Why are so many on this forum intent on being faux-moderators?

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This isn't looking very nice. People are allowed to have differing opinions. We like to help, and most of the people we help don't mind and let us help. You guys don't like it when we help, and we can't change your opinion. Why not just leave it there?

And IMO is very widely used up here, an exception of sorts. It isn't "lol wut r u doin tmmrw" by any stretch of the imagination.
 
Caz
Umm, I am not sure what IMO means. Is that some form of text speak?


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Just an anachronism of In My Opinion. Tree'd anyway. :indiff:

If faux-mods wanna do what they do, I don't mind, but if they overuse their skill it does become tedious just having them say AUP regulations for every post they make. I don't do that though, I do redirect to other threads a decent amount though...
 
Well, I'm on an actual computer 5% of the time up here because I'm hardly ever home, I use the Android app. It's not that hard to spend that much time up here.
 
Max Powers
spend all day every day here = become a fake mod

flawless math there.
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Not what I said. I said because I am on here a lot, I tend see things quicker.
 
If you guys really do want to help, I don't see the problem in sending them a private message. IMHO, all you're doing is embarrassing them publicly while spamming the forums.
 
I don't get embarrassed when people correct me when I make a mistake. "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." That's why I try to help people, I tell them what I know, and if I come up short somewhere, I'm eager to figure out where they can fill up the empty spots in my head.

I also don't think it would be embarrassing unless some flamed/insulted you. Which neither I nor R16 does.
 
Max Powers
spend all day every day here = become a fake mod

flawless math there.
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

1241Penguin
If you guys really do want to help, I don't see the problem in sending them a private message. IMHO, all you're doing is embarrassing them publicly while spamming the forums.
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But then how would they get the inflated sense of self worth if they didn't point out everyone else's mistakes and short comings? :scared:
 
ChaosStar79
But then how would they get the inflated sense of self worth if they didn't point out everyone else's mistakes and short comings?
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Isn't that what you're doing right now to R16 and I? Pointing out our so-called "mistakes?"

CAMjhr
That's why I try to help people, I tell them what I know, and if I come up short somewhere, I'm eager to figure out where they can fill up the empty spots in my head.
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That's why I try to help people, if you bothered to read my post. Not an "inflated sense of self worth."
 
I don't see much of an issue with other members being "faux-mods" and reminding others (politely) of the AUP, provided that wasn't their sole purpose for posting in the thread. Responding to the topic at hand and then providing a gentle reminder of what the user agreed to upon joining doesn't strike me as overboard. I use a different analogy than the one from the last page - if I'm visiting another country, I'd sure prefer a friendly reminder from one of the natives about their expectations than get it from their respective boys in blue.

This just applies (again, for me) to the grammar/txtspk issues though, since those are definitely the majority when it comes to AUP violations, and that qualifier of "politely" can't be stressed enough - when it becomes one member hounding another, following them from thread to thread or posting VM's about minor violations, or the users who delve into every little grammar or syntax error, then it becomes abusive in the former, borderline off-topic/spam in the latter, and hardly what we'd like members to have in their minds in regards to following the rules. If you see someone who isn't getting the hint, use the report button. And obviously, for the other more serious offences, use it as well.

It's also worth pointing out that when it comes to grammar warnings, I can say that 9 out of 10 I give are usually met with a positive "thanks for the heads up" response. It's all in how you present it to the member in question - if you're aggressive about their errors, be prepared for aggression in return, which ruins the party for everyone involved.
 
👍 Agreed. This is an example of what you're saying, I believe. It doesn't seem that the OP was bothered, and he had his question answered.
 
CAMjhr
Isn't that what you're doing right now to R16 and I? Pointing out our so-called "mistakes?"
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No, I'm just being helpful. Does this bother you for some reason? :dunce::dunce:
That's why I try to help people, if you bothered to read my post. Not an "inflated sense of self worth."
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If you say so. 👍
 
How are you helping me other than telling me what an annoyance I am, exactly? I just posted a link showing you that not everyone thinks that the help is annoying, but for some reason you chose not to look at that.
 
As has been pointed out before there are members that aren't polite in the way they tell someone they made a mistake and are very rude such as attacking a member for simple typo's, but people like CAMjhr are a different story. I don't see what's wrong with simply reminding someone of the rules (politely of course).

And if I see a thread asking what car you want most in GT5 I'd probably link to the thread that asks the exact same question that is currently on the first page. I don't see why this is such a big problem.
 
I'll just put my two cents here, and state that we try to help with the GT, or almost any other topic under the sun, but the grammar and spelling advice comes free as a bonus.

Compare multiple forums: You're looking for information, and you find a few different web sites with some help. Which one would be now intuitive if you were looking for solid answers? If it's important enough, you'd pay more attention to the one with coherent use of language and effective communication, especially if it was a specialized bit of information for which you had little or no prior knowledge of.

As for the faux mods, most are just trying to be helpful. If you feel anyone is out of hand (or just plain full of crud), notify us via the Report button. On the other hand, play the ball, not the man...there's subtle ways to explain it; twisting the arm until it snaps off, and beating them with your bloody stump is what we don't want to see: Report it.

General advice: Don't call the kettle names, until you know what color you are. Don't drag down the conversation, unless their head's on fire. Also, consider getting somewhat thicker skin for the really petty things.

If anyone is actually threatening another user with their state if membership, please let us know, and we will deal with it. We can't be everywhere at once, and we will deal with the serious stuff, but honestly ignore the minor trifles to a certain degree.
 
CAMjhr
How are you helping me other than telling me what an annoyance I am, exactly? I just posted a link showing you that not everyone thinks that the help is annoying, but for some reason you chose not to look at that.
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Just tired of all the petty crap in posts all over this site. Whether grammar, or spelling, or god forbid that some one not be aware of similar topics in some other part of the forum. Every time I go to a thread any more it seems you or R16kT or someone has to play mommy to everyone else. I do find it annoying and it clearly bothers enough people that there are threads on this, as well as the number of people that complained about it in other threads. It's childish. Like the little boy that tattles on everyone in school and wants to tell them how to do everything.
 
ChaosStar79
Like the little boy that tattles on everyone in school and wants to tell them how to do everything.
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Just like you're doing now? Telling us what we should or shouldn't be doing. Might want to heed your own words there mister.

I only get on people for not capitalizing words at the beginning of a sentence, and not using proper punctuation. (. , ? ! etc) And the occasional txt speak. I don't pay attention to correctly spelled words or grammar because I'm guilty of that myself every once in a while. People hit wrong keys, it happens.
 
R1600Turbo
Just like you're doing now? Telling us what we should or shouldn't be doing. Might want to heed your own words there mister.

I only get on people for not capitalizing words at the beginning of a sentence, and not using proper punctuation. (. , ? ! etc) And the occasional txt speak. I don't pay attention to correctly spelled words or grammar because I'm guilty of that myself every once in a while. People hit wrong keys, it happens.
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Yeah, I'm trying to make the omnipotent mini mods see just how bothersome they really are. :rolleyes: You're welcome for my help. 👍👍
 
Yeah, I think I will make my exit now as well.
 
R1600Turbo
Just like you're doing now? Telling us what we should or shouldn't be doing. Might want to heed your own words there mister.

I only get on people for not capitalizing words at the beginning of a sentence, and not using proper punctuation. (. , ? ! etc) And the occasional txt speak. I don't pay attention to correctly spelled words or grammar because I'm guilty of that myself every once in a while. People hit wrong keys, it happens.
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At least the discussion is being done in the right place. :rolleyes:

As I have mentioned before, there is no problem of sending the "offender" a PM. I don't see the point of posting in a thread just to get at someone for bad grammar or spelling mistakes or whatnot. Unless you have something constructive to add to the conversation, then please don't post at all. I've viewed several threads and these "faux-mods" rarely add to the conversation. It's either "Use the search button" or "Please re-read the AUP."

I'll have my say in why I think these "faux-mods" are annoying: Every time I come across a thread that is either a duplicate or the where OP violates the AUP, I always see someone telling them that what they just did was wrong. Why is this a bad thing? Because when I am looking for info, whether it be related to GT5 or not, the last thing I want is something irrelevant in the thread. I am annoyed, the same way as when I look for info for a research project via Google, I am presented with websites that aren't related to what I'm looking for at all.

The fact that this thread exists, and the fact that there are so many replies obviously means that myself and OP aren't the only ones who are annoyed by these "faux-mods."

I really hope I didn't offend anyone with this, but I really wanted to get this off my chest.
 
We understand. You were polite about it, which is the key to civilized conversation. You got your point across in a friendly matter, which makes a person like myself much more inclined to read it. In response, I would like to say that I have noticed I used to only post thread links (which normally is sufficient, honestly), or AUP references, but after hearing your take on the subject, I will now try my best to answer any questions a person may have as well as point them in the correct direction regarding posting techniques//following the AUP. Fair?
 
CAMjhr
We understand. You were polite about it, which is the key to civilized conversation. You got your point across in a friendly matter, which makes a person like myself much more inclined to read it. In response, I would like to say that I have noticed I used to only post thread links (which normally is sufficient, honestly), or AUP references, but after hearing your take on the subject, I will now try my best to answer any questions a person may have as well as point them in the correct direction regarding posting techniques//following the AUP. Fair?
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Sounds good to me.
 
👍 Have a nice day, my friend.
 
1241Penguin
The fact that this thread exists, and the fact that there are so many replies obviously means that myself and OP aren't the only ones who are annoyed by these "faux-mods."
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What, like a handful of you out of thousands?

Points taken. Doesn't mean I'm going to change what I'm doing, as nobody of a higher power has specifically told me not to directly.
 
I generally only have an issue with nitpicking, like in the example I posted earlier, and when there is a post that does nothing to contribute to the topic at hand. Merely posting "Read the AUP" or "Use the search bar" doesn't do anything to help. Since you took the time to respond to begin with you should at least take the time to answer the question or politely point them to it.

Now, Jordan or Niky, or whichever mod looks at this next would you mind closing this thread as I feel that a few members that have been posting are getting a little heated, and I'd hate to give a reason for the arguement to continue.
 
just checking in here as I've recently behaved like a would be mod by starting a new thread to bring to the attention of the actual mods what looks like another spammer.

Wanted to say after reading the title of this thread, I think it's totally great to have members who understand the spirit if not precisely the letter of the AUP doing a little amateur moderating in the threads they frequent to keep things cool here.

Having said that, there's also the phenomenon of people just trying to be bossy and totally missing the point, which should elicit a groan and not a response, in general (trying not to be that guy...)
 
This is nothing. We've had threads questioning mod action that have been as heated as hell.

I'm glad you can all discuss it without coming to blows, and I'm glad to see people can step back at the end.

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We mods are only human. We eat, sleep and go to work. Sometimes we mod from work, but we don't have a whole lot of time.

Personally... I don't appreciate walking into a reported thread and seeing a flame-fest.

But I do appreciate walking into a reported thread where someone has already pointed out a previous topic. Preferably politely. As this saves me the five minutes of time it would take me to do multiple searches to find that same thread that I remember being started several months ago... and allows me to go on to the next reported thread or post... and there are scads.

But for other violations: Fighting, expletives, grammar... it's preferable to do things invisibly... because you are merely setting yourselves up for heat from the reported member.

While the sometimes colorful PMs that get sent afterwards can help speed up the moderation process (drop a dozen F-bombs in a PM and you can expect a nice vacation), we'd rather things not get to that point.

And remember, spam gets deleted. So don't respond to it in a post, as that just adds to the number of posts we have to delete in-line. ;)
 
As a non-native english speaking person I must point out that grammar, spelling and punctuation are vital to a clear understanding of what is going on.

I do frequent some forums that are written on my native language and I tend to get mad at people for using textspeak and being incapable of applying correct punctuation to a simple sentence, however harshly pointing errors out or even ridicularizing the offender just make things even worse ( and leads to these sort of threads ).

There must be a mid-term, things can't be win or wall all the time. If a member creates a thread using abusive grammar errors, point out to him politely ( as CAMjhr did ), if he keeps making mistakes on all threads he post on, report him once and let the staff deal with the situation.

Having decent grammar is vital to the survival of the boards, as much as a friendly environment is. We are not getting much of the former due to the flood of newer members ( many non-native speakers ) and not much of the latter, due to some picky members.

In Omnisian logic, we need less GI Joe and more UN around here folks. Let's just help each other.
 
Alright dude, I just hate to be the one to perpetuate any ill will.

I myself am slightly curious as to why the members in this forum who learned English as a second language seem to be more proficient than the majority of English natives
 
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