Mallender Racing: Disturbing The Peace! 9/6/07 update

GET STRANGE! Got a car that just WON'T work for you? We'll shoot at it with a Minigun until it behaves. All we ask is that you, the customer, take the time to write up how you want the car to drive, your budget, or give a parts list. We will listen to you. Feedback is greatly appreciated, though not required, and we do not believe in making the customer pay until they have received. It is hoped that one should provide feedback on their own requested vehicle once it is finished, and a review of existing vehicles helps us improve our tuning overall.

And, of course, how could we not list the current setups?

COMPLETED TUNES:

SUPRA RZ: Post 2

ALFA ROMEO GT 3.2 Sprint: Post 4

1997 MX-5 SR-SPECIAL SPEC II: Post 6

1991 Mazda 787B: Post 9

1995 Integra: Post 11

2000 Legacy B4 Blitzen Spec R: Post 14

1992 Lancer Evo: Post 16

Audi TT-R: Post 17

2005 BMW 330i: Post 19

1988 Silvia K's: Post 20

2002 Mazda RX-7 RS-X Type A: Post 22

DRAG: All in post 8.
1987 GNX
(Others on REQUEST!)


COMPLETE Requests:

1. Supra RZ. Did it MY WAY, as power level, tires, etc. were not specified. In post 2

2. BayConRong's MX-5. Post #6. Long turnaround due to customer being incommunicado since finishing, clearance for publicizing finally granted.

3. 13thmonkey's 787B: Post 9.

TO BE POSTED:
None right now.

REQUEST QUEUE:
None at the moment.

Gots its? If you like any of the posted jobs, give the good:tup: and the bad:tdown:, and what should be changed. (In the characteristics of the car's handling) Requests are to be made via PM or post, and it's up to you if you wish to have your setup publicized.

SUPRA RZ

Finished, but it took me long enough!! Buy everything except the rollcage, brake balance controller, and turbo kit (intercooler you DO need, though)

Runs R2 tires.

Suspension:

Spring rate:------7.6/10.6
Height:-----------130/130
Bound:-----------3/3
Rebound:---------5/5
Camber:----------1.5/0.7
Stabilizers:-------2/6

Gearing:
Set final to 4.100, autoset 13. Set ratios to [2.320/1.690/1.290/1.000/0.800/0.622] final is 5.140

LSD: 50/25/5

This car is stable, and decently balanced, but it has a tendency to sneak a little oversteer up on you. Only in low-speed, long turns (2nd gear), however. The low gearing helped this greatly, but it's still there. Take it around Amalfi with a final-drive of 2.730, and slow up for the corners to ~50MPH, keep it floored around the corner, and the car starts coming out from under you. Other than that, it corners well, with no oversteer that'll kill you.

Truthfully, though: This car doesn't do anything perfect, nor does it do everything well. Want an FR? Get an RX-7/8. Want a bahn burner? Get a Skyline. Or a Viper with 1000hp. A wing would help it, as would gripper tires, but its just too violent for anything BUT wide-open, no-corner tracks with full power, and torque comes on too suddenly and too strongly to be truly EFFECTIVE at this power level. It's done, it's decent, but I sure as heck don't have to like it. Very many cars work better than it.

-Kyle

Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 Sprint
246hp

Parts list: FC suspension, FC LSD, Engine balancing, racing brakes, racing chip

Suspension:
Spring Rate----------4.5/4.0
Ride Height----------95/95
Bound---------------3/3
Rebound-------------5/5
Camber--------------1.5/0.8
Toe------------------0/-2
Stabilizers------------4/5

LSD:
15
30
5

MAZDA MX-5 MIATA SR-LIMITED SPEC II (1997)

PARTS LIST:

Racing Exhaust

Racing Chip

S2 tires

Stage 2 Turbine kit

Racing Brakes

Racing Suspension

Full Customized Transmision

Triple plate Clutch

Racing flywheel

Carbon Driveshaft

No Spoiler

Standard limited slip

SUSPENSION:

Spring Rate--------5.6/7.5
Ride Height--------100/100
Bound-------------3/3
Rebound-----------5/5
Camber------------2.0/1.0; Didn't feel like fooling with it.
Toe----------------1/-1
Stabilizers---------3/5

GEARING:
Set final drive to max (5.500), set autoset at 1, and set ratios of [2.320/1.690/1.290/1.000/0.750]. Adjust final drive for each track, 5.000 gives approx. 150mph top speed and decent gearing for low-speed stages as well. (I use 2.32/1.69/1.29/1.00 on all my cars, 6-speeds get .800 5th and .622 6th.)

Corners decent, and is dead-on with gearing so wheelspin rarely occurs. Takes the already great cornering Miata and makes it better. Better tires, and it = slot car. Tell me what you think!

DRAG TUNES:

1987 Buick GNX (2007 Mallender Racing Grand National Xperimental)

Buy it ALL, but leave the stock exhaust, no cage, and level 2 weight reduc.
200KG ballast, in the trunk
Ratios: Set final to 3.73, autoset to 14. Now set gear ratios at [2.32/1.69/1.29/1.00/0.8/0.622], and final to 4.000

SUSPENSION:

Spring rate-----4.0/2.6
Height:--------192/170
Bound---------1/3
Rebound-------1/10
toe and camber at 0
Stabilizers------1/7

LSD: 60/60/5

Spray: 50hp shot.

Take it to Vegas, mat the gas, let it launch, pull 2nd at 5 grand, hit the spray, continue to shift at 5K, and hold on for a 10 second ride.

787B Endurance Tune:

Keep 'er stock, but run R2s. Who needs power when you can CORNER?

SUSPENSION:
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Spring Rate:-------8.0/4.0
Ride Height:-------85/95
Shock Bound:-----1/1
Shock Rebound:---1/1 The soft shocks allow the car to "follow" the road surface better on rough tracks, and the soft rear compresses lower than the nose to reduce drag under acceleration
Camber:----------2.3/1.8
Toe:--------------0/0
Stabilizers:--------4/6
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Transmission:
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Final to 5.000, auto set to 4, then set ratios and final.
Ratios are [3.062/2.060/1.495/1.200/1.000]
Final of 3.400

I may change the ratios to lengthen 1st/2nd a bit, but I'm happy with the 3.4 ratio overall 5th. It has a problem with unloading the rear tires at bad times over bumps/dusty spots on the track in second, a problem I did not notice with steeper gears (On R1's for testing, because I want it controllable). (I had done some experimenting with a taller final to see if it would help the straights, but it didn't.)

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LSD/Downforce and others:
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LSD: 10/20/20

Downforce: 63/88

Aids: None at all, toss TCS to 3 if you drive with a controller or have a right foot that is always up or down, as well as for when B-spec Bastard drives. TCS is not needed for use with R3 tires unless BSB is driving.

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Notes: The car has a noticeable rear-high rake sitting still/coasting, but the tail squats (and the nose comes up a little) under acceleration, and the tail winds up lower than the nose. Downforce drops along with drag to help with straight line performance. (Pesky high-power reciprocals!)

For my driving style, the car seems to meld with you; it becomes one with you. A 787 with R5 tires might actually compete with the FGT for best cornering honors. And of course, it's a rotary, it's fast, and you can't make it look ugly in either available livery. (Black or the orange and green Reknown livery.)

It's nice to see you're having a good time replying to your own posts.

1995 Honda Integra "Inferno":

R3 tires, racing exhaust, chip, stage 1 turbo, FC gearbox, FC suspension, triple plate clutch, port polish, balancing, race flywheel, level 3 weight reduction.

SUSPENSION:
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Spring Rate:-------7.5/7.5
Ride Height:-------115/115
Shock Bound:-----3/3
Shock Rebound:---5/5
Camber:----------2.3/1.8
Toe:--------------0/2
Stabilizers:--------4/6
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Transmission:
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Final to 5.500, auto set to 1, then set ratios and final.
Ratios are [2.908/2.149/1.665/1.378/1.160/1.000]]
Final of 3.73

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LSD/Downforce and others:
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LSD: 10/20/20

Downforce: None needed!

Aids: None at all
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Notes: I like the way this car turned out. Completely neutral, never vicious, and the brakes will save you every time. I fly into the section at the end of Dottinger Hohe like I do with no other car, and slam the brakes at 130-140 where most cars would need to be going 80-90 to brake enough. Capable of sub-8 minute times @ the Ring. Be kind to the throttle in 1st, it likes to light the tires up a little bit.

Maybe you should check this thread out.

Rotary Junkie

I'm working out a Supra RZ with full power and R2 tires (I'm that cheap. If I can make it good on crap tires, I am positive that it's good on better tires.)

Click to expand...

Very interesting stuff but are you saying here that R2s are crap tyres?

If that's the case I'm going to have to disagree in rather a large way. Tune a high power car and make it drivable on N2 or N3 and people might buy your argument about it then being good on better tyres, but R2s are grippy enough to hide a range of problems all by themselves.


Regards

Scaff

2000 Subaru Legacy Blitzen Spec R:

Fully modified, uses stage 3 turbo and FC suspension.

SUSPENSION:
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Spring Rate:-------7.5/7.5
Ride Height:-------120/125
Shock Bound:-----3/3
Shock Rebound:---5/5
Camber:----------2.3/1.8
Toe:--------------0/0
Stabilizers:--------3/5
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Transmission:
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Final to 5.500, auto set to 1, then set ratios and final.
Ratios are [2.886/2.133/1.653/1.336/1.148/1.000]
Final of 3.080

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LSD/Downforce and others:
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LSD: 10/20/20 front and 10/25/20 rear

VCD: 50

Downforce: 30/30

Aids: None at all
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Notes: Good luck upsetting this car! Stable until doomsday, abd ut doesn't understeer.

Rotary Junkie

Ok, but if I wanted to make a crap setup good, I'd just toss R5's and call it a day. R2's are the second-worst racing tires, and are much cheaper than R3s. I admit to R2s being somewhat too grippy for absolute accuracy, but as I saw it, they ARE one of the most effective upgrades one can make, being cheap at 10K, and a good bit grippier than stockers.

I'll prolly start tuning with N3s on the next car, so... But the final tune will include R2s.

Click to expand...

Oh I don't disagree that tyres are one the single best upgrades you can have, simply that in the scheme of things R2's are far from poor tyres.

The following may be of interest to you in regard to the differences between the various tyre types in GT4...

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=71113

...regards

Scaff

1992 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution "Evilution"

Fully modified, Original turbo kit, no brake balance controller, FC suspension, R3 tires.

SUSPENSION:
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Spring Rate:-------7.5/8.5
Ride Height:-------115/120
Shock Bound:-----3/3
Shock Rebound:---5/5
Camber:----------2.3/1.8
Toe:---------------1/1
Stabilizers:--------4/6
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Transmission:
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Final to 6.500, auto set to 1, then set ratios and final.
Ratios are [2.320/1.690/1.290/1.000/0.802/0.637]
Final of 5.000

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LSD/Downforce and others:
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LSD: 10/20/5 front and rear

VCD: 15

Downforce: None needed!

Aids: None at all
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Notes: Somehow, this car manages to slow itself down in a straight line; Acceleration is poor for such a light car, especially one with over 400hp. Going to taller ratios does not help it, rather it gets slowed down. Despite the seeming utter LACK of power, cornering is awesome for an econobox with front and rear facias, a wing, and a hot powertrain with 250hp stock and AWD.

So, cornering is killer, but acceleration is not what it should be.

Abt Audi TT-R Touring Car "Annihilator":

Bone, dry, dead stock. You'll never need more power with this car's cornering prowess.

SUSPENSION:
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Spring Rate:-------10.0/10.0
Ride Height:-------85/85
Shock Bound:-----3/5
Shock Rebound:---3/5
Camber:----------2.0/1.5
Toe:--------------0/0
Stabilizers:--------4/4
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Transmission:
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Final to 5.000, auto set to 12, then set ratios and final.
Ratios are [2.320/1.690/1.290/1.000/.792/.622]
Final of 5.00

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LSD/Downforce and others:
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LSD: 7/15/5

Downforce: 38/53

Aids: None at all
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Notes: Cornering is much more neutral than stock, and the car isn't upset by irregularities in the road. Makes the AI wonder what the hell happened. I have yet to try winning the DTCM in B-spec with this setup/car. If the engine note didn't put me to sleep, I'd be racing it right now.

As a Rotary Junkie you should do a 787 B
And if it we,re up to me you,d tune it for the Nurb

2005 BMW 330i:

Port Polish, engine balancing, chip, NA stage 1, FC suspension/LSD, racing brakes.

SUSPENSION:
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Spring Rate:-------5.8/5.0
Ride Height:-------120/120
Shock Bound:-----3/3
Shock Rebound:---5/5
Camber:----------1.5/0.8
Toe:--------------0/0
Stabilizers:--------4/5
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Transmission:
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Uses stock transmission

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LSD/Downforce and others:
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LSD: 15/30/5

Downforce: None needed!

Aids: None at all
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Notes: B-spec Barry likes it better than the stock lsd and suspension, as well as taking it over the default settings. Fun to drive, albeit slow compared to some rockets, but it works. Very stable, few shimmies and shakes on the 'Ring.

1998 Nissan SILVIA 180RS Autech version: (1988 Silvia K's)

Fully modded, stage 3 turbo, R3 tires.

SUSPENSION:
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Spring Rate:-------5.0/6.0
Ride Height:-------95/100
Shock Bound:-----3/3
Shock Rebound:---5/5
Camber:----------2.0/1.5
Toe:--------------1/-1
Stabilizers:------- 3/4
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Transmission:
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Final to 5.500, auto set to 13, then set ratios and final.
Ratios are [2.320/1.690/1.290/1.000/.800/.622]
Final of 4.660

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LSD/Downforce and others:
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LSD: 25/30/10

Downforce: 30/15

Aids: None at all
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Notes: I decided to build a "pure" sports car; I built a race car. Hard to get it bent out of shape, easy to drive it fast.

Tough to beat this power to weight and capability for this price.

A'ight, as you can see, I've added a few setups!

Please, feedback is appreciated, it's not always an instant process!

2002 Mazda RX-7 RS-X Type A

Must have FC suspension, weight reduc stage 2-3, and a LSD. Trans reccomended. See notes.

SUSPENSION:
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Spring Rate:-------6.0/8.0
Ride Height:-------130/134
Shock Bound:-----3/3
Shock Rebound:---5/5
Camber:----------2.5/2.0
Toe:--------------0/0
Stabilizers:--------4/5
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Transmission:
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Final to 5.500, auto set to 1, then set ratios and final.
Ratios are [2.730/2.018/1.593/1.315/1.135/1.000]
Final of 3.080, see notes.

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LSD/Downforce and others:
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LSD: 10/20/20

Downforce: None, but see notes

Aids: None at all
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Notes: This car will work at sub-450hp levels on S grade tires very well, but adding downforce will help the car on these tires as it's easy to overdrive it at the limit at 400hp. It'll stay happy on R1's all the way up to full power, but wheelspin can be a problem in first. Hope you like the balance.

Extras: Racing brakes and balance controller: Set the balance controller to 5/5 for R-grade tires, revert to fully stock brakes on S grades.

Downforce: Untested, but should make this into the ultimate supercar whopster. Cornering would give a good Group C a run for its money.

Legacy is up! Post 14.

Post 14.

An awesome example picture would be my Legacy.



I'll test out your Legacy sometime this week and I'll tell you what I think.

I'd have an example pic for all of them if I hadn't lost my flash drive.

The 22B will go in that darned double. It's a loose cannon compared to the Legacy, no matter WHAT you do.

22B? Properly tuned it'll keep up with Zonda's and such.. just for fun, try "Frost" settings in it.

R.J, if you post the settings for the 22B up I'd be more than happy to write up a review. I've done a bit of testing on this car myself and it'll be good to see which direction you've taken for the car.

Pyrelli

A'ight, I'll toss them up.

EDIT: Not today, I'm afraid. Gotta do a bunch of stuff.

A'ight, the 22B hit some development problems.

Later today I'll toss up a Spirit R that I did. Happy on S2's when at 400hp, awesome at 600 with R1's, R3's preferred.

Oops, it had slipped my mind. Will put up shortly.
Up in post 22.

Well, a bit of advisement would be appreciated.