'99 Dodge Viper GTS Vs. '00 Chevrolet Corvette Z06

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1999 Dodge Viper GTS:
Engine: 7,997cc V10 OHV
Power: 449bhp @ 5,200RPM & 489.66 ft-lbs @ 3,700RPM
Transmission: Manual 6-Speed
Drivetrain: Front-Engine/Rear-Wheel-Drive
Tires: Sport Mediums
Weight: 1,569kg
Power Weight Ratio: 3.442
Driving Aids: TCS & ASM
Price: 78,000cr (as tested)

Test Course: 0-60: 4.20|0-100: 9.3160-400M: 12.31 @ 116mph|0-1000M: 22.30 @ 152mph|Speed: 191.33mph
Mid-Field Raceway: T1: 26.055| T2: 51.028| Overall: 1'21.322| Max Speed: 150mph
High Speed Ring: T1: 42.148| Overall: 1'17.913| Max Speed: 158mph

Synopsis: The Viper GTS has always been one of my favorite American sportscars, but I've always been too afraid to drive it, fearing it would spin out like crazy at the tap of the D-pad (like in previous games). But that wasn't the case this time around. The Viper showed me a great deal of control, but I guess that would actually derive from the ASM. It's perhaps the fastest stock car I've driven in GT4, and is also perhaps one of the most expensive cars I've boughti in GT4. But the performance definately backs up the price. Overall, the Viper is well rounded. Though, there were times in Mid-Field and Speed Ring to where I actually over-steered. The Viper doesn't react well under sudden velocity changes (eg. The first S-turn at Mid-Field and the S-turn at Speed Ring). But it also pulls hard out of every turn, which is a definate plus, and is something that salvaged the lap time.

2000 Chevrolet C5 Corvette Z06:
Engine: 5,665cc V8 OHV
Power: 379bhp @ 6,000RPM & 358.02 ft-lbs @ 4,800RPM
Transmission: Manual 6-Speed
Drivetrain: Front-Engine/Rear-Wheel-Drive
Tires: Sports Mediums
Weight: 1,409kg
Power Weight Ratio: 3.663
Driving Aids: TCS & ASM
Price: 53,570cr (as tested)

Test Course: 0-60: 4.07|0-100: 10.22|0-400: 12.54 @ 112mph|0-1000M: 22.82 @ 147mph|Speed: 180.10mph
Mid-Field Raceway: T1: 25.511| T2: 49.837| Overall: 1'20.574| Max Speed: 150mph
High Speed Ring: T1: 41.451| Overall: 1'18.150| Max Speed: 162mph

Synopsis: I feel right at home with the Corvette Z06. I have one in Gran Turismo Mode, which I've racked up 3,000 miles on. I call it the "Vetteran." But yeah, unlike the GTS, I'm no stranger to the Z06, perhaps giving it a distinct advantage, but the GTS has a 70bhp advantage. The Z06 ran smoothly on every course. I was suprised how the Z06 rang up a 12.5 in the 400M test. I was also suprised that the Vette beat the Viper in 0-60. I really don't see any cons when it comes to the Vette's performance in comparison to the GTS. It reacted well to everything Mid-Field and Speed Ring threw at it. Once out of 4 laps at Mid-Field the Vette's rear-wheels spun wildly through the S-turn, almost, nearly drifting the entire turn. But I caught it and saved the lap time.

Overall: The Corvette Z06 is the winner hands down. It registered better lap times at a lower price. Not only this, but I've tuned both cars (GTS and Z06) up to 570hp, using superchargers. I ran them at the 400M test. The Viper rang up a 10.5, while the Vette rang up 10.3. Top speeds were also significantly different, in the Vette's favor. The Z06 has great bang for the buck performance and awesome long term performance, somewhat unmatched by any other American sportscar of its caliber.

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Just goes to show people have different driving styles. I tested both on 16 different tracks and the Viper won hands down.

edit: I'm an idiot. I tested the Team Oreca and Corvette C5, so disregard. I'm on to production cars soon, so then I'll try those two you mentioned.
 
I think a car magazine did a similar comparison and the Viper came out on top.

Overall, good way to compare vehicles but the ultimate test would be to ask a "Viper Activist" to preform the same tests and find what the results may be. Not saying you did a biased job or anything but seeing as you were "scared" of the GTS, asking someone to preform the same test could possibly even out the results or maybe even prove your point.
 
Hi all,

I live in Belgium and I own a Dodge Viper RT/10.
Last month I participated in a Drag Race meeting weekend in Brustem (an old military airport here in Belgium), this race was totaly legal by the way. I lost there against a 350HP Seat Ibiza (2001 model). I even have a movie from it, filmed by my brother, who was sitting next to me. Believe me, the Dodge Viper is an awsome car and it looks very fast, wich ofcourse it also is, but stock, it isn't so fast as you would think...

here's the link to the movie:

http://rapidshare.de/files/3344766/IM001912.AVI.html

here's a photo, taken by a friend of mine, watching from the side....

http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/4416/pict09564bg.jpg


Grtz
 
momosportwagon
Hi all,

I live in Belgium and I own a Dodge Viper RT/10.
Last month I participated in a Drag Race meeting weekend in Brustem (an old military airport here in Belgium), this race was totaly legal by the way. I lost there against a 350HP Seat Ibiza (2001 model). I even have a movie from it, filmed by my brother, who was sitting next to me. Believe me, the Dodge Viper is an awsome car and it looks very fast, wich ofcourse it also is, but stock, it isn't so fast as you would think...

What time did you post? Is your Viper an auto or a manual? Just curious.
 
300zxfairman
I hope you know that the Dodge Viper would smoke the Vette in a drag race.
And thats happened. The Z06 was only quicker to 60mph, but the Viper clearly won. Like I said, it does have a 65hp advantage, and it doesn't weigh too much more than the Z06, and the power weight ratio is also better, which is why I decided to throw Mid-Field and High Speed Ring into the mix. Mid-field track is technical, giving the underdog a fighting chance. High Speed Ring gave an eqaul advantage to both cars.

Gentry Coach
Just goes to show people have different driving styles. I tested both on 16 different tracks and the Viper won hands down.

edit: I'm an idiot. I tested the Team Oreca and Corvette C5, so disregard. I'm on to production cars soon, so then I'll try those two you mentioned.
This comparison was pretty much just for referrence. I ran both cars 4-7 times around every track. The Viper showed me a great deal of acceleration out of the turns and off the line. But when it did come to quick directional changes, I couldn't stabilize it. The Vette pretty much took everything perfectly.

I just wanted to show people what to expect out of the finest American sportscars, which IMO comes down to the Z06 and GTS, because both are sought after models, and both are relatively inexpensive in comparison to other foreign sportscars of their calibure.

It was a fun test. I was going to throw a Cobra-R into the competition, but I couldn't find one. Anyway... Check out this MotorWeek Video:
Viper ACR Vs. Mustang Cobra-R Vs. Corvette Z06

They pretty much come up with the same results and experience the same factors I did with the Viper's handling.
 
I haven't run this comparison in GT4, but I ran one very much like it in GT3. With a budget of about 250,000 credits we had to turn in the fastest lap of Apricot Hill, a course that play to both handling and speed.

With both cars fairly built up - C5 Zo6 vs. Viper GTS - the Viper was nearly a second faster around Apricot Hill, while being much more stable and consistent as well.
 
For a more realistic experience, turn the Viper's driving aids off. The Viper has, in the words of Sports Car International editor emeritus Jay Lamm "No traction control, no traction, and no control."
 
The engine curve on the Z06 doesnt feel right. I mean it lags at low rpms while other cars like the Nissan silvia,RX7 have super flat torque curves.
 
Woolie Wool
For a more realistic experience, turn the Viper's driving aids off. The Viper has, in the words of Sports Car International editor emeritus Jay Lamm "No traction control, no traction, and no control."
Yeah, I was afraid of that. Thats one of the reasons I hated the Viper in previous GT games when you had to buy TCS and ASM (50,000cr I think it was?).
 
I honestly disagree, at least in GT game terms. To me the Viper is faster and more driveable, from stock to well-built.
 
Not particularly. In my GT driving experience, the Viper is faster and more consistent than the Z06.
 
chevguy
What time did you post? Is your Viper an auto or a manual? Just curious.

It's manual shifted, 6-vitesse...

I posted around dinner time (early evening, around half past 5)I'm not familiar with the PM and AM thing, because it is not used in Belgium.
We just count to 24. So on this moment here in Belgium, it's about 8 o'clock in the morning...
(sorry for offtopic)
 
First the caveats: I am a Viper fan, I tested the two cars with all mods available and racing mediums, and people drive differently :)

But, in my testing on 12 different tracks the Viper had better lap times on all 12 tracks.
 
I have to disagree with it being less driveable as well. Stock for stock, if I take the traction control off of the Viper GTS or the SRT-10 for that matter, I have absolutely no problems with it trying to fishtail or spin out at all. It doesn't even break traction on the tires unless I have to throw it down into first gear, and if I'm going to 1st that means I'm either at an extemely tight corner or I took the turn wrong. All of this is tested on medium sports tires as well. This has been the same in GT3 as well as GT4.

The Corvette Z06 on the other hand with traction control off, every time I try to hit the gas hard out of a corner it starts losing control, leaving me to feather it just right. It is a pain in the ass to drive, but I must admit with both cars at level 5 traction control the Corvette is the better handling car.

Both cars in my opinion haven't been changed one bit from Gran Turismo 3. It seems to me the GTS got a little remodeling done but thats about it. Also I have to say I find the GTSR Team Oreca to be a lot easier to control then the C5R, traction control or none.
 
i've tried the SVT cobra R vs the corvette and viper.

i was running about 2 seconds slower than the two of them.

the viper has power and the corvette is light.

the mustang is neither.

still pretty kickass however.
 
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