'05 Mustang and Keys

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I heard a rumor that Ford only made 52 different keys for the '05 Mustang. I really don't believe it and sounds like BS to me but was just wondering what you guys know about how many keys are produced for cars and such. Just another one of my random questions :)

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Kev D. :cheers:
 
That cannot be true. It was probably a rumor that was started when the car first came out. I doubt car companies would be stupid enough to do something like that.
 
Its probably not 52, thats a very low number. But, its not very many, I'll tell you that. Back many years ago, I used to work valet. We once gave the wrong Grand Cherokee to a couple. We had 2 GC's parked nose to nose in the lot, one black, the other dark blue, and it was midnight. When the guy I was working with went to get the car, he unlocked, got in, started, drove up, and gave the Jeep to the couple. About 10 minutes later, they came back. Guy gets out and says, "this isnt our car, its Black with tan leather, not blue" No one noticed at first because it was so dark. But, down the road, they noticed little things, and realized the problem. Turns out, the keys we had to the 2 Jeeps worked on both of them. I don't know how many keys the manufacturers make, but its not one per car, thats for sure. The chances of something like that happening are slim, especially with the newer remotes and immobilizers. But, the chance IS there.

Hilg
 
I remember reading somewhere that 80's GM cars had 1000 different key combinations, not sure how accurate that info is.
 
VIPERGTSR01
I remember reading somewhere that 80's GM cars had 1000 different key combinations, not sure how accurate that info is.
But they had different ignition and door keys. That works out to less than 35 keys for each lock.
 
VIPERGTSR01
I remember reading somewhere that 80's GM cars had 1000 different key combinations, not sure how accurate that info is.

I've heard similar numbers. GM cars also used two keys: the round head for doors, and the square head for the ignition.

I've heard fairly low numbers for most Chrysler products, which apparently makes them fairly easy to steal. (I've used a Dakota key to unlock my Spirit; it wouldn't work in the ignition, which was the only thing that tipped me off as to having used the wrong key)
 
VIPERGTSR01
I remember reading somewhere that 80's GM cars had 1000 different key combinations, not sure how accurate that info is.

Here is an interesting thing about those separate door and ignition keys. The door key to my 85 Chevy Pickup worked in the ignition of my friend's 86 Buick Regal and his ignition key worked in the door to my truck. My ignition key worked in his door and his door key worked in my ignition. Just an interesting coincidence about those GM keys...
 
slimer90210
Here is an interesting thing about those separate door and ignition keys. The door key to my 85 Chevy Pickup worked in the ignition of my friend's 86 Buick Regal and his ignition key worked in the door to my truck. My ignition key worked in his door and his door key worked in my ignition. Just an interesting coincidence about those GM keys...

sounds like they rotate the keys
 
KevsfastZ
sounds like they rotate the keys

I'm sure they do but I had always assumed they roteded them independant of each other, IE the door key would go to olds and the ignition key would go to buick or at least give them to different models.
 
slimer90210
I'm sure they do but I had always assumed they roteded them independant of each other, IE the door key would go to olds and the ignition key would go to buick or at least give them to different models.

Yeah that would make sense, I just wish I knew how they do it but that would be a security issue if the public found out :sly: I remember awhile ago some guy had a ring full of keys for some Ford(don’t remember) and would go around and just hop in cars and drive away 💡 :lol:
 
I don't know if it's true about the keys.
But a few months ago I was coming home from a date with my wife.
I activated the garage door opener, and the alarms and flashers went off on my next door neighbor's Ford Truck and his Expedition. It was storming at the time, and it hasn't happened since...

Last weekend we had some friends stay the night with us. In the morn when one of them use the remote to lock their Chevy Trailblazer, it set off the alarm and lights in my wife's Camry.
 
Gil
I don't know if it's true about the keys.
But a few months ago I was coming home from a date with my wife.
I activated the garage door opener, and the alarms and flashers went off on my next door neighbor's Ford Truck and his Expedition. It was storming at the time, and it hasn't happened since...

Last weekend we had some friends stay the night with us. In the morn when one of them use the remote to lock their Chevy Trailblazer, it set off the alarm and lights in my wife's Camry.

wired...
 
even if they did make 52 keys, most cars these days are fitted with immobiliser security coding in the key handle and barrel. so you at least wouldn't be able to start the ignition, even if you had one of the matching 52 keys. i'd expect they'd have a similar thing in the doors too
 
This reminds me of something I read a while back. People were going to malls and other big parking lots and sitting in their car, waiting for someone to park close to them. They would then hold down one of the buttons on the "Homelink" receiver in the car to "program" the receiver. But, instead of getting the signal of a garage opener or gate opener like usual, it would get the signal of the persons remote as they hit the button to lock their car. Then, when they went inside, all the person had to do was hit the Homelink button, and it would unlock the car. They then had free access to the car. When they were done, they could then lock the car back up, and no one would know what happened. Crazy. This obviously is practically impossible with newer cars and their frequency and code jumping they do, but still. Older cars are just as vulnerable now as they were a few years ago.

Hilg
 
Super Jamie
sounds like gone in 60 seconds to me
Yea, its the same process, except they were using actual code grabbers in the movie. This "Homelink" way would only work at close range, thus why people would have to sit in the car close by in the parking lot. That was also back in the late 90s, so it was before "Gone in 60" came out.

Hilg
 
Well, theres only one way to find out isn't there?

*Runs off to local Ford dealership, steals mustang keys, and goes mustang hunting.
 
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