Fuel consimption in gt4??

cobragt · Aug 10, 2003

Interesting, I guess that feature will only work during enduro races

Famine · Aug 10, 2003

Yeah - we picked that out a while ago. I think it's fairly apparent that this is a fuel light. Question is, what's the one opposite? You've got oil, quite clearly, in between...

I'm hoping they're going to start including kerb/dry weight as a factor. The car you buy is at dry weight - which then increases as you put in the fluids (10 gallons of petrol is NOT light), and which can decrease as you race - even short laps. You can run your car close to dry for real quick laps - and so on...

VenomFX220 · Aug 10, 2003

The one opposite looks like it could be a battery light. :odd:

Doohan · Aug 10, 2003

I just hope they'll disable the enginewear.. It's stupid! Like the Oreca, when it's worn, it's worn and you can't get a new without starting a new game or using X-port :banghead:

wana b drifter · Aug 10, 2003

it says its a 2 lap race though? :odd:

Famine · Aug 10, 2003

In GT3, your oil indicator is always there - blacked out - even during 2 lap races...

T5-R · Aug 10, 2003

Fuel would be interesting, more maintainence for cars gets 👍 from me.

Also I think only a few championships in the game should have winnable cars, the rest simply making them avaliable for purchase in the manufacturers showrooms.

That way you truely have to earn a car & don't feel the need to keep 20 race-bred Skylines just coz you can't win em again.

duo17 · Aug 10, 2003

It looks something like a battery or "check engine" light.

OA

cobragt · Aug 11, 2003

That could be the E brake.

69Dodge_Charger · Aug 11, 2003

I'm sure they just put those there to make the game look more realistic that all, probably not operational.

Klostrophobic · Aug 11, 2003

What course is that?! It looks farking weird by the HUD.

DelBoy · Aug 11, 2003

New York

Doohan · Aug 11, 2003

Originally posted by T5-R
Fuel would be interesting, more maintainence for cars gets 👍 from me.

I'm fine with that.. As long it's possible go fix the car to get max hp when it gets worn out..

Mopar Muscle · Aug 11, 2003

Originally posted by cobragt
That could be the E brake.

most likely. how can this look like a battery. i mean battery!? omg :banghead:

Klostrophobic · Aug 12, 2003

Originally posted by 69Dodge_Charger
I'm sure they just put those there to make the game look more realistic that all, probably not operational.

Why would they do that?

vat_man · Aug 12, 2003

Originally posted by Klostrophobic
Why would they do that?

Indeed - all of the lights in the instrumentation on GT3 work, and will come on when appropriate.

1X83Z · Aug 12, 2003

Originally posted by vat_man
Indeed - all of the lights in the instrumentation on GT3 work, and will come on when appropriate.

If the game is going to have fuel consumption and a check battery light, why not just go ahead and give us damage? I'm all for realisation - turn signals and all (though not in GT) - yet I see no reason why they should give us details as minute as fuel consumption and not give us damage.

Klostrophobic · Aug 12, 2003

Because a damage model is probably a lot more difficult to implement than fuel consumption. And it may be possible that car manufacturers don't want to see their cars being smashed to smithereens (that words owns, by the way).

Then again, maybe I'm talking out of my ass. The world may never know.

1X83Z · Aug 12, 2003

Originally posted by Klostrophobic
Because a damage model is probably a lot more difficult to implement than fuel consumption. And it may be possible that car manufacturers don't want to see their cars being smashed to smithereens (that words owns, by the way).

Who cares what the manufacturers want? Does Honda actually think I'm not going to go buy a Civic because I just smashed it into a wall at Midfield? Or, even, does Honda think I am going to buy a Civic because it runs well in a video game? Absurd

Then again, maybe I'm talking out of my ass. The world may never know.

Trust me - the world knows when you're talking out of your ass.

the_cobbinator · Aug 12, 2003

Originally posted by M5Power

Who cares what the manufacturers want? Does Honda actually think I'm not going to go buy a Civic because I just smashed it into a wall at Midfield?

Trust me - the world knows when you're talking out of your ass. [/B]

To your first part, I completely disagree. The manufacturers don't want to have to smash up their cars just so PD can scan them in.

To your second part I completely agree :lol:

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vat_man · Aug 12, 2003

Originally posted by M5Power
Who cares what the manufacturers want? Does Honda actually think I'm not going to go buy a Civic because I just smashed it into a wall at Midfield? Or, even, does Honda think I am going to buy a Civic because it runs well in a video game? Absurd

Unfortunately, when it's the manufacturer giving the yay or nay on whether their cars appear in the game, and damage is an issue for them, everyone cares.

I can deal with no visual damage, but heavy crashes should result in appropriate consequences. If you plant it into the outside fence at Deep Forest's last turn at 240kmh, that should be a DNF right there, not a 'bounce and continue'.

Latka · Aug 14, 2003

"And it may be possible that car manufacturers don't want to see their cars being smashed to smithereens (that words owns, by the way). "

"Unfortunately, when it's the manufacturer giving the yay or nay on whether their cars appear in the game, and damage is an issue for them, everyone cares."

...then why can you smash up your Porsche and Ferrari in the Need for Speed series with no problem? I think we're dealing with the producers feeling that if they are going to put damage in, they want it to be as accurate as everything else they've done (600mph Escudos aside...). That would probably take a whole bucketload of processing power to accomplish.

69Dodge_Charger · Aug 14, 2003

If you just must go and crash a car on a video game then go play Burnout.

Klostrophobic · Aug 14, 2003

Originally posted by Latka
...then why can you smash up your Porsche and Ferrari in the Need for Speed series with no problem? I think we're dealing with the producers feeling that if they are going to put damage in, they want it to be as accurate as everything else they've done (600mph Escudos aside...). That would probably take a whole bucketload of processing power to accomplish.

Because the GT series is a hell of a lot more realistic than the NFS series.

vat_man · Aug 14, 2003

Originally posted by Latka
...then why can you smash up your Porsche and Ferrari in the Need for Speed series with no problem? I think we're dealing with the producers feeling that if they are going to put damage in, they want it to be as accurate as everything else they've done (600mph Escudos aside...). That would probably take a whole bucketload of processing power to accomplish.

Well, I think the issue there is that there's such a diverse range of manufacturers in there that it's practically impossible to get them all to agree to including damage in the game - and if one manufacturer won't agree with it, there's virtually no chance the others will agree to it either.

The processing power issue is probably a legitimate concern, too - but bear in mind, if you include realistic damage, you would actually have to model how smashed up a car actually gets at 120kmh, and that is not pretty - not a simple scrape ala Need For Speed. People generally die in road car crashes at speeds above 80kmh - heck, in Australia a guy died at the weekend in a 120-140kmh crash in a race-prepared R32 Golf at Phillip Island racetrack - that's the sort of forces you're talking about here.

Go to www.wreckedexotics.com and see the sort of stuff we're talking about.

duo17 · Aug 15, 2003

I remember reading an article about why PD wouldn't include car damage and they said something like they wouldn't include damage because they wouldn't be able to make it realistic. They said that most crashes would result in the car being in pieces about 2 inches big.

OA

vat_man · Aug 15, 2003

Indeed - when I think of some of the monumentals I've had at the fast left onto the pit straight at Deep Forest, I shudder to think what that would do to a car...

Latka · Aug 15, 2003

"Because the GT series is a hell of a lot more realistic than the NFS series."

You obviously didn't read my post... I was merely stating that other racing series have damage in response to someone saying that it was a licensing issue or somethin'. They could probably do it, but I bet they don't right now because they can't give it the detail they want.

GilesGuthrie · Aug 15, 2003

Originally posted by vat_man
Indeed - when I think of some of the monumentals I've had at the fast left onto the pit straight at Deep Forest, I shudder to think what that would do to a car...

I don't think you'd be walking away from them...

DelBoy · Aug 16, 2003

the best smashes were on an old indy game i had on pc, if you hit the wall at 200mph all youd be left with would be the engine block. And even then it was smashed to hell. Shame that game sucked.

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