
 
V8 Supercars Official Channel uploading 2012 races in their entirety to their Youtube!

 
cracking weekend. Was all set to see until DRAMA. Friday woke up early hours of the morning with a sore stomach. Never got back to sleep. Went to V8's still with sore stomach and getting worse. Made it through the day, got the signature of every driver in the championship, plus a couple of others, stomach feeling worse still. Got some incredible footage. Friday evening Partner took me to hospital. Found out my Appendix was inflammed and on it's last life.

Saturday morning, went into surgery. Finally awoke properly saturday evening after race 1. Incredibly gutted but I hear congratulations go to Will Davison.

Sunday morning and I'm feeling a lot better. Eagerly waiting for doctors to check me out and release me from that prison. Mid day comes round and nothing. Ok missed qualifying. 1pm rolls around and BAM! I'm looking good and released. Not to go home but to race 2 of the v8s. No way was I going to miss it. Especially after hearing that Whincup had binned it earlier. So moving very slowly into the circuit I find my friends and wait. Race is on. Rather uneventful. Last 5 laps incredible. Camera at the ready. Watching the big screen in suspense. Will done Frosty. Being a Holden man I still congratulate you.

Slow walk back and fourth through the pits allowed for some great photos and congratulating frosty in person. Also NZD$25 later I found myself in the possesion of a signed Tim slade Wing mirror. Pretty damn good weekend minus the operation on day 2.

Farewell ITM400
 
Race 7 starts at 14:00 local time and according to the weather forecast, it seems like we may see a wet weather race today. The qualifying today seems like going to be a wet one.
 
I didn't mind it too much that Tander spun :lol: but I think Reynolds was in the wrong there
 
magic_town
I didn't mind it too much that Tander spun :lol: but I think Reynolds was in the wrong there
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I'm not sure but I think Reynold got a push from behind. Unlucky for Davison but the FPR boys are looking good!

I wonder what happened to Frosty's front left door. I heard Tander hit it but how did that happen? :lol:
 
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magic_town
I didn't mind it too much that Tander spun :lol: but I think Reynolds was in the wrong there
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I'm going to disagree. He was over to the right, behind Winterbottom pretty much the whole time the pass was being made in front of him. Tander should have known he was there. Reynolds had an opportunity to follow through and take the spot, but Tander got to the corner and just assumed he was clear. He was wrong. :)
 
InvincibleM5
I wonder what happened to Frosty's front left door. I heard Tander hit it but how did that happen? :lol:
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Winterbottom pulled up in his grid spot and he opened his door and Garth was coming down to his grid sport, and whacked frosty's door. It put damage on both cars, and FPR put a new door on.:)

On the subject of Tanders crash, I think it was nether drivers fault, at the start ( me being a HRT one eyed supporter ) I did think it was Reynolds fault, but looking at it in closer detail, I think that Reynolds thought he had the room to do the overtake, even know he didn't, and I don't think Garth knew that Reynolds was trying to overtake at all.:)

Good race and win by winterbottom, especially when his cool suit wasn't working.

Also good race by Courtney, I think that he is starting to get back into race form, but I cant see him winning a race for a while. ;)
 
Matthew77258
On the subject of Tanders crash, I think it was nether drivers fault, at the start ( me being a HRT one eyed supporter ) I did think it was Reynolds fault, but looking at it in closer detail, I think that Reynolds thought he had the room to do the overtake, even know he didn't, and I don't think Garth knew that Reynolds was trying to overtake at all.:)
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I just want to know what the hell Tander was thinking trading paint with Winterbottom on the back straight. There was no need for it.
 
Matthew77258
Winterbottom pulled up in his grid spot and he opened his door and Garth was coming down to his grid sport, and whacked frosty's door. It put damage on both cars, and FPR put a new door on.:)
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Oooh. Thanks mate! I saw the FPR boys were replacing the damaged door but I didn't know how the impact was.

prisonermonkeys
I just want to know what the hell Tander was thinking trading paint with Winterbottom on the back straight. There was no need for it.
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The first one I think was unintentional. The second one was unnecessary as like you said. Winterbottom was clearly on the inside but I heck have no idea why Tander needs to close down to Winterbottom and made the second contact. Because of that, his race was then ruined. Not a good day at all for Garth.
 
prisonermonkeys
I just want to know what the hell Tander was thinking trading paint with Winterbottom on the back straight. There was no need for it.
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Just like Invincible said, i think the first was just unintentional, but the second one confused me. I'm not sure if GT was trying to defend his position or something like that, but I don't think Tander had to do it. It put him in a bad position into turn 7 what then caused him to DNF. Maybe he was trying to do a Rosberg at Bahrain:p

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Race 7 Highlights

 
I suppose we will never know. Lets just hope for a clean and competitive race tomorrow. Its a shame when you see drivers who are quality drivers, get knocked out of so early in the race as shown today. Im sure today (even know it hurts me to say it:p) Davision and Reynolds could of finished in the top 5-10, along with Tander, but there race was ruined with a stupid crash.:)
 
Matthew77258
I suppose we will never know.
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Well, it was Garth Tander, so it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest to learn that he was fuming over the door incident and decided to vent his feelings.

Which is ironic, because he had nothing to complain about. He was the one who hit Winterbottom, not the other way around.
 
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