100% compete with 17 cars and 350,890cr total spent

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I won sim mode the summer of 2001, then I finished getting 100% compete last summer, and this summer I restarted and decided to get all gold. Then I decided to win with minimum milage in the minimum number of days. Then I decided to win only buying 2 cars. Then I decided to use the minimum number of cars possible. Then I decided to try and use the minimum amount of upgrades on all those cars so that it might actually be a challenge. Well, I just finished, and here's what I used:

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   Car                         HP  cost
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 1 Viper GTSR Concept          498      0
 2 Miata MX-5 LS               156      0
 3 Impreza Rally Car Prototype 467 14,500
 4 F094/S                      790      0
 5 Clio Sport Race Car         285      0
 6 New Beetle Cup Car          202      0
 7 Vitz RS 1.5 (pink)          268 41,350
 8 Spoon Sports Civic Type R   296 14,500
 9 Altezza LM Race Car         597      0
10 Skyline GT-R Vspec II (R32) 536 49,000
11 Suzuki Alto Works            72  3,650
12 Lancer Evo VII Rally Proto. 301      0
13 Audi TT 1.8T Quattro        302 27,500
14 Zonda Race Car              651      0
15 Elise 190                   280 34,300
16 SLK 230 Kompressor          319 30,000
17 Tuscan Speed Six            350 10,750

        Total oil/tires/upgrades: 225,550
       +136,090 for SLK & Tuscan: 361,640

I suppose it's pretty obvious what cars I used for what events. It would've been possible to win using only 16 cars, but then you have to actually purchase a 3rd car.

I found that it's just not necessary to buy suspension, brake, transmission or LSD upgrades. If you're using a decent car, it works pretty well out of the box. Even on Test Course, you never need to buy a transmission upgrade. The AI always uses the stock trasmission, so they're hitting the rev limiter the same time you do (although the Vitz race on Test Course did take a steady thumb).

There are a couple places I could've saved more money. I won SS11 in the Vitz race by 12 sec, and I think I could've left off Stage 2 Lightweight. I also could've gone without the Stage 2 Lightweight and more on the Skyline -- once I got the hang of that horrible understeering & oversteering beast, it was a little too easy. I have a feeling I also could've spent less on the Tuscan if I would've stuck with normal tires and just changed the oil and added an NA tune. As it is, I was finishing about 20 sec ahead per race with T2's an no oil change. The Tuscan Challenge really doesn't deserve to be sitting next to the Vitz & Elise races...

The Stage 2 Turbo on the Impreza was a little bit of overkill for rally events, but it just wasn't possible to win the Pro Boxer Spirit without it. There are some fast RUF's in there that don't pit, and with the T5's that come on the Impreza, I had to pit once.

Normal tires really aren't that bad, especially on smaller cars. I left normal tires on the Spoon Civic, the Alto Works, the Audi TT and the SLK 230. The Audi handles so badly it was nice to be able to slide around a bit. It was the only car that absolutely needed a suspension upgrade. A Sports Suspension with 3.0 camber in the front really helped.

Doing the Lightweight Cup with a 72 HP Alto Works with nothing but an oil change, intercooler & flywheel was a lot of fun. Laguna Seca seemed like a totally different track in that car.

The Elise Trophy was the biggest challenge. The Motorsport Elises are really hard to catch on Deep Forest and Rome. I didn't qualify for any of the races, and it's pretty easy to get bumped and taken out of the race as you run through the pack in the first few laps. I also did the Spider & Roadster races with the Elise 190. There's a Griffith 500, Elise, and a Motor Sport Elise in there most of the time. The Griffith pits on lap 5, but is fast enough that he usually gets back into 1st pretty soon. By the time I got to Monaco in the Pro Spider & Roadster, I was down to 271 HP, but the AI just doesn't know how to drive at all at Monaco -- the Griffith was always spinning at the back chicane, and the AI Elise 190 was just stuck on the wall for several laps.

Anyway, I thought it was a fun challenge. It's nice to have something more specific you're going for besides just trying to setup random races and make them a challenge.

Edit: OOPS! Forgot to add the tires I bought for the Tuscan to the final total.
 
I suppose I'll also give a breakdown of what I used the cars for:

Viper GTSR Concept: PD Cup, Trial Mountain Endurance, Stars & Stripes
Miata MX-5 LS: Roadster Endurance
Impreza Rally Car Prototype: Rally events, Boxer Spirit
F094/S: Formula GT
Clio Sport Race Car: Clio Trophy
New Beetle Cup Car: Beetle Cup, Beginner FF Challenge
Vitz RS 1.5: Vitz Races, Am/Pro FF Challenge
Spoon Sports Civic Type R: Type-R Meeting
Altezza LM Race Car: Altezza Race, Pro Turbo Sports
Skyline GT-R Vspec II (R32): Red Emblems, 80's Cups, Pro 4WD Challenge
Suzuki Alto Works: Lightweight Cup
Lancer Evo VII Rally Prototype: Evolution Meeting
Audi TT 1.8T Quattro: Tourist Trophy
Zonda Race Car: Italian Avant Garde
Elise 190: Elise Trophy, Spider & Roadster
SLK 230 Kompressor: Silver Arrows
Tuscan Speed Six: Tuscan Challenge

I tore through most of the endurance races with the F094/S, but other than that, I tried to use appropriate cars for all the events.
 
Hmm i was just wondering what you would've done had you won a car that you really didnt want?, i gather you could have sold it and done the event over again, but then it would have clocked up the days taken.
 
Originally posted by Gt3iSaLlIc
Hmm i was just wondering what you would've done had you won a car that you really didnt want?, i gather you could have sold it and done the event over again, but then it would have clocked up the days taken.
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You can still save before the last race of a series. You just have to re-run the last race of the series until you get the car you want, instead of just reloading and quitting until you get it.
 
Originally posted by Gt3iSaLlIc
Hmm i was just wondering what you would've done had you won a car that you really didnt want?, i gather you could have sold it and done the event over again, but then it would have clocked up the days taken.
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youre such a cynic Gt3iSaLlIc :lol:
 
lol, this time in 299 days? j/k didn't you count the times before? :odd: Sheesh, I don't know weither to be impressed or scared? Anyways, I congradulate you since I wouldn't be able to do that.

Nick:banghead:
 
Excellent work, Bad Badtz! Very thoroughly researched and well executed. Very very very go job.
 
Originally posted by VipFREAK
lol, this time in 299 days? j/k didn't you count the times before? :odd: Sheesh, I don't know weither to be impressed or scared? Anyways, I congradulate you since I wouldn't be able to do that.
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Count the times before? :confused:
I've only actually got 100% two times... The first time was 365 days and I didn't play again for a year.
 
Originally posted by Der Alta
Bad Batsu: Take a look at this guy's thread RoadHazzard's perfect game
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Whoa... He was doing the exact same thing. I think I saw that thread a long time ago, but I didn't read past the first post. I see he put miles on the Xsara Rally Car very early then got mad about it later... And he spent 137,960cr on the SLK 230 (since he used it for Pro Spider & Roadster)... Then he started over! But he still spent 482,040cr on the game he finished.

He had the exact same cars, except he used the F687/S instead of the F094/S, the CLK55 instead of the SLK 230 (cost 11,050cr more with upgrades), and the Mira instead of the Alto Works (which can get by without a Stage 1 Turbo). The only place he spent less was on the Skyline (but he spent a lot less and got by with almost 100hp less).
 
Thanks everybody. :)

Now where are all those "get a life" comments? :lol:

I might as well post the info I compiled for the 9 cars I had to upgrade, just in case anybody finds this sort of thing interesting. My cost analyses was done in terms of how many credits it costs per percent boost to power.

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Subaru Impreza Rally Car Prototype:	14,500 TOTAL
	Turbo Kit/Stage2:		14,500
There aren't many upgrades you can get for this car, and I just couldn't cut it in the Pro Boxer Spirit with a Stage 1 Turbo. A Stage 2 Turbo is cheaper than getting a Stage 1 and T2 tires anyway, so it was the best way to beat those quick RUF's.
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Vitz RS 1.5				41,350 TOTAL  (114.3 base HP)
	Oil				   250	109 -> 114HP	  5.0% =   50cpp
	Turbo Kit/Stage2		13,000	114 -> 234HP	105.0% =  123cpp
	Racing Chip			 1,250	234 -> 244HP	  4.0% =  321cpp
	Muffler & Air Cleaner/Racing	 4,600	244 -> 268HP	 10.0% =  451cpp
	Lightweight/Stage1		 1,100	940 -> 911kg	  3.2% =  344cpp
	Lightweight/Stage2		 5,300	911 -> 874kg	  4.2% = 1262cpp
	Racing Tires/T2 Super-slick	10,250
	Flywheel/Racing			 1,000
	Clutch/Triple Plate		 4,600
Really easy to drive once you get the hang of it. The lack of suspension, brake, transmission and LSD upgrades make turning a little more fun. I say that if a Vitz handles well, it isn't really a Vitz at all! Trying to keep the speed 1 MPH under the rev limiter at Test Course was a bit tedious.
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Spoon Civic Type-R(J)			14,500 TOTAL  (225.2 base HP)
	Oil				   250	214 -> 225HP	  5.0% =   50cpp
	Racing Chip			 1,250	225 -> 234HP	  4.0% =  321cpp
	NA Tune-up / Stage 2		12,000	234 -> 296HP	 26.5% =  453cpp
	Flywheel/Racing			 1,000
This little box of crap is the only Type R Meeting car you can win. Running on Normal tires actually seems to help it slide around corners a little better.
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Skyline GT-R Vspec II(R32,J)		49,000 TOTAL  (322.4 base HP)
	Oil				   250	307 -> 322HP	  5.0% =   50cpp
	Turbo Kit/Stage2		13,500	322 -> 447HP	 38.7% =  349cpp
	Intercooler / Racing		 3,000	447 -> 483HP	  8.1% =  370cpp
	Racing Chip			 1,500	483 -> 497HP	  2.9% =  517cpp
	Muffler & Air Cleaner/Racing	 4,800	497 -> 536HP	  7.8% =  615cpp
	Lightweight/Stage1		 1,200 1500 -> 1395kg	  7.5% =  160cpp
	Lightweight/Stage2		 5,500 1395 -> 1335kg	  4.5% = 1222cpp
	Racing Tires/T2 Super-slick	10,500
	Flywheel/Racing			 1,050
	Clutch/Triple Plate		 4,700
	Driveshaft/Carbon		 3,000
Complete overkill upgrading this thing. I probably could've left off the Stage 2 Lightweight and all the power upgrades except the turbo. It took me awhile to get the hang of driving a Skyline. I started using accelerator-lift oversteer to turn the thing, then power-on understeer to straighten it back out, and things got much easier, and I was lapping some cars. Let me tell you, a Skyline at Grand Valley on T2's with stock brakes/suspension is just about the worst handling thing I've ever driven (although the other Skylines kept spinning out in front of me, so it wasn't too hard).
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Alto Works				 3,650 TOTAL  (66.? base HP)
	Oil				   250	 63 -> 66HP	  5.0% =   50cpp
	Intercooler / Racing		 2,500	 66 -> 72HP	  8.5% =  278cpp
	Flywheel/Racing			   900
I wanted to try the Lightweight Cup without using a Stage 1 Turbo. This was actually a bit of a challegne. You wouldn't believe the way this thing can sail through the corkscrew at Laguna Seca with just 72 HP.
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Audi TT 1.8T quattro			27,500 TOTAL (232.3 base HP)
	Oil				   250	221 -> 232HP	  5.0% =   50cpp
	Muffler & Air Cleaner/Racing	 4,800	232 -> 251HP	  8.0% =  600cpp
	Racing Chip			 1,500	251 -> 258HP	  3.0% =  500cpp
	Turbo Kit/Stage1		 4,800	258 -> 280HP	  8.5% =  565cpp
	Intercooler / Racing		 3,000	280 -> 302HP	  8.0% =  375cpp
	Lightweight/Stage1		 1,200 1395 -> 1297kg	  7.6% =  159cpp
	Suspension / Sports		 3,200
	Clutch/Triple Plate		 4,700
	Flywheel/Racing			 1,050
	Driveshaft/Carbon		 3,000
Worst... handling... car... ever. This is the only time I had to buy a suspension upgrade. It just wouldn't turn without cambering out the front some.
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Elise 190				34,300 TOTAL  (196.7 base HP)
	Oil				   250	187 -> 197HP	  5.0% =   50cpp
	Turbo Kit/Stage1		 4,800	197 -> 231HP	 17.7% =  271cpp
	Muffler & Air Cleaner/Racing	 4,800	231 -> 254HP	 10.0% =  480cpp
	Racing Chip			 1,500	254 -> 264HP	  3.9% =  380cpp
	Port Polish			 5,500	264 -> 280HP	  5.8% =  947cpp
	Lightweight/Stage1		 1,200	670 ->  649kg	  3.2% =  371cpp
	Racing Tires/T2 Super-slick	10,500
	Clutch/Triple Plate		 4,700
	Flywheel/Racing			 1,050
The biggest challenge was doing the Elise Trophy and Pro Spider & Roadster with this car. The Motor Sport Elise isn't a winnable car, though, so I had to use this. The stock 5-speed transmission hurts you off the line, and it's a pretty tough fight sometimes to get through the pack without getting bumped at the wrong time. I won most races by about 2 seconds.
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SLK 230 Kompressor (new from dealer)	30,000 TOTAL  (201.6 base HP)
	Oil				   250	186 -> 195HP	  5.0% =   50cpp
	Turbo Kit/Stage2		13,500	195 -> 279HP	 42.8% =  315cpp
	Muffler & Air Cleaner/Racing	 4,800	279 -> 307HP	 10.0% =  480cpp
	Racing Chip			 1,500	307 -> 319HP	  4.0% =  372cpp
	Lightweight/Stage1		 1,200 1325 -> 1232kg	  7.5% =  159cpp
	Clutch/Triple Plate		 4,700
	Flywheel/Racing			 1,050
	Driveshaft/Carbon		 3,000
None of the Silver Arrow races have tire wear, so I was able to slide this thing around on Normal tires while the CLK 55's bounced me around.
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Tuscan Speed 6 (new from dealer)	10,750 TOTAL  (378.9 base HP)
	Racing Tires/T2 Super-slick	10,750
The Tuscan Challenge is a really easy event, and I won most races by about 20 seconds. I could've saved some money here. It would probably be possible to win on Sports Tires with just an oil change, but I wasn't in the mood to fight with it in the corners when it handles so well on T2's with just a little drifting. The stock transmission is perfect for Test Course (this is the only race at Test Course that was fun).
 
get a life? well that was the first thing that entered my head...

maybe you should do outside for a while...breath the air, smell the flowers, look up at the sky and twirl round with your arms outstretched and embrace the world!!!


but i am too polite to post a message like that...
 
Originally posted by BadBatsuMaru
You can still save before the last race of a series. You just have to re-run the last race of the series until you get the car you want, instead of just reloading and quitting until you get it.
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Say you get have a 20 lap race where you want car A, instead cars B/C/D appear 13.7 times?
 
Originally posted by SandStorm
Say you get have a 20 lap race where you want car A, instead cars B/C/D appear 13.7 times?
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There were many races I had to repeat 8 times to get the car I wanted. The longest one was the PD Cup, where I had to do 20 laps at Tokyo over and over to get the F094/S on day 49. I think the Pro Dream Car (20 laps at Monaco) was another one I had to do 8 times.

I also had to do the Amateur American Champ. 8 times, the Amateur Japanese Champ. 8 times and the German Touring Car Champ. 5 times, but all those are still just 3-lap races. I had to do the Amateur Dream Car 7 times (7 laps at Grand Valley). Most of the longer races I had decent luck with. I didn't bother repeating the last race of the Formula GT (78 laps at Monaco) to get the car I wanted.

I was beginning to think that you were guaranteed to get all the cars by the 8th time, but then I did the Beginner GT World Championship. I got 5 Lancers, 4 Miatas and 2 Celicas before I got the Skyline I wanted on the 12th try, but it was only 3 laps at Grand Valley, so it wasn't that bad.
 
Now that's an extremely good achievement. 100% with less than 351,000 credits...and you said yourself you could go less, so you could possible just barely scrape under 320,000. :p
 
Originally posted by DODGE the VIPER
Now that's an extremely good achievement. 100% with less than 351,000 credits...and you said yourself you could go less, so you could possible just barely scrape under 320,000. :p
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Thanks!

Using more cars, you could go a lot lower. For example, you could just use the stock Skyline for the 80's cups, then use the Calsonic Skyline for the Red Emblems and 4WD races, and that'd save you 49,000 right there. You could also use an almost-stock rally car for the rally events then use a RUF for Boxer Spirit.
 
Originally posted by BadBatsuMaru
Thanks!

Using more cars, you could go a lot lower. For example, you could just use the stock Skyline for the 80's cups, then use the Calsonic Skyline for the Red Emblems and 4WD races, and that'd save you 49,000 right there. You could also use an almost-stock rally car for the rally events then use a RUF for Boxer Spirit.
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Now wouldn't it be easier to win an Escudo from the PD Cup?
 
Originally posted by SandStorm
Now wouldn't it be easier to win an Escudo from the PD Cup?
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It might be easier in a sense, but no matter what I'd much rather have the F094/S than the Escudo.

If you're talking about re-running the PD Cup just to get the Escudo, that would take about as long as all the Rally events combined, so I think I'll pass. The fact that the Escudo is buyable would make it even more of a waste of time.
 
Yeah, I think a stock rally car could win it easily. So that'd save you a bit of cash there, and then just use the F094/s for the Wet races.
 
Hmm... Looks like the title for this thread is wrong, seeing as I forgot to add the 10,750cr for the tires I bought the Tuscan to the total spent...
:banghead:

I've been reading through exactly what RoadHazard did in his "perfect game," and it's pretty interesting. He did a lot of things differently, but in the end, the only differences in our games are pretty minor:

He has the XJ220 Race Car, I have the GT40 Race Car
He has the XJ220 Road Car (buyable), I have a 2nd F094/S
He has the Castrol Tom's Supra (buyable), I have a 2nd F686/M
He has a 3rd F688/S and one Zonda Race Car, I have 2 of each.
He has an old Celica (buyable), I have a new Celica (buyable)
He bought the CLK55 instead of the SLK230 for the Silver Arrow

Code: 
                  RoadHazard  BadBatsuMaru
            Day:         229           229
            Cr.:  10,828,460    10,948,860
       Complete:      100.0%        100.0%
    Prize Total:  11,292,500    11,292,500
     Wins/Races:     337/337       337/337
       Licenses:      48,0,0        48,0,0
     Cars Owned:         103           103
"Total Mileage":      6974.7        8987.3
 Garage Mileage:      8317.8        8229.5
Total Car Value:  57,049,520    59,410,060
     Bonus Cars:         101           101
       Trophies:         466           399
      Cr. Spent:     482,040       361,640

RoadHazard mileage:
                 F687/S 5015.4
     Viper GTSR Concept 1301.7
Impreza Rally Prototype  439.5
     Vitz RS 1.5 (pink)  300.9
              Elise 190  230.6
         Tuscan Speed 6  162.7
 Skyline GT-R VS.II R32  156.4
    Clio Sport Race Car  136.6
     Spoon Civic Type-R  106.0
    Mazda MX-5 Miata LS   95.4
    Altezza LM Race Car   91.9
   Audi TT 1.8T quattro   62.4
Evo VII Rally Prototype   54.5
             Zonda C12S   50.5
        Mercedes CLK 55   47.4
     New Beetle Cup Car   35.9
  Mira TR-XX Avanzato R   30.0
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                        8317.8

BadBatsuMaru mileage:
                 F094/S 4867.1
     Viper GTSR Concept  796.3
              Elise 190  382.6
Impreza Rally Prototype  382.0
         Tuscan Speed 6  293.6
     Vitz RS 1.5 (pink)  261.7
    Altezza LM Race Car  235.2
 Skyline GT-R VS.II R32  230.2
    Clio Sport Race Car  158.4
         Zonda Race Car  128.1
    Mazda MX-5 Miata LS  109.4
     Spoon Civic Type-R  104.7
     New Beetle Cup Car   84.3
     SLK 230 Kompressor   65.3
   Audi TT 1.8T quattro   61.6
Evo VII Rally Prototype   53.8
             Alto Works   15.2
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                        8229.5

You can see the only big difference is that my "Total Mileage" is 2000 miles higher, although if you add up the miles on the cars in the garage, I actually had 88 miles less.
:odd:

It's also pretty interesting that doing the Arcade Mode races on hard only (like I did) gives you the % complete but not a trophy. Since RoadHazard actually went through and did each individual Arcade Mode race, he has 67 more trophies. Shouldn't that be 68 more trophies for the 34 Easy + 34 Normal races? Looks like maybe I ran one of them after all.

It also looks like we both saved the Sunday Cup at Super Speedway (the shortest race) for last.
 

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