Drift Techniques

Hi guys i dont no if all these techniques will work but i put this list toghether while surfing the web. give them a try and give some feed back.

Drift Techniques

Heel toe shifting.

Heel toe shifting is a race shifting technique that allows drivers to downshift quickly while applying the brakes. Proper heal toe shifting keeps the engine, transmission, and wheel speed matched up so there is no jolt through the driveline while downshifting. When drifting, heel toe downshifting allows drivers to downshift in order to increase engine rpm, while braking to transfer weight forward and off the rear wheels.

1. Before entering a turn, do your initial braking to transfer your vehicle’s weight forward. Double clutch / heel toe downshift (see next step). Turn your wheels into the corner. Carry enough momentum into the corner to induce oversteer.

2. Clutch in, bring your vehicle into neutral, and release clutch. While on the brakes, slide your right heel over to the gas pedal and rev up (blip) the engine to match transmission and engine speed. Without matching revs on downshift, the engine speed will cause a jolt through the driveline, upsetting rear traction uncontrollably.

3. After matching revs, clutch in, and downshift your vehicle. Double clutching is optional, but reduces wear on your transmission. Use e-brake if momentum and downshift do not create enough oversteer.


4. Release the clutch, get off the brakes, and press the accelerator. Accelerate enough to keep tires spinning to continue oversteer. Add steering input (countersteering) to keep your vehicle from pivoting or spinning out.


power over drift


1. Enter a turn at any speed. The powerover drift is based on horsepower so it does not necessarily need much speed or rotational force to perform.

2. Turn your wheels sharply into the turn, and get on the throttle enough to cause your wheels to lose traction. The cornering force of the vehicle combined with the excessive throttle will cause your vehicle to oversteer.

3. When you feel the vehicle’s rear end kicking out, immediately countersteer the wheels to face straight with the road. Your vehicle will pull in the direction of the front wheels, as long as the wheels are still moving. Keep on the throttle. If you press the brakes or let off the throttle because your vehicle is in an extremely oversteered condition, you will spin out or leave the road.

4. When you wish to straighten out your car, after completing the drift, let off the throttle smoothly and straighten out the wheels as your vehicle kicks in line behind the front tires.

E-Brake Drift

1. Enter a turn at a speed too high for the vehicle to handle (if you do not drift, your vehicle should experience understeer at this speed).

2. Heel-Toe Downshift to get your vehicle into a gear low enough to pull you through a drift (2nd gear).

3. Turn your wheels sharply into the turn. By the time you finish downshifting and turning your wheels, you should be at the apex of the turn.

4. Hold in the release button on your E-Brake and pull up your brake sharply, then quickly release (e-brake is held up for only about 1 second). If using a RWD car, clutch in while pulling your E-Brake. If using a FWD car, keep on the throttle while pulling your E-Brake.

5. When you feel the vehicle’s rear end kicking out, immediately countersteer the wheels to face straight with the road. Your vehicle will pull in the direction of the front wheels, as long as the wheels are still moving. Keep on the throttle. If you press the brakes or let off the throttle because your vehicle is in an extremely oversteered condition, you will spin out or leave the road.

6. When you wish to straighten out your car, after completing the drift, let off the throttle smoothly and straighten out the wheels as your vehicle kicks in line behind the front tires.

Clutch Kick Drift

1. Enter a turn at a speed too high for the vehicle to handle (if you do not drift, your vehicle should experience understeer at this speed).

2. Turn your wheels into the turn and stay on the throttle.

3. At this speed, your vehicle should start to experience understeer. When this happens or right before this happens, clutch in, but stay on the throttle.

4. By clutching in and staying on the throttle, your engine will now rev up to high rpms. As soon as this happens, dump the clutch, causing your rear wheels to break traction.

5. When you feel the vehicle’s rear end kicking out, immediately countersteer the wheels to face straight with the road. Your vehicle will pull in the direction of the front wheels, as long as the wheels are still moving. Keep on the throttle. If you press the brakes or let off the throttle because your vehicle is in an extremely oversteered condition, you will spin out or leave the road.

6. When you wish to straighten out your car, after completing the drift, let off the throttle smoothly and straighten out the wheels as your vehicle kicks in line behind the front tires.


Shift Lock Drift


1. Enter a turn at a speed too high for the vehicle to handle (if you do not drift, your vehicle should experience understeer at this speed).

2. Turn your wheels into the turn and quickly downshift into a lower gear (2nd gear).

3. By quickly downshifting (but not Heel-Toe Downshifting) you will put stress on the driveline, causing the vehicle to slow down and your engine rpms to increase.

4. After downshifting, quickly get on the throttle causing your wheels to break traction, sending your vehicle into a drift.

5. When you feel the vehicle’s rear end kicking out, immediately countersteer the wheels to face straight with the road. Your vehicle will pull in the direction of the front wheels, as long as the wheels are still moving. Keep on the throttle. If you press the brakes or let off the throttle because your vehicle is in an extremely oversteered condition, you will spin out or leave the road.

6. When you wish to straighten out your car, after completing the drift, let off the throttle smoothly and straighten out the wheels as your vehicle kicks in line behind the front tires.

Dirt Drop Drift

1. Enter a turn at low to medium speed.

2. Turn your wheels into the turn and stay on the throttle, but drive slightly off the roadway with the side of your vehicle opposite of the turn you wish to make. (ex. if you are turning left, let your right side wheels drop into the dirt)

3. When your rear wheel goes off the roadway, the low traction surface should cause your wheels to break traction. Stay on the throttle as your vehicle returns to the roadway to continue the drift.

4. When you feel the vehicle’s rear end kicking out, immediately countersteer the wheels to face straight with the road. Your vehicle will pull in the direction of the front wheels, as long as the wheels are still moving. Keep on the throttle. If you press the brakes or let off the throttle because your vehicle is in an extremely oversteered condition, you will spin out or leave the road.

5. When you wish to straighten out your car, after completing the drift, let off the throttle smoothly and straighten out the wheels as your vehicle kicks in line behind the front tires.

Feint Drift

1. On approach to a turn, steer your vehicle away from the direction of the turn you wish to be made. The distance you begin to turn your vehicle away from the turn depends on how fast you are traveling. When you turn your vehicle away from the direction of the turn you want to make, you are loading up your suspension on one side of your vehicle, compressing the springs so that when you turn in the opposite direction, your vehicle will "bounce" back to its desired direction.

2. Once your suspension is compressed on the side of your vehicle opposite of the turn you wish to make, quickly turn back in the opposite direction. This feint motion should be done smoothly, but not necessarily quickly. Turning your wheels too quickly in opposite directions will cause your vehicle to understeer.

3. After rebounding your vehicle back into its desired direction, get on the throttle. When combined with the rotational force of the rebound, the excessive throttle will send your vehicle into a drift. FWD vehicles can use the E-Brake instead of the throttle to induce oversteer.

4. When you feel the vehicle’s rear end kicking out, immediately countersteer the wheels to face straight with the road. Your vehicle will pull in the direction of the front wheels, as long as the wheels are still moving. Keep on the throttle. If you press the brakes or let off the throttle because your vehicle is in an extremely oversteered condition, you will spin out or leave the road.

5. When you wish to straighten out your car, after completing the drift, let off the throttle smoothly and straighten out the wheels as your vehicle kicks in line behind the front tires.

Jump Drift

1. Enter a turn at medium speed.

2. Turn your wheels into the turn and stay on the throttle, but drive the inside wheels of your vehicle over a low curb.

3. When your rear wheel bounces over the curb, stay on the throttle. When your wheels return to the road, they should be spinning faster than what available traction can handle, causing your wheels to break traction. Stay on the throttle as your vehicle begins to drift.

4. When you feel the vehicle’s rear end kicking out, immediately countersteer the wheels to face straight with the road. Your vehicle will pull in the direction of the front wheels, as long as the wheels are still moving. Keep on the throttle. If you press the brakes or let off the throttle because your vehicle is in an extremely oversteered condition, you will spin out or leave the road.

5. When you wish to straighten out your car, after completing the drift, let off the throttle smoothly and straighten out the wheels as your vehicle kicks in line behind the front tires.

Braking Drift

1. Enter a turn at a speed too high for the vehicle to handle (if you do not drift, your vehicle should experience understeer at this speed).

2. Heel-Toe Downshift to get your vehicle into a gear low enough to cause the rear tires to break traction when you accelerate (2nd gear).

3. Turn your wheels sharply into the turn. By the time you finish downshifting and turning your wheels, you should be at the apex of the turn.

4. Accelerate hard, but balance the throttle to maintain the drift.

5. When you feel the vehicle’s rear end kicking out, immediately countersteer the wheels to face straight with the road. Your vehicle will pull in the direction of the front wheels, as long as the wheels are still moving. Keep on the throttle. If you press the brakes or let off the throttle because your vehicle is in an extremely oversteered condition, you will spin out or leave the road.

6. When you wish to straighten out your car, after completing the drift, let off the throttle smoothly and straighten out the wheels as your vehicle kicks in line behind the front tires.

Kansei Drift

1. Enter a turn at high speed. The Kansei Drift should be performed at race speeds. (if you do not drift, your vehicle should experience severe understeer at this speed).

2. Turn your wheels sharply into the turn, and let off the throttle quickly. The cornering force of the vehicle combined with the loss of throttle will cause your vehicle to oversteer.

3. When your vehicle begins to lose traction, get on the throttle again quickly. This will overpower the wheels for the traction that is available, sending your vehicle into a drift.

4. When you feel the vehicle’s rear end kicking out, immediately countersteer the wheels to face straight with the road. Your vehicle will pull in the direction of the front wheels, as long as the wheels are still moving. Keep on the throttle. If you press the brakes or let off the throttle because your vehicle is in an extremely oversteered condition, you will spin out or leave the road.

5. When you wish to straighten out your car, after completing the drift, let off the throttle smoothly and straighten out the wheels as your vehicle kicks in line behind the front tires.

Long Slide Drift

1. Enter a turn at high speed to perform this drift.

2. Turn your wheels into from the turn.

3. Hold in the release button on your E-Brake and pull up your brake sharply, then quickly release (e-brake is held up for only about 1 second). If using a RWD car, clutch in while pulling your E-Brake.

4. When you feel the vehicle’s rear end kicking out, immediately countersteer the wheels to face straight with the road. Your vehicle will pull in the direction of the front wheels, as long as the wheels are still moving. Keep on the throttle.

5. If your vehicle begins to lose speed while sliding sideways, heel-toe downshift into a gear low enough to pull your vehicle through the drift.

6. When you wish to straighten out your car, after completing the drift, let off the throttle smoothly and straighten out the wheels as your vehicle kicks in line behind the front tires.

Swaying Drift (Choku-Dori / Manji



1. Enter a turn at medium to high speed to perform this drift.

2. Turn your wheels away from the turn.

3. Hold in the release button on your E-Brake and pull up your brake sharply, then quickly release (e-brake is held up for only about 1 second). If using a RWD car, clutch in while pulling your E-Brake.

4. When you feel the vehicle’s rear end kicking out, immediately countersteer the wheels to face straight with the road. Your vehicle will pull in the direction of the front wheels, as long as the wheels are still moving. Keep on the throttle.

5. Your vehicle will now be sliding sideways in an angle away from the turn you wish to make.

6. When you want to turn your vehicle back into the direction of the turn you wish to make, let off the throttle quickly and completely. By letting off the throttle quickly, your vehicle will snap back in the opposite direction. Once your vehicle is at its desired angle, get on the throttle again to maintain the drift.

7. Let go of the steering wheel so that your vehicle's wheels line up with the road again. Countersteer if necessary.

8. If your vehicle begins to lose speed while sliding sideways, heel-toe downshift into a gear low enough to pull your vehicle through the drift.

9. When you wish to straighten out your car, after completing the drift, let off the throttle smoothly and straighten out the wheels as your vehicle kicks in line behind the front tires.

well that covers almost all real drift techniques.note not all of these settings will work in the game but try and use some of the methods and see what u can do this info hopefully it will be helpfull to some people. ps feed back would be nice.
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Very nice list!

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Well done, that helped alot

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well that covers almost all real drift techniques.note not all of these settings will work in the game but try and use some of the methods and see what u can do this info hopefully it will be helpfull to some people. ps feed back would be nice.
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glad you added that little disclaimer at the bottom, i was about to point it out. Still, you probably could have completely omitted the heel & toe section, and clutch kick because they hold no bearing whatsoever in the game. The rest are pretty detailed and can easily have the steps adapted to in game routines.

so other than that, good list, I also hope it helpful to others.

TankSpanker

glad you added that little disclaimer at the bottom, i was about to point it out. Still, you probably could have completely omitted the heel & toe section, and clutch kick because they hold no bearing whatsoever in the game. The rest are pretty detailed and can easily have the steps adapted to in game routines.

so other than that, good list, I also hope it helpful to others.

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Thanks for the positive feed back i was in two minds wheter or not put the heel and toe section in at all but i thought id leave it in there just for educational purposes incase anyone wants go take there own car out for a drift session. you no what to do now. 👍 👍 👍

Yeah, basic drift techniques! Great hunt 👍
I used the same site to learn drifting before enter GTPlanet. Real life in GT

You also may take a look at
http://www.drifting.com/
and take advices from real drifters at message boards.

Also:

http://www.auto-ware.com/combustionbody_index.htm - a lot of info about suspension setup

and especially that one, basic Friction Circle theory, very informative:

http://www.auto-ware.com/setup/fc1.htm

TankSpanker

you probably could have completely omitted the heel & toe section,

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Actually you can simulate Toe Heel By pushing both the Brake and Throttle button with your thumb(as long as you are using the buttons and not the Analog for throttle/brake). I perfected that in GT3, it takes alot of thumb control. 👍

HammerShot

Actually you can simulate Toe Heel By pushing both the Brake and Throttle button with your thumb(as long as you are using the buttons and not the Analog for throttle/brake). I perfected that in GT3, it takes alot of thumb control. 👍

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...well, i would just call that two foot braking (or thumb and knuckle braking as someone else called it ) since we have no clutch in GT4. That does have its benefits, but doesnt replicate what is being described due to this:

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2. Clutch in, bring your vehicle into neutral, and release clutch. While on the brakes, slide your right heel over to the gas pedal and rev up (blip) the engine to match transmission and engine speed. Without matching revs on downshift, the engine speed will cause a jolt through the driveline, upsetting rear traction uncontrollably.

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that is, braking and holding the gas doesnt matter. The game necessarily matches the engine revs to your current speed and gear ratio for you because you have no ability to hold the clutch open on your own. The only time I've been able to rev the engine at a rate which is not predicted by the gearing is when stationary and holding the brake or ebrake. Holding the gas while braking just slows your deceleration and decreases the delay between the time you stop braking and begin accelerating again (the last bit is a human limit, nothing to do with the game physics).

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so...i guess you could be right since the engine revs are being matched to the gears, but the fact remains that you have no control over it - this is imposed by the game physics and not a result of anything you have done. You arent doing anything different in your method than in a regular braking induced drift as it is described above.

(lol, i kinda flip-flopped while writing this one)

You kinda get a clutch kick feel when you use the hand brake and throttle and when you let go of the brake, you kinda get the feeling but its not very strong

When you shift up or down, you see the that gear number goes idle(dims) and thats pretty much when the clutch is pushed in so its kinda has the effect...

I dunnno I may be wrong.

That shift lock explanation is all wrong. There's NO shift lock involved anywhere in the description. Shift lock is when you turn into the corner let off the gas, push the clutch in all the way, and pop it back out really quick, then gas and counter steer. When you quickly release the clutch it chirps the tires, and stops both rear wheels from moving for a split second, so if you're experiencing lateral forces, the car will intiate a slide, the throttle control and counter steer will then carry you to the exit. The closest thing to this that GT4 has is either a light tap of the ebrake while experiencing understeer, or just using the accel-off drift technique. When you let off the throttle really quickly it simulates shift lock, but does not actually LOCK the wheels, merely reduces their speed drastically, which will initiate a drift with enough lateral Gs.

burnout060

That shift lock explanation is all wrong. There's NO shift lock involved anywhere in the description. Shift lock is when you turn into the corner let off the gas, push the clutch in all the way, and pop it back out really quick, then gas and counter steer. When you quickly release the clutch it chirps the tires, and stops both rear wheels from moving for a split second, so if you're experiencing lateral forces, the car will intiate a slide, the throttle control and counter steer will then carry you to the exit. The closest thing to this that GT4 has is either a light tap of the ebrake while experiencing understeer, or just using the accel-off drift technique. When you let off the throttle really quickly it simulates shift lock, but does not actually LOCK the wheels, merely reduces their speed drastically, which will initiate a drift with enough lateral Gs.

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actually, what you just described is called the clutch kick technique. according to tsuchiya, the shift lock is when you basically shift for example from 3 to 2 when entering a corner with out heel-toe rev matching. it's the difference in drivetrain and engine RPM's that makes the tires lose traction.

actually, what you just described is called the clutch kick technique. according to tsuchiya, the shift lock is when you basically shift for example from 3 to 2 when entering a corner with out heel-toe rev matching. it's the difference in drivetrain and engine RPM's that makes the tires lose traction.

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3. By quickly downshifting (but not Heel-Toe Downshifting) you will put stress on the driveline, causing the vehicle to slow down and your engine rpms to increase.
4. After downshifting, quickly get on the throttle causing your wheels to break traction, sending your vehicle into a drift.

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very useful in GT low speed drifting

maggkrabar

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very useful in GT low speed drifting

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i also find that method very good at low speed hairpin drifts

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i also find that method very good at low speed hairpin drifts

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and helps to induce controled oversteer with any braking manoeuvre(hi or low speed) without using shake or e-brake

maggkrabar

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and helps to induce controled oversteer with any braking manoeuvre(hi or low speed) without using shake or e-brake

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that shake would be called feinting

Drifter5

that shake would be called feinting

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right...

maggkrabar

right...

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maggkrabar

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very useful in GT low speed drifting

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Shift lock doesn't apply in GT4, because it automatically heel-toe downshifts every time.

It's not that great of a technique anyways.

I would heel-toe every time I shifted in Live for Speed. Even while drifting.

Ryen49

Yeah, The RPM's rise and make the tires slip due to the extra force from the downshift making the car unstable and in turn you start to drift.

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Black works.

The drive tires have horizontal (as opposed to lateral) strain put on them when trying to bring up the engine speed after downshifting without heel-toe shifting.

This upsets the front/rear grip balance in a manner similar to accelerating hard in a powerful car, or braking with only the rear wheels.

If you are putting lateral strain on the tires, the combined forces acting on the rear tires could be enough to cause them to break traction and initiate oversteer.

Explaining this is kind of pointless, but might give a more detailed understanding of why this doesn't work in GT.

At any rate; I found this technique to be inconsistent, relying heavily on engine speed, which can be a hassle to control, especially when trying to control the speeds of the car on several axis, as well as trying to keep the RPM within a useable range.

That's another thing.

After releasing the clutch, your engine speed is below what is required to generate torque at the wheels (hence the positive horizontal strain), so after your tires bring the engine up to speed, your engine is only running as fast as it needs to to maintain torque balance between tires and transmission, which isn't always as fast as you want it to be running.

So all-in-all, it's not a huge loss as far as drifters should be concerned.

It's certainly not a huge loss as far as race drivers are concerned.


/me quits while he's ahead.

Sloth

At any rate; I found this technique to be inconsistent, relying heavily on engine speed, which can be a hassle to control, especially when trying to control the speeds of the car on several axis, as well as trying to keep the RPM within a useable range.

That's another thing.

After releasing the clutch, your engine speed is below what is required to generate torque at the wheels (hence the positive horizontal strain), so after your tires bring the engine up to speed, your engine is only running as fast as it needs to to maintain torque balance between tires and transmission, which isn't always as fast as you want it to be running.

/me quits while he's ahead.[/B]

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hang on a sec there sloth - i'm gonna put you back on the grill for a second

either i have lost track of where this thread is headed and misread your post, or theres some small inaccuracy here.

By the law of gearing (and just by observation and common intuition - but I prefer technical terms ), downshifting will necessarily increase engine speed. So, I'm not sure what you're referring too when you say your engine speed is reduced after releasing the clutch. Are you just referring to the losses incurred by suddenly requiring that the engine be responsible for rotating the rest of the drivetrain as well as its own reciprocating components?

To me, the situation in the way you have described it, sounds more like an upshift in mid-drift as opposed to a downshift. the whole point of downshifting is to put the engine in a more apropriate range of power and torque distribution. Generally speaking, if you downshift and get your RPM's anywhere near 5200+ RPM you will be near maximum torque and power will increase further as you accelerate to higher and higher RPM (as long as we arent talking about some behemoth engine from the 60's). This is proven by some equation relating torque to horsepower at a given RPM - but i forget it's name and exact derivation.

would you care to clarify your comments, or present them in some greater detail. I don't know if I'm misreading things, or what. Either way, fill me in.

I agree with the rest of your post to that point. Good stuff - i enjoy the odd technical post thrown in here and there. Shows some thought and consideration.
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Sloth

Shift lock doesn't apply in GT4, because it automatically heel-toe downshifts every time.

It's not that great of a technique anyways.

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There is Shift Lock in GT. Sorry You're wrong. Read carefully what exactly is Shift Lock Drift or watch Drift Bible. In GT heel-toe down shifting is automatic only if You're braking and downshifting simultaneously but not when You're downshifting after/without brake. But You can perform Shift Lock only if You're using manual shifting. I use manual shifting everytime.

3. By quickly downshifting (but not Heel-Toe Downshifting) you will put stress on the driveline, causing the vehicle to slow down and your engine rpms to increase.

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You can induce initial Braking Drift followed with Shift Lock.
Just do downshift after brake, then step on gas. That is combined Braking+Shift Lock Drift and You can do it in GT.

In GT You cannot do only clutch kick.

maggkrabar

There is Shift Lock in GT. Sorry You're wrong. Read carefully what exactly is Shift Lock Drift or watch Drift Bible. In GT heel-toe down shifting is automatic only if You're braking and downshifting simultaneously but not when You're downshifting after/without brake. But You can perform Shift Lock only if You're using manual shifting. I use manual shifting everytime.



You can induce initial Braking Drift followed with Shift Lock.
Just do downshift after brake, then step on gas. That is combined Braking+Shift Lock Drift and You can do it in GT.

In GT You cannot do only clutch kick.

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Sorry but, my buddy sloth is right.. due to the fact that you can't control the clutch in gt4 shift-lock is not possible...
The fact that GT automatiacly heel-toe's for you stops you from doing shift lock.

Sloth

Yeah, and Tank: I wasn't saying that the engine speed is reduced when you release the clutch, but it is when you press the clutch.

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fair enough
thats the clarification i was looking for

Oh, and when I said this:

Sloth

The drive tires have horizontal (as opposed to lateral) strain put on them when trying to bring up the engine speed after downshifting without heel-toe shifting.

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I meant "longitudal," not horizontal.

Like in the same sense as latitude.. lateral.

I've seen the term used before and had it on the tip of my brain.

Fricken..

Guys... I'm GT noob, but...
Try this three sequences while braking from Hi speed. From 6th gear, release gas and:
6--Brake--downshift5--downshift4--downshift3-------------------------------I
You will get any braking distance

But do later downshift:
6--Brake-------------------downshift5--downshift4--downshift3------I
You will got a shorter brake distance(better car ballance).
then try this:

6--Brake----------------downshift5--downshift4--(release brake-downshift3+turn wheel)--step on gas.

You will perform Gran Turismo Shift Lock- not 100% as real(no clutch), but it is still very close to quick Shift Lock using engine power. You must release brake then turn wheel. Just try it and read about Friction Circle before saying it's imposible. I do it on every GT endurance race and I use fast drifting to intake sport cars with better cornering speed.

maggkrabar

Guys... I'm GT noob, but...
Try this three sequences while braking from Hi speed. From 6th gear, release gas and:
6--Brake--downshift5--downshift4--downshift3-------------------------------I
You will get any braking distance

But do later downshift:
6--Brake-------------------downshift5--downshift4--downshift3------I
You will got a shorter brake distance(better car ballance).
then try this:

6--Brake----------------downshift5--downshift4--(release brake-downshift3+turn wheel)--step on gas.

You will perform Gran Turismo Shift Lock- not 100% as real(no clutch), but it is still very close to quick Shift Lock using engine power. You must release brake then turn wheel. Just try it and read about Friction Circle before saying it's imposible. I do it on every GT endurance race and I use fast drifting to intake sport cars with better cornering speed.

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Trust us shift-lock is not possible. You don't heel toe in shift lock.. GT heel toe downshifts for you there for you arent shift locking. Please we know what we are talking about.

"intake sport cars" ...

Trust us, if there was shift lock, there would be a hell of alot of info about it here.

Ryen49

You don't heel toe in shift lock.. GT heel toe downshifts for you there for you arent shift locking. Please we know what we are talking about.

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Nop!
Sorry...
You don't know what're You talking about.

Shift Lock? And Heel-Toe? Not on same place!!!

Whatta heel-toe You talking about? Heel-toe without touching BRAKE pedal? You mean that GT software engine performs heel-toe(heel on gas and toe on brake) without BRAKING?

be serious... GT is not Microsoft software.

Heel-toe is only BRAKING manoeuvre, and it is impossible to perform it without touching brake pedal. You mean DOUBLE CLUTCH. GT software performs double clutch.

You - downshift, GT - clutch, N, release clutch, revs up, clutch, downshift, release clutch - double clutch technique. No BRAKE, No Heel-toe. If Your car is powerfull enough and engine is tuned, You will perform Shift Lock even GT helps You with double clutch. Looks Like Power Off, but is Shift Lock.

Remember, No Brake, No Heel-Toe. 👍

maggkrabar

Nop!
Sorry...
You don't know what're You talking about.

Shift Lock? And Heel-Toe? Not on same place!!!

Whatta heel-toe You talking about? Heel-toe without touching BRAKE pedal? You mean that GT software engine performs heel-toe(heel on gas and toe on brake) without BRAKING?

be serious... GT is not Microsoft software.

Heel-toe is only BRAKING manoeuvre, and it is impossible to perform it without touching brake pedal. You mean DOUBLE CLUTCH. GT software performs double clutch.

You - downshift, GT - clutch, N, release clutch, revs up, clutch, downshift, release clutch - double clutch technique. No BRAKE, No Heel-toe. If Your car is powerfull enough and engine is tuned, You will perform Shift Lock even GT helps You with double clutch. Looks Like Power Off, but is Shift Lock.

Remember, No Brake, No Heel-Toe. 👍

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GT rev matches for you.... Which is what you do when you heel toe so its the exact same thing.. I am right.


SHIFT LOCK- is when you downshift without heel toeing causing a disruption in the drivetrain forcing the engine to match rev's causing the rear tires to break lose but GT has always done rev matching without telling you just look at the rpm's when shifting. Its pretty obvious that without a clutch we can't simulate or even get close to shift lock.. go back to the GT3 forum we have gone over this numerous times and it just can't be done.


EDIT: even if GT double clutches.. you don't double clutch when you shift lock... So please prove me wrong there.