Weineck Cobra 780 - When death just doesn't arrive fast enough...

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Couple of excerpts from the press release...

what propels you has nearly 3 litres (the total capacity of e.g. a BMW 330i!) – more capacity than the biggest and strongest of all powerboat engines ever built…
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The rev. limiter is set to cut in at 8,000 rpm (the engine reaches its maximum power of, 1,100 hp at 7,000 rpm), and the gears have to be changed at 7,000 on the gauge, otherwise you already hit the limiter (the engine revs faster than the classic Smith instrument can follow!).
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the engine delivers its world record torque of 1,760 Nm at 5,600rpm
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That's 1,272 lbft...

With a weight-to-power ratio of 0.9Kg/hp, 12.9 litres of engine capacity, 1,100hp and 1,760Nm of torque
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Weineck's website...

Germany? You are nuts.
 
1,100bhp - in a Cobra kitcar??? - Cobra's struggled to cope with over 400bhp, i hope they've done something serious to the suspension setup. 👎 👎 👎
 
They've been at this lark for a few years now...

Chassis

The basis of this world-unique road-rocket is always the wide-hip body of the Cobra 427 SC in its original shape and dimensions which allows integration with modern vehicle components without disturbing the authentic look of the car. Its body is structured as follows:
MIG welded, self supporting tubular frame (diameter = 4”) to absorb very high torsion forces
all main parts of the chassis are built from aluminium and titanium
aluminium safety fuel tank integrated in tubular frame structure
body completely made from carbon composite materials (deep-drawn)
integrated reinforcements at high-wear points such as doors, hoods
highest quality paint coating individually coloured to the customer’s wishes
single wheel suspension
front and rear axle kept in place by Teflon and Unibal joints
power steering
safety roll-over bars

Brakes / suspension

-coil spring system
-continuously variable suspension (height and hardness individually adjustable)
-all suspension parts are made of aluminium and titanium
-specially engineered high-performance brake system (based on Brembo components) with internally ventilated, punched brake discs (front and rear axle) including special high-performance brake pads and Stahlflex brake hoses
-braking force (braking deceleration) controlled by an arm of balance system the engineering and setup of both suspension and brakes guarantees high precision driving (and braking) quality for highest active safety

Wheels/tyres

Front axle
3-piece 18” Weineck wheels with tyres 255/40 ZR 18 (Intermediate)
Rear axle
3-piece 18” Weineck wheels with tyres 315/35 ZR 18 (Intermediate)
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Ummmm, the suspension still seems pretty rudamentory, even if all the componants are alloy or titanium - instead of Mk3 Cortina axels with Morris Marina uprights like most kit cars seem to have!
 
The body is probably one of the nicest examples of a Cobra shell I've ever seen, but holy cow, those statistics.
Not a fan of the hood vent, yeah I know its function, but I probably would have crafted that so it was more subtle and flowed with the Cobra's lines better.

Any videos been made available yet Famine?
 
TheCracker
Ummmm, the suspension still seems pretty rudamentory, even if all the componants are alloy or titanium - instead of Mk3 Cortina axels with Morris Marina uprights like most kit cars seem to have!
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Fake Snake suspension is usually rather up-to-date. I'd imagine, though I'm not familiar with this particular car or indeed suspension technology terminology, if they want to put 1,100hp and 1,200lbft onto the deck in hyper-efficient Chermany, they'd do it right...
 
85 hp per liter, and an 8000 rpm rev limiter... at 13 liters??? What's that engine made of? Unobtanium?

Damn, I want one... I bet it's quick enough to take anything else on the road if you shift at idle. :lol:
 
I've heared of Weineck Cobra's before, they've been offereing a 1200bhp cobra since 2000. It's impressive, but from what I know of the car it's vastly overpowered, ie you won't get full use of thoes 1200 horses. Thouigh to some Cobra lovers, that's a selling point.
 
The thing is, it's completely wretched excess, to the point of actual counterproductivity.

No matter how good the suspension setup, that kind of power is simply going to annihilate the back tires any time you get into it at all, thereby ruining your chances of actually using the potential acceleration.
 
Famine
Fake Snake suspension is usually rather up-to-date. I'd imagine, though I'm not familiar with this particular car or indeed suspension technology terminology, if they want to put 1,100hp and 1,200lbft onto the deck in hyper-efficient Chermany, they'd do it right...
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That stance tells me the car is set up for cornering, not launches--I'd still expect it would have tons of wheelspin at 60+ mph. With that much hp, you need weight transfer to hook up.
 
Duke
The thing is, it's completely wretched excess, to the point of actual counterproductivity.

No matter how good the suspension setup, that kind of power is simply going to annihilate the back tires any time you get into it at all, thereby ruining your chances of actually using the potential acceleration.
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Unless it has one wide back tire (a la Fred Flintstone).

nike
What's that engine made of? Unobtanium?
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Damn straight!!!
 
Duke
The thing is, it's completely wretched excess, to the point of actual counterproductivity.

No matter how good the suspension setup, that kind of power is simply going to annihilate the back tires any time you get into it at all, thereby ruining your chances of actually using the potential acceleration.
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Theres no way 1000+bhp can be put to good (or any) use without a) decent wide tyres, b) sopisticated suspension, c) 4WD or d) some kind of traction control. I can see none of these on the spec sheets so suspect, as Duke said, masses of wheel spin, destroyed rear tyres and a high probability of been blown away at the lights by laughing teenagers in riced Civics. Cobras had crap aerodynamics and highspeed stability, so i doubt it even manages to get above 160mph anyway.

...sounds like about 780bhp too much. :ouch: - maybe that's where the name comes from?
 
It apparently hit's 120mph in just 5.9 and goes onto a top speed of 210mph. I'd like to see that before I believe it, the acceleration especially since I've also heared it hit's 180mph in not much over 10 seconds, which I DON'T believe.
 
TheCracker
Cobras had crap aerodynamics
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"Aerodynamics are for people who cannot build engines" (Enzo Ferrari - amusingly)
 
Considering that the Cobras I've seen here struggle to keep the tires from spinning even with your standard Ford 289, 302, and 351 all of which have less than 350HP, this straddles the line of stupid and insane. Sure, I'd love to have a Cobra replica of my own... But I would be perfectly content with a 302 and 300HP under the hood, no need for an engine that is 6.5 times larger than the one found in my Jetta.
 
I'm scared, somebody hold me.

Just kidding, but seriously, if anyone here buys one, let me know when your taking it out, i'll hide out in my bomb shelter till your either wrapped around a tree or its parked back in your garage, which ever one comes first.
 
TheCracker
Theres no way 1000+bhp can be put to good (or any) use without a) decent wide tyres, b) sopisticated suspension, c) 4WD or d) some kind of traction control. I can see none of these on the spec sheets so suspect, as Duke said, masses of wheel spin, destroyed rear tyres and a high probability of been blown away at the lights by laughing teenagers in riced Civics. Cobras had crap aerodynamics and highspeed stability, so i doubt it even manages to get above 160mph anyway.

...sounds like about 780bhp too much. :ouch: - maybe that's where the name comes from?
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That thing will hook and go with the right set of tires ;)
 
Id be scared that this engines torque would warp the chassis but as it obviously doesnt it shows that most likely the chassis wont having anything cobra left to it.
 
Digging through the pictures, I couldnt help but notice on top of the 1200~ HP figures, those guys had the nerve to install a Nitrous tank in the trunk! Just so you have the peace of mind that "its there if you need it"

That mustang they have looks pretty sweet though, I'd take it over the cobra.
 
:drool: That... Is... awesome. Crazy Germans... When's old Carroll going to take one of these things for a spin?
 
The Porko
That is just insane.... driving that thing is asking for a death wish.
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No, it's more like suicide. The original Cobra from what I've read are a handful, but this ride is :dunce:. Just say no to this, just keep it in the garage as a showpiece and push it out to the drive way.:sly:
 
:drool: :drool: :drool:

No way....there's no way that thing exists...... :scared: It's one of the greatest things to have ever happened to the automotive world...

...and that engine...it's the combination of American and European ideals -- massive displacement with precision engineering... :drool:
 
1100bhp it may have, but it still looks like a 250 quid amateur garage job from the outside.
 
How so, the bodywork is almost the exact same as the Cobra 427's, or do you think that looks like a 250 quid amature job too. The only diference is the big intake on the bonnet, which looks naff imo.
 

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