Where is multi-class racing?

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I just don't understand how the game ships without a multi-class event nor the ability to race multi-class online and have the separate standings and results in the same race as in real life. I thought it would have been a definite that GT5 would have this but alas it's doesn't. Let me tell you, there's nothing like it. It's probably the most fun I've had racing online ever and when you make it a team-based thing (which is ANOTHER feature missing from the online options) it's just the hottest racing you can have.

Helping your teammate ,who's in another class of car, whenever you can while concentrating on your own battles is golden. You get so much more to the racing. I've had races where my teammate helped me alot as I've helped him. Had races where my teammate inadvertently screw me only to come back around a few laps later and make up for it. All the while other teams are helping/hurting their guys and ALL while everyone it vying for gold. Anyone else was/is looking for multi-class racing in the game?
 
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Easy to add, radical in how it changes the race dynamics. To have Sarthe, Laguna Seca, Nordschliese etc, and then be unable to leverage these courses the way they are often used is simple laziness on PD's part. We have prototypes, we have GT cars. Why aren't we racing them together on the same course but scored differently?

It's the LITTLE things that make a big difference. Not how well modeled a taillight is...
 
IMO there is a bunch of things PD needs to get right before that might work...racing online with human is not hard to code the Multi-class, but incorporate that in A-sped will take some work with the AI we got now. Since their awareness of you is pretty shoddy, and their tendency to just barge back to their line regardless if you are there or not will just mean that if you are passing a back marker or something they might just take you out period...

I've been trying to run A-spec endurance races with similar-ish car to AI and its frustrating when you can't race wheel to wheel with them with any degree of confidence that they just bang into you...for me that is just bad coming from this long after GT4 and racing with somewhat competent AI in wide variety of PC based racing game...
 
kuyaglen
X1 vs Go Karts!!!
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LOL, Ok we're not talking "out of this world, suicide" multi-class. Maybe something a little closer than that. lol

See this is what i thought we'd be getting in GT5. FM3 does it and I knew for sure not only GT5 would do it but we'd be able to save results and actually create a series sorta like how you can do leagues online with most sports games. Maybe even have a site where people can go look at the standings, times and such. This was a major disappointment for me to be honest. And like Destinkeys, aside from the online leagues and such, I thought the implementation of this would be fairly easy and a given. I'm longing for the days that I can have the same level of excitement in GT5 that I had in the following video.

PS: There was so much excitement in this race. I took aero damage and some mechanical trying to get around a slower GT car and had to pit earlier than was part of my pit strategy. I kept it out there for a few laps but I knew I couldn't finish it that way. When the race was over I JUST ran out of gas. I took a chance and it paid off. Not to mention all the excitement of the race itself. Getting past the slower GT cars, not trying to screw yourself nor my teammate when passing. Not giving a damn about the other guys teammate, lol. Great stuff.

PPS: Oh and by the way, I would LOVE to do videos using GT5 replays but PD if you think I'm sticking a camera in front of a TV to capture it PUHLEASE!

 
There's a multi-class race on SPEED channel right now so you guys can see some of the action for yourselves for those of you who have no clue about it.
 
t.o.
There's a multi-class race on SPEED channel right now so you guys can see some of the action for yourselves for those of you who have no clue about it.
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that multiclass race is one of the biggest in the sport, the 24hrs at Daytona :)

and yes, it would be awesome to see that in GT5, especially in the endurance races.
 
victorb81
that multiclass race is one of the biggest in the sport, the 24hrs at Daytona :)

and yes, it would be awesome to see that in GT5, especially in the endurance races.
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Yeah, they could even give out a few bootleg Rolex's to the winners. ;)
Seriously though I was hoping a few more people would like to see more racing elements in this racing game. Too many people want to see if their "real life car is in the game" and "collecting" than getting more beef in the racing options. Nothing wrong with those things but just saying.
 
t.o.
PPS: Oh and by the way, I would LOVE to do videos using GT5 replays but PD if you think I'm sticking a camera in front of a TV to capture it PUHLEASE!
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They make capture cards for this very reason....
 
GTPorsche
They make capture cards for this very reason....
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Absolutely NO reason why I should have to go out and spend MORE money on something that not only should be in the game but by all accounts from what I can tell is probably already in the game just not implemented. See the video above? No card was needed, everything was in the game for me to get footage to my computer. Besides for quite a few of us it's impractical. I do my racing in my living room the vast majority of the time so I'm supposed to drag my computer out of one room to another just to get footage? No way.
 
The A.I needs more attention before they add something like this, and it would never work online cause no one wold be willing to run in a sower class, everyone always wants to be the fastest car. This will never work and won't happen sadly. Next thought...
 
If mixed class racing is to be introduced, first of all it HAS to be FULL damage only. With closing speeds as high as this has, allowing the prototypes to barge around is a recipe for epic fail.

Secondly, I don't think the AI HAS to be improve as a condition for this to exist (although it needs to be improved for ALL racing in general). We already have many races (Like the Wind, for example) where there are MUCH slower cars you have to get around. You get used to the AI, no matter WHAT mode you use...

And, primarily, I see this as a mode for online, where everyone is more competitive and even. But even in offline, GT could benefit enormously from it. More cars and tracks is a subject for the DLC debate. But we already have sufficient GT and prototype class cars to run this. Only the MODE remains unimplemented.

B-Spec browser mode? Who in their right minds wants THAT over something like this..?!💡
 
Rdp616
The A.I needs more attention before they add something like this, and it would never work online cause no one wold be willing to run in a sower class, everyone always wants to be the fastest car. This will never work and won't happen sadly. Next thought...
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LMAO!!!! No one would be willing to run in a slower class?
http://wheelracers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=124

Did you even look at the video posted above? Did you even read my whole post? Next thought .....

I DO agree about the AI however.
 
GOTMAXPOWER
That can be done on GT5 too except with double the cars ,it's just a lobby set up with no restrictions.
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Problem is the standings will be all messed up and you wont get rewarded as you would if it was separate standings like how FM3 does it. Also during the race you would have to decipher were you are in relation to your direct competitors. You really don't care what place other cars are in relation to each others in a different class. You just want to know where you are in relation to your class.
 
FM3 gets it right (including the cars and tracks) and GT5 COMPLETELY misses it altogether. So much for the 'Ultimate' anything...
 
t.o.
LMAO!!!! No one would be willing to run in a slower class?
http://wheelracers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=124

Did you even look at the video posted above? Did you even read my whole post? Next thought .....

I DO agree about the AI however.
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Actually no, i didn't really read your post or look at the video. I know what you mean tho. GT class VS LMP etc, and that's what i mean. EVERYONE would want to run in the LMP class. You wouldn't get anyone using a GT car cause everyone is powermad on GT5.

Too many immature first time GT noobs to have something like this work smoothly. Tho i do agree this would be awesome and would love to join myself, it would be more of a hassle than it's worth.

EDIT: Unless PD implemented this kind of racing through an update.
 
Rdp616
Actually no, i didn't really read your post or look at the video. I know what you mean tho. GT class VS LMP, and that's what i mean. EVERYONE would want to run in the LMP class. You wouldn't get anyone using a GT car cause everyone is powermad on GT5.

Too many immature first time GT noobs to have something like this work smoothly. Tho i do agree this would be awesome and would love to join myself, it would be more of a hassle than it's worth...
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What I was saying is this isn't some kook idea that seems like it would work. It's something that I've been doing, with the group I race with for the better part of all last year. It's a helluva lotta fun and people will have NO problem racing the slower rigs as the action is just as tight there as it is in the faster car. So this isn't a theoretical thing. This is something that I have done and was a great success. The video shows the different teams, classes and cars.

So to say "nobody wants to drive the slower cars" was kinda ridiculous when I already said we were doing it. It may not be something to do in a public lobby, and then again I think it would work there too. Some people are just more comfortable in the slower cars and feel they could dominate that field better than the faster cars.
 
t.o.
What I was saying is this isn't some kook idea that seems like it would work. It's something that I've been doing, with the group I race with for the better part of all last year. It's a helluva lotta fun and people will have NO problem racing the slower rigs as the action is just as tight there as it is in the faster car. So this isn't a theoretical thing. This is something that I have done and was a great success. The video shows the different teams, classes and cars.

So to say "nobody wants to drive the slower cars" was kinda ridiculous when I already said we were doing it. It may not be something to do in a public lobby, and then again I think it would work there too. Some people are just more comfortable in the slower cars and feel they could dominate that field better than the faster cars.
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I was referring to a public lobby, it would be like trying to corral retarded chickens. But if you get it to work 👍. I'm just going from my personal experience with some people online. And if you wouldn't mind i'd be glad to join you sometime.
 
All that needs adding to the game would be a separate class leaderboard, multiple class payouts for cr. and XP, and maybe a few events that showcase it. It might encourage GT class participation as well to up the prize money for the lower classes.

It seems so little...

Which is probably what will make it unlikely to appear. It seems that, in GT5, the simplest solutions that have the biggest impact get ignored, while tough to implement things that do next to nothing to help the game's progress structure or expand its scope get the priority at PD headquarters.

It's kinda weird, because, IRL, Kaz actually DOES participate in multi-class racing. But then again there seems to be an enormous disconnect between what Kaz races IRL and what the game makes you do...

It just makes me more and more believe that Kaz doesn't really WANT to play the game much, any more.
 
Rdp616
I was referring to a public lobby, it would be like trying to corral retarded chickens. But if you get it to work 👍. I'm just going from my personal experience with some people online. And if you wouldn't mind i'd be glad to join you sometime.
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No prob. Unfortunately , until PD address some things (well quite a few things), that series probably won't see the light of day in GT5. We'll probably run it again in FM3, definitely in FM4 if they don't screw it up. Which reminds me, I need to update something over at the Sony forums. But until they at least get these basic things in the game I don't see it happening (lack of cockpits is also a HUGE hit). We're doing other stuff though if you want to get in. Join up at wheelracers.com. Just remember , we're not fanboys of any particular racing game. We just like racing whatever, whenever.
 
t.o.
No prob. Unfortunately , until PD address some things (well quite a few things), that series probably won't see the light of day in GT5. We'll probably run it again in FM3, definitely in FM4 if they don't screw it up. Which reminds me, I need to update something over at the Sony forums. But until they at least get these basic things in the game I don't see it happening (lack of cockpits is also a HUGE hit). We're doing other stuff though if you want to get in. Join up at wheelracers.com. Just remember , we're not fanboys of any particular racing game. We just like racing whatever, whenever.
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Sounds good, tho i only have a PS3, GT5 and F1 2010
 
Rdp616
Sounds good, tho i only have a PS3, GT5 and F1 2010
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No problem man. The only requirement is some races (well most if not all, hence the "wheel" in wheelracers lol) will require you to have a steering wheel. Do you have one?
 
t.o.
No problem man. The only requirement is some races (well most if not all, hence the "wheel" in wheelracers lol) will require you to have a steering wheel. Do you have one?
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Yessir. Just got my Fanatec GT3rs about 3 weeks ago. I've been trying to find some people to get some races going on in F1 2010.
 
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Rdp616
Yessir. Just got my Fanatec GT3rs about 3 weeks ago. I've been trying to find some people to get some races going on in F1 2010.
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Good pick guy. I got the Fanatec 911 Turbo S with the Clubsports. Damn if you had that game on 360 or I had it on PS3 we could have went a few laps.

EDIT: If you want we could run some of these cars I'm watching in the Rolex 24 Hr race. Would like to put the Camaro, RX8, M3, 911(ooops sorry forgot ;) ) et al and see how competitive they are stock against each other. Also wonder what you'd have to do to get them like they are on TV. I'll probably get on after this race is over.
 
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t.o.
Good pick guy. I got the Fanatec 911 Turbo S with the Clubsports. Damn if you had that game on 360 or I had it on PS3 we could have went a few laps.

EDIT: If you want we could run some of these cars I'm watching in the Rolex 24 Hr race. Would like to put the Camaro, RX8, M3, 911(ooops sorry forgot ;) ) et al and see how competitive they are stock against each other. Also wonder what you'd have to do to get them like they are on TV. I'll probably get on after this race is over.
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That'd be cool, if you can get a few other guy's to drive the others that would be even better.
 
Let me charge up my blutooth real quick. Hopefully we can get some guys on and mess around. Which leads me to another thing: We need a "chat pool" or something to that affect (or as the 360 calls it "Party Chat") that way we can race, get out of race, continue talking, talk about some upgrades, get back into race and not lose contact with each other.
 
t.o.
Let me charge up my blutooth real quick. Hopefully we can get some guys on and mess around. Which leads me to another thing: We need a "chat pool" or something to that affect (or as the 360 calls it "Party Chat") that way we can race, get out of race, continue talking, talk about some upgrades, get back into race and not lose contact with each other.
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Yeah i agree. I need to charge my bluetooth up aswell. just send me an add on the PSN.
 

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