New GTP Cool Wall Results Archive

Joey D · Sep 2, 2009

Please do not complain about the position of a certain vehicle on the wall, there was already a given debate time for that. The members of GTP have voted and spoken with the level of coolness being determined by the majority.

LORD KELVIN'S ICE BOX

SUB ZERO

COOL

UNCOOL

SERIOUSLY UNCOOL

Joey D · Sep 2, 2009

Text List:

LORD KELVIN'S ICE BOX

1954-1957 Mercedes-Benz 300SL "Gullwing"

SUB-ZERO:

1987-1992 Ferrari F40
1991-1994 Jaguar XJ220
1993-1998 Porsche 911 (993) GT2
1957 Chevrolet 150/210/Bel-Air
1988-1990 Lamborghini Countach 25th Anniversary
1996-2002 Dodge Viper
1959-2000 Mini Cooper
1976-1984 VW Golf GTI
1992-1996 Ford Escort RS Cosworth
1970-1971 Chevelle SS 454 (LS6 option)
1970-1971 Dodge Challenger R/T 426 Hemi
1972-1974 Lancia Stratos
1974-2010 Ford F-Series "Bigfoot" Monster Truck
1999+ Ultima GTR
1985-1986 Lancia Delta S4
2001+ A:Level Volga V12
1964-1966 Ford Mustang
1996-2001 Lotus Elise
1995-1997 Ferrari F50
1998-2003 TVR Cerbera Speed 12

COOL:

1998-2003 Subaru Legacy/Liberty
2003+ Aston Martian DB9
2008+ Porsche 911 (997) GT2
2007+ Nissan GT-R
2004+ Ferrari F430
1998+ Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor
2009+ Nissan 370Z
2007+ Ford Mondeo
2008+ VW Scirocco
2008+ Dodge Challenger R/T
2007+ Mitsubishi Evolution X
2005+ Suzuki Swift Sport
2001-2005 Holden Monaro
2003-2004 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra
2002-2006 Honda Integra Type R
2003-2005 MG Rover XPower SV-R
1988-1996 VW Corrado G60
2003-2006 Ford SportsKa
2009+ NC Mazda MX-5
2007+ Fiat Nuvoa 500
2010+ Ferrari 458 Italia
2011+ Tesla Model S
1969 Pontiac Trans Am
2009+ Lotus Evora
1980-1983 Matra Murena
2008+ Aston Martin V8 Vantage
1986 Ford Sierra Cosworth
1985-1989 Toyota 4Runner/Hilux Surf
1992-2000 Subaru WRX (GC Chassis)
1996–2003 Peugeot 406 Coupe V6
1994-1996 Chevy Impala SS
2001 10th Anniversary Pontiac Firehawk
2010+ Hyundai Genesis Coupé 3.8 V6
1986-1991 Mazda RX-7
1996-2003 Mitsubishi Legnum VR-4 Type V
1994-1997 Volvo 850 R Estate
1992-1997 Maserati Ghibli II
2006+ Alfa Romeo Brera
1974-1980 Triumph Spitfire 1500

UNCOOL:

2008+ Honda Fit/Jazz
2005+ Toyota Aygo
2005+ Renault Grand Espace
2005+ Lexus IS250 SR
2010+ Ford Taurus
1987-1992 Ford Mustang (5.0)
2008+ Honda FCX Clarity
1999-2002 Peugeot 306 GTI-6
2008+ Hyundai Genesis 4.6 Sedan
2009+ BMW 335d LCI
1976-1986 Jeep CJ-7
2004-2008 Acura TSX
1992-1995 Taurus SHO 3.0L
2009+ Mercedes-Benz E-Class Coupé
2009+ Rizk Auto DBR2 Recreation
1989-1991 Ford Taurus SHO

SERIOUSLY UNCOOL:

2007+ MINI Cooper Clubman
2009+ 9ff GT9-R
1982–1988 Cadillac Cimarron

EA11R · Sep 3, 2009

In real life, having things askew and random is natural and cool because it denotes a dismissive, unconcerned way of life. Aligning things is nerdy and hopeless in real life.

In the virtual world, putting things at strange angles -as you have just done- is nothing more than a hopelessly patronizing attempt at capturing the X-treme Vibe.

It's completely idiotic, not to mention painful to look at and very labour-intensive to update. The older format wasn't necesarily perfect, but it was quite good, and everyone would be well-served if you just used the old format.

Capice?

Paulie · Sep 3, 2009

Could I request a text version of the wall too? Some pictures are hard to make out exactly what they are.

bergauk · Sep 3, 2009

Paulie
Could I request a text version of the wall too? Some pictures are hard to make out exactly what they are.

I was thinking more or less of a REALLY large image instead.

Joey D · Sep 3, 2009

There it's back the way it was.

EA11R · Sep 4, 2009

Thank you!

Also, Taurus is uncool? oh well...

niky · Sep 4, 2009

Hmmmm... will look later, but I have an idea that we could rank each within each zone of "cool" and "uncool" depending on the proportion of the votes.

Joey D · Sep 4, 2009

I don't know if we are going to change the way the votes are counted. Basically if the majority says uncool then the car is uncool and nothing more or less.

Ardius · Sep 4, 2009

Its fine as it is, no need to make a simple concept complicated. That would be uncool

niky · Sep 4, 2009

Needless complication is never uncool. Rube Goldberg Rules. That's the real reason Mythbusters is such a great show... it's not the myths... it's the contraptions!

Casio · Sep 9, 2009

I think you should headline the categories with:

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Danny · Sep 15, 2009

I'm noticing a theme... if it's remotely practical, it's uncool.

Joey D · Sep 15, 2009

Ya I don't really understand the bases of something being cool to be honest. I don't really find supercars all that cool for the most part but hey majority rules.

I think it should be someone's mission to find a cool, practical car and nominate it.

Famine · Sep 15, 2009

Nissan GT-R...

Boffin · Sep 15, 2009

The Volvo 850 estate was the first Volvo to be dubbed as a cool car - car journos said it handled pretty well too.

Dragonistic · Sep 15, 2009

Danny
I'm noticing a theme... if it's remotely practical, it's uncool.

Well whats cool about practicality? The car needs something else on top of that to make it cool, and most practical cars don't have much to be worth a second look.

Can you honestly imagine someone detailing how much rear leg room, and how bigger their cars boot is in relation to other cars, as a way of proving how cool there car is? To put it in simple terms, whats cooler, mpg or mph?

Although there are plenty of cool practical cars around, you can see why a majority will vote for something made to be fast/stylish over something to be practical/economical.

Danny · Sep 15, 2009

Dragonistic
Well whats cool about practicality? The car needs something else on top of that to make it cool, and most practical cars don't have much to be worth a second look.

Well I realise it's objective, but I know for sure a lot of people think the Volvo 240 GL is intensely cool.

But consider why that is. It's practical and safe, no doubt. But judge it by any other yardstick and it's horrific.

Cars like this, from what I understand, are cool because they don't need to be. It's like the Napoleon Dynamite effect. Or Geek Chic, for that matter.

The Supercars we've discussed are more often than not considered to be cool because they look good, go fast, or both. It appeals to the right hemisphere of the brain which values emotional impact and social appeal. The part that wants to be seen in a status symbol, not a car. But what if we judged "cool" based on logic and practicality (which we are capable of doing)? That's the left hemisphere's forte, and would completely turn the GTP cool wall on it's head.

Ardius · Sep 15, 2009

The Volvo is cool because it was involved in touring car racing

I imagine that would have a lot to with it anyway.

Danny · Sep 15, 2009

The 240 Estate wasn't

Ardius · Sep 15, 2009

No, but this was:

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The Volvo 850 estate was the first Volvo to be dubbed as a cool car - car journos said it handled pretty well too.

Dragonistic · Sep 15, 2009

Danny
Well I realise it's objective, but I know for sure a lot of people think the Volvo 240 GL is intensely cool.

It's cool because it doesn't try to be cool, it's raw simplicity, but I still think it would struggle to make it into the cool section on a poll. I would vote it cool, but I'm not explaining what I think makes a car cool in my opinion, but what makes a car cool in alot of other peoples opinion.

I think practical cars are plenty cool as long as they don't try to hard like say the Mini Clubman, which is clearly trying to be cool and it just fails. Same goes for the Hyundai Genesis, it looks like it's trying to be like every other car, which makes it uncool. There are always exceptions to rules, because cool isn't just speed and looks, but practicality isn't what makes the Volvo cool I think.

Joey D · Sep 15, 2009

I'd be surprised, I think most people here think cool = performance although the latest 9ff thread might change that.

Ardius · Sep 15, 2009

Joey D
I'd be surprised, I think most people here think cool = performance although the latest 9ff thread might change that.

Well that 9ff doesn't have great performance except for top speed statistics....

Dragonistic · Sep 15, 2009

I think the 9ff still might turn around and make it into cool based on the figures it has. I would nominate the Veyron in the hope that it would be uncool because I hate it with a burning passion, but I sense it would be cool or ice cold.

C-ZETA · Sep 15, 2009

dragonistic
i think the 9ff still might turn around and make it into cool based on the figures it has.

+1.

niky · Sep 16, 2009

You're asking a video game forum full of 13 year olds... wait... now they're all at least 18 by now... what defines cool, and they're invariably going to vote for the fastest, flashiest pieces of metal out there...

We've already had three practical cars sneak into subzero. Okay... two maybe practical ones and one dinosaur... no... scratch that... one dinosaur, one tinny little sardine can and one practical Golf... well... considering the Golf is a sardine can, too...

A practical car will need character to win a subzero. The 850 T5R might do it... but I don't know if enough people know what it is... the one immensely practical car I had hopes of seeing subzero, the Fit, never even made it to cool (you damn Philistines! I bet half of you have never even driven one! Let alone sideways! :lol:

(I've changed my mind about the second generation... yes, ma, it can hoon...))

The Mini Clubman made seriously uncool not because it's practical. But because it's stupid. You sacrifice the iconic design of the new Mini (yes, I think the design can stand on its own, despite its overt retro-ness) for extra luggage space. That's missing the point of why you'd buy the car in the first place... and it still doesn't make it as practical as, say... buying a Honda Fit... which is not seriously uncool... just moderately so, according to our panel of judges. :lol:

Tornado · Sep 16, 2009

Ardius
No, but this was:

Isn't that the one that they had the ad of the Countach pulling a trailer? Either way, the 850 was the FWD one, so it can't be as cool as the 240. Its like a law.

Ardius · Sep 16, 2009

Toronado
Isn't that the one that they had the ad of the Countach pulling a trailer? Either way, the 850 was the FWD one, so it can't be as cool as the 240. Its like a law.

I think it can:

Boffin · Sep 16, 2009

Also the 850R had 4WD if I'm not mistaken.

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