Why are so many on this forum intent on being faux-moderators?

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Excuse me for doing a little venting here, but I am beginning to get a little frustrated at finding these little grammar wars and the like in threads when I am looking for legitimate information about the topic. I was under the impression that we had actual admins on GTPlanet to moderate and let someone know when they've crossed the line? I personally just wish that people would make more effort to contribute to the conversation than to find a reason to pick apart someones statement.
 
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Excuse me for doing a little venting here, but I am beginning to get a little frustrated at finding these little grammar wars and the like in threads when I am looking for legitimate information about the topic. I was under the impression that we had actual admins on GTPlanet to moderate and let someone know when they've crossed the line? I personally just wish that people would make more effort to contribute to the conversation than to find a reason to pick apart someones statement.
Theyre doing their jobs, and enforce the rules of the aup. BUT i agree with you, 100% though, it keeps the forums from flooding, and threads from being looked like theyre ruled by idiots, that doesnt know how to speak properly, even the grown ups we are. Grammar should be necessary
 
I'm not referring to those putting links to other threads, I mean I personally find that to be equally as helpful, more to those that are writing stuff like this -

Anonymous1
That's not bad driving as much as it is showing off. Bad driving is doing something directly to an opponent's car to cause them to wreck. All you're doing is obscuring their vision, no different then bump drafting someone in a RAM Pickup Truck.

Anonymous2
Wreck is a noun, CRASH is the verb, and in your case you want the Verb.

THEN & THAN are two different words with different meanings. If you don't know the difference between then and than then I suggest you look them up, it'd be better than misusing words.
 
/\ That's a little overboard.....

I'll do the 'faux mod' thing but I'll really just call people out on their grammar/spelling and direct them to the AUP. Good spelling and grammar makes posts easier to read and understand and it's especially helpful for the members where English isn't their first language.
 
I luv dis fred lolz..

Lol only joking, i agree with you though. They should leave it to the moderators. Im sure jordan would recruit some more mods if the site was needed of some "enforcers" to clamp down of some petty rule breakers.. 👍
 
Many people out here are huge mod-wannabes and many people here have a strong case of OCD.
Just ignore them.

Prime example of what you're saying is in here.

EDIT: I didn't read the title, on topic I don't know why...some people mostly likely hope that they'll be moderators one day.
Like, "use the search button" which is totally broken to be honest.


I did it a few times, just to piss people off though. 👍
 
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Perhaps there are a lot of English Language Majors here. :D
Language and majors don't need capitals do they?
'Major' applied to a subject of study is a North American word. Not proper English English, but we can use it. :)
'Major in' (subject) is also used in Australia / New Zealand.
 
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I'm just glad some of us can laugh about it and get back to the fun.
 
/\ That's a little overboard.....

I'll do the 'faux mod' thing but I'll really just call people out on their grammar/spelling and direct them to the AUP. Good spelling and grammar makes posts easier to read and understand and it's especially helpful for the members where English isn't their first language.

I may be new to this particular forum but I have been on forums for years. On the others I tend to be a grammer Nazi myself, but only in efforts to help fellows forumers to be able to understand others where English isn't there first language.


Pretty much what you said. I just want everyone to be able to come to a forum, ask a question, and be able to have another member reply with a legit answer that is understandable. I may have my typo's here and there, or a slight flaw. In no way, shape, or form am I perfect (but who is?), therfeore I am not saying I don't make mistakes, but I'm only trying to help being the good natured person I am.
 
Ooh... I wanna be a mod... me! Me! Me!

But seriously (moves thread to the correct section), moderation positions here are by merit and selection of the administration, and not due to any amount of in-thread moderation.

They're looking more for an attitude. And the attitude of being an "in-your-face" police-person isn't it.

Which is why we tell people: If you see an issue, report it. If it's not a reportable offense, leave it be.

Yes, we tend to be Grammar Nazis around here, but that's because, as said, this is a board with many non-English speakers, and not all of us speak 1337, txtspk or Ali G..

Thank you for your interest in this site and the interest in improving it. 👍
 
Revilucion!! I smell a coup coming on! Jk... But I think some people come on here strictly to tout their "superior" intelligence and make other people feel dumb. Its kinda sad.
 
I knew there was a reason why I joined your race league...cause you think clear and it's just a great league. But really back to the point it's quite true, if faux or mini moderators were needed, then the true mod squad police wouldn't be needed or 1/4th of the forum would be mods. It gets annoying when someone comes in tries hard to be some faux prophetic english major just to make other people seem stupid or destroy their thread that may have legit info though the author might not have the best writing. The only thing that makes it worse is when they jump in a thread and start saying how the topic at hand is on another thread or that the OP should do a search instead of making a new thread. There seems to be many smug and arrogant users on this forum. So I 100% agree.

Ooh... I wanna be a mod... me! Me! Me!

But seriously (moves thread to the correct section), moderation positions here are by merit and selection of the administration, and not due to any amount of in-thread moderation.

They're looking more for an attitude. And the attitude of being an "in-your-face" police-person isn't it.

Which is why we tell people: If you see an issue, report it. If it's not a reportable offense, leave it be.

Yes, we tend to be Grammar Nazis around here, but that's because, as said, this is a board with many non-English speakers, and not all of us speak 1337, txtspk or Ali G..

Thank you for your interest in this site and the interest in improving it. 👍

Also Nicky cause I think your cool I'll ask this

"Iz it cuz i iz black?"
 
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Maybe you should just go faux moderate yourself. :p
 
Quoting myself from earlier today:
TB
Provided they simply offer reminders of what is expected from the AUP and don't overstep their bounds (they are "just" members, too, after all), you would do well to learn something from these "pseudo-mods".

However. If they do appear to be overstepping, by all means use the Report button. While the staff certainly appreciates an extra hand when appropriate, the wrong direction does us no favors.
 
"Iz it cuz i iz black?"

Don't be a spanner. "It" ain't a real word. It's really short for "innit." :D

But, aherm... must not get carried away.

Like TB says, we appreciate it when people, upon seeing a redundant thread or misplaced post/thread, point out an appropriate place or pre-existing thread for the newbie to go to. Or if they gently (gently!) remind them of the AUP grammar provisions... but if it turns into an all out debate, leave that to the mods.
 
I don't know why, but I have a strong feeling that the "faux-moderators" that you speak of are trying desperately to become moderators.
Excuse me for doing a little venting here, but I am beginning to get a little frustrated at finding these little grammar wars and the like in threads when I am looking for legitimate information about the topic. I was under the impression that we had actual admins on GTPlanet to moderate and let someone know when they've crossed the line? I personally just wish that people would make more effort to contribute to the conversation than to find a reason to pick apart someones statement.

I admit that I once wrote something unrelated to the thread (right here). In my defence though, I wrote that because the title could've wasted a lot of people's time by viewing the thread not knowing that the title is misleading (the original title was "Seasonal events rally!").

My point is that if the "offense" (for lack of a better word) doesn't affect YOU, then just use the Report Button rather than post something unnecessary.
 
I personally just wish that people would make more effort to contribute to the conversation than to find a reason to pick apart someones statement.

I have to admit I've done this a few times, but it's literally a handful of times in over 1000 posts.

I don't think it's as bad now as what it was a few months ago, also certain regular moderator wannabe's who had quite a reputation for themselves seemed to have stopped their antics (thankfully).

But generally I do agree with you, there's too many people who are more interested in pointing out others mistakes than either trying to help someone or contribute to the discussion / topic.

There does sometime seem to be an unoffical competition amongst some members to see who can be most 'right' about as much as possible, you try to tell these guys anything different or give them a taste of their own medicine and all hell breaks loose. If you have the audacity to question their deemed superiority or status and put a crack their oh so fragile ego's it's as though you've just burnt their house down and killed their family, or worse.

I think this website is sometimes a victim of it's own success with this, many people in this world are competitive and status conscious, they want to be part of something successful. They 'build a position' on here and anyone that dares to question or undermine that deemed position or self appointed status just gets shot down in flames by any means necessary - and unfortunately, any kind of AUP violation is used to either reinforce or act a valid reason for these actions.

Shame really, there's some pretty cool guys on here, but also, there's alot of pretty cool guys I know who are still registered as members but have long since 'given up ' on this site - for the aforementioned reasons.

But with 190,000+ members, I have to admit I do get the feeling the site staff aren't too bothered about those who have given up, as there seems to be plenty more to replace them.

However, quantity, unfortunately, does not always guarantee quality. Personally I'd much prefer to see alot less members, but alot more altruistic, matured attitude and chilled out members rather than ego maniacs and competion to see who an be most right. Then again this is a business and as we all know, what's good for business isn't necessarily good for everyone concerned with that business - c'est la vie, deal with it or go elsewhere (I know). This is a private site, un-regulated and therefore it's run and it's rules enforced in a way seen fit by those that run it - you got to accept that or don't come here, because the likelihood is that won't ever change.

The attitude of some of the mods at some times don't help either, customer service, political correctness and diplomacy skills don't seem to be high on the agenda for some of them. Whereas reinforcing their postion on here and justifiying that by what they do in real life, aswell as sarcastic comments seems to be more important in some situations. If they act in this manner, what kind of example are they setting for others and is it no surprise that members will see this and act in the same way too because they think that's "how to do things" on here.

Other websites don't seem to have Mods with this attitude, I got many Mods and Admin staff from other GT forums on my friends list, they come into my lobby to chat or my race series regularly and have a much friendlier attitude, but if anyone steps out of line, they'll punish that person as necessary. They have a respect for fellow members and will often try to help and encourage, not this Headmaster talking to a naughty pupil attitude of some of the mods on here, which I feel others see and try to emulate.

I understand the grammer 'police' - this website is shared by many around the world who don't speak English as their first language, so proper grammer, spelling and punctuation should be practised at all times. I think this is a good idea and enforcing this should be a high priority, but it should be left to those who's job it is to do so, or the report button facility.

I know this might seem like an attack on the site staff and Mods, but it isn't, I'm just expressing my opinion. I've had some good experiences and responses with some Mods who have been very helpful, then again, I've experienced and seen things by the Mods that I feel are well out of order. What was said in this post isn't supposed to stir up hornet's nest amongst the site staff, just try and provide insight as to the problems the OP (and myself, plus many others) have experienced which we feel are detrimental to this site. Maybe these might be taken into consideration in the future, which, ultimately will make more member's experience of this site more enjoyable and be a win win situation for everyone.

Either that, or I'm gonna get shot down in flames, banned etc etc etc ..... oh well, I'll guess we'll see.

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Like TB says, we appreciate it when people, upon seeing a redundant thread or misplaced post/thread, point out an appropriate place or pre-existing thread for the newbie to go to. Or if they gently (gently!) remind them of the AUP grammar provisions... but if it turns into an all out debate, leave that to the mods.

Yup. I am actually a Supermod on another 300,000+ member forum and from experience I can say leave it to the mods. If you see a post that violates forum rules, instead of posting your comment in response to theirs, just report it for a mod to deal with. They were given their mod status because they know how to handle situations like these.

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IMO, I'm not that much of a grammar Nazi myself. Learning to spell was something to be left in grade school. As long as you get the gist of what someone is saying, that's a-okay with me :D
 
I don't know if it is necessarily the most correct thing to do, I have taken to writing something to the effect of "Thankyou for the insight minimods" when they are having one of those grammar/wrong forum battles in a thread that I would like to contribute to. I mean I wouldn't find it to be such an issue if they would at least make the effort to put their criticisms into polite terms and suggestions instead of trying to give off an air of superiority. I wonder how many new members they manage to drive off by being arrogant in reply to their first couple posts?
 
I don't usually get on people for grammar exactly, as a lot of the members on this site are not from english speaking countries. What bugs me the most is when people don't use proper capital letters or finish their sentences off with proper punctuation. Those are pretty common sense items that are used in any language. For that, I do tend to get on people for it, but I do it as nicely as I can.

Double and triple posters are another issue...
 
I try to help people realise any mistakes in grammar they've made for their own benefit and for the others here that may not be native speakers. I do a lot of 'grammar nazi...ing' because, to be honest, it keeps my own abilities sharp and that's rather necessary for my line of work.

I don't do these thing because I want to be a mod, god knows it can't be an easy job, I'd rather, like most members, just enjoy the forum without having hand out warnings and check that members are behaving properly.

I'll be the first to admit that my browser has a spell check add-on. It's not because I can't spell but because sometimes while typing mistakes are made without being realised. I doesn't hurt to proof read a post before it's submitted.
 
I'm very glad someone made a thread about this and brought up an important issue in this forum.
 
I don't know if it is necessarily the most correct thing to do, I have taken to writing something to the effect of "Thankyou for the insight minimods" when they are having one of those grammar/wrong forum battles in a thread that I would like to contribute to. I mean I wouldn't find it to be such an issue if they would at least make the effort to put their criticisms into polite terms and suggestions instead of trying to give off an air of superiority. I wonder how many new members they manage to drive off by being arrogant in reply to their first couple posts?

Don't be disheartened.

GTPlanet is a huge community and it's inevitable that a few people will join who are needlessly pedantic when it comes to things like grammar, spelling etc. The AUP asks members to ensure their spelling, punctuation and grammar is up to an acceptable standard because we have a lot of overseas members for whom English isn't a first language and it makes things as easy to read as possible for them.

However, tiny and insignificant mistakes aside, I can't see any problem with your own posts, so my advice would simply be to avoid feeding the trolls. If people are literally picking faults with semantics then they've clearly nothing better to do and your best bet is to ignore them.

The example you posted on the last page definitely wasn't worth somebody complaining about, IMO.

The only thing people really object to on this forum is constant poor spelling, punctuation and grammar, "txt spk", overuse of acronyms - basically, anything that makes reading a post as difficult as possible. When people post in that manner, then expect to see a stream of posts correcting them!
 
I think the keyword here is 'effort'. If you at least try to make your post readable by using capitals, punctuation and something that resembles grammar, nobody will complain that you made a spelling or grammar error or two. Ignore the people that do. 👍
 
I think the keyword here is 'effort'. If you at least try to make your post readable by using capitals, punctuation and something that resembles grammar, nobody will complain that you made a spelling or grammar error or two.

This. If you don't care about what you're saying enough to make it legible, why should I care enough to decipher it? I tend to check the location field when reading a post written in poor English - if the poster is from a non-English speaking country, fair enough. If they're from the USA or another country where English is the first language, there's no excuse - dyslexia included; Scaff, one of our long-standing mods, is dyslexic, so he puts more effort into posting something readable than most of us do.

But with 190,000+ members, I have to admit I do get the feeling the site staff aren't too bothered about those who have given up, as there seems to be plenty more to replace them.

However, quantity, unfortunately, does not always guarantee quality. Personally I'd much prefer to see alot less members, but alot more altruistic, matured attitude and chilled out members rather than ego maniacs and competion to see who an be most right. Then again this is a business and as we all know, what's good for business isn't necessarily good for everyone concerned with that business - c'est la vie, deal with it or go elsewhere (I know). This is a private site, un-regulated and therefore it's run and it's rules enforced in a way seen fit by those that run it - you got to accept that or don't come here, because the likelihood is that won't ever change.

One of the reasons this site is as successful as it is is because of the attitude towards good grammar and spelling. We'll lose members who don't want to follow the strict rules, but there's plenty who stay becuase the rules are in place. In this respect, quality is put ahead of quantity - if we relaxed the rules a lot more people would stay, but as they'd mostly be posting poorly typed tripe, the majority of the current forum posters would leave.

This is the only forum I post on nowadays because of the rules on grammar and spelling being enforced. 99% of Internet forums and message boards don't have our high expectations - if you want to post nonsense, go to one of those instead.

The example in the original post is far to petty, though - there's always someone who takes it too far. Ignore them.
 
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