2.03: engines can now be stalled

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When using clutch + h shifter (g27) you can now stall the engine, as tested with the 3rd DLC pack cars (the leaf correctly doesn't shut down) and with a premium honda s2000.

Also you can now change gears with the accelerator pedal pressed down at a maximum of about 1/4.


Both are superb additions to the game. Great work PD 👍 (for GT6 it could be added an engine start button though, which is also useful when going to the pits)

Pretty sure that I've been able to do that since 2.0 at least. Maybe earlier.
 
MONSTAR-1
Holding the throttle flat open and flicking the clutch while changing gears.

Pros: faster gear changes with power
Cons: box won't last long

Do it on someone else's bike lol

Changing up without the clutch doesn't wreck the box on an Mx bike...
No one uses clutch to change, sometimes just to go down gears
 
Actually I think ds3 users can stall. There is another way to stall the engine. Find a short straight, accelerate, shifting into 4,5, or 6th gear. Then get on the clutch, then the brake pedal(keep both pressed) until the car stops via braking. After that the rpms flatline and pressing the throttle does nothing.

The noise it makes when trying to pull away in top gear with a controller.....engine stalling and restarting until you get above that gear's stall speed maybe? Doesn't sound healthy whatever it is!
 
Little has been changed. The clutch is slightly more progressive, and it's slightly easier not to shift into neutral when shifting from 1-2. It's always been possible to stall the engine :D

The H-pattern characteristics are still far from reality. I can understand why PD didn't want to give us wheel users an unfair advantage, but now it's more unfair to US :banghead:
 
If you go wide high speed on the Nur, into the grass, and start doing 180 spins, if you don't touch the gas, you will stall. As soon as you spin back to track, you will coast with engine off, then blip the throttle for that bump start. This occured since several patches ago, even with paddle shifting. (all aids off)
 
The Clutch in GT5 is like a On/Off Button, thats really bad... Noticed that on the first Days driving GT5... I wish they are fixing this with a realfeel bite point, its one of the first things on my personal wishlist after the BMW E30 (318 - 325 EVO II) and the M-Version...
 
What are the prose and cons on this "Power/race shifting" you're talking about? And how is it done?
You simply stay on throttle while shifting. It's not that good for your car though.

Why? Hmm, acceleration is a little bit better.
 
Rofl only in granturismo ....So basically real easy to just stall then cause you cant ride the clutch and this is why I been having problems launching ff cars for drag racing
 
I hate the 1/4 throttle thing. Its so annoying if you miss a shift. I'll try like twice to get it back then I just hit the paddle, but its really frustrating when you're trying to save yourself and you lose power to the wheels because the car just goes neutral on you.

You wanna flat shift, just don't use the clutch. You can use H shifter if you jump from paddle to shifter without clutch. BUT, I hit the clutch pedal automatically, so it doesn't work well if you drive stick daily. You tend to just push the clutch anyway
 
That missed shift thing PD installed is garbage it makes no sense to me because in reality a manual car doesn't do that, the shifter just gets super heavy and won't shift into gear because you didn't hold the clutch open. It makes for some annoying driving as you can't shift without the clutch which is something you can do in real life once you get to the right rpms for the next gear.

PD needs to take this forced miss shift thing out or make it less easy to do, right now it makes quick shifting a hassle because I literally slam the gears so fast because they are much lighter than the Audi 6 speed box. PD needs to add a variable clutch response system to the transmission to mimic different clutch travel distances on different cars. I mean you could still push it all the way in as that would work for every car, but some of us our cars release point aren't so far in and equates to quicker shifts. Come on PD, wheel drivers have too many things going against us, we feel every bump in the road and the wheel fights us and couple with getting disoriented during a spin out we have to wrestle with shifting wrong too...talk about unfair. Why drive with the wheel at all if all it has are negatives that make using them detrimental to competing?
 
That missed shift thing PD installed is garbage it makes no sense to me because in reality a manual car doesn't do that, the shifter just gets super heavy and won't shift into gear because you didn't hold the clutch open. It makes for some annoying driving as you can't shift without the clutch which is something you can do in real life once you get to the right rpms for the next gear.

PD needs to take this forced miss shift thing out or make it less easy to do, right now it makes quick shifting a hassle because I literally slam the gears so fast because they are much lighter than the Audi 6 speed box. PD needs to add a variable clutch response system to the transmission to mimic different clutch travel distances on different cars. I mean you could still push it all the way in as that would work for every car, but some of us our cars release point aren't so far in and equates to quicker shifts. Come on PD, wheel drivers have too many things going against us, we feel every bump in the road and the wheel fights us and couple with getting disoriented during a spin out we have to wrestle with shifting wrong too...talk about unfair. Why drive with the wheel at all if all it has are negatives that make using them detrimental to competing?

You use a wheel for realism, not for a competitive advantage. Just because you wasted $500 to play a couple games doesn't mean you should automatically be faster around the track.
 
Blaze_409
Actually I think ds3 users can stall. There is another way to stall the engine. Find a short straight, accelerate, shifting into 4,5, or 6th gear. Then get on the clutch, then the brake pedal(keep both pressed) until the car stops via braking. After that the rpms flatline and pressing the throttle does nothing.

If you keep pressing the clutch while braking your car will be in neutral position ( no gear engaged) so it won't stall. If you brake without pressing the clutch, the car will stall as the rpm hit below the idle rpm. Exactly like IRL when you brake on icy road and lock the wheels without pressing the clutch.
 
With a DS3 I think you can stall a RWD with the handbrake (e-brake), but if you touch the gas the engine starts up so you may not even notice.

I noticed this I while mucking about on the previous Eiger Drift Trial with the Subaru 360 and used handbrake to slow down on a hill. It all went quiet but the car rolled on down the hill.

Edit: I think this is the case, see my post below for qualification! Don't want to be a blatant liar!
 
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With a DS3 you can stall a RWD with the handbrake (e-brake), but if you touch the gas the engine starts up so you may not even notice.

Are you sure about this? Isn't it the case that wile applying the handbrake, the engine goes back to idling (800 - 1.000 rpm). The engine noise is then so low it is overpowered by the squeeling tires which makes you think the engine stalled.

Have you ever applied the handbrake to a complete standstill. Can you hear the engine idling then, or is it really completely stalled? I'll try it myself tonight...
 
OnlyMe
Are you sure about this? Isn't it the case that wile applying the handbrake, the engine goes back to idling (800 - 1.000 rpm). The engine noise is then so low it is overpowered by the squeeling tires which makes you think the engine stalled.

Have you ever applied the handbrake to a complete standstill. Can you hear the engine idling then, or is it really completely stalled? I'll try it myself tonight...

It is possible I am wrong!

I was on gravel, about 30 mph downhill, I applied handbrake button to lock rears, I released the handbrake and the car carried on down the hill, it was quiet, the car picked up speed and the revs didn't. Can't remember what gear indicator said. I do remember using the gas to start it up again.

Initially I thought it was a bug or something but then assumed it was a stall. Could be that the game does hidden clutch or neutral as I can't remember if there were idle revs on the counter.

Did it several times but never stopped the car. This was a Scooby 360, I've never tried it in anything else.
 
I drive with a DS3 so I don't know anything about this. So, you mean you can just sit in your car with the engine turned off? :dunce:
 
Meh... you can change gears while fully on the accelerator in real life. Not that you would do it, but still...

I know on race motorcycles there is quick shifter. It is a sensor that is mounted to the shifter and when the shifter starts moving for an upshift it cuts the rpm's electronically so you can stay full throttle during a shift. I would assume there is something similar in race cars. If so, it would be nice to be implimented into GT5 at least for race versions of cars.
 
Can paddle shift cars be stalled in real life? This guy at my school told me they can, but I didn't believe him.
 
I drive with a DS3 so I don't know anything about this. So, you mean you can just sit in your car with the engine turned off? :dunce:

No. I was mistaken about the stalling :guilty:

Checked this last night as my memory of what occured wasn't all that clear.

What happens is that the revs do indeed drop to idle but it is as though the clutch is disengaged. If the car is rolling down the hill (see my post above) after you release the handbrake the revs are at idle, you can change gears with no effect on the revs. The only way to start up is to rev up the engine to the RPM you would be doing in your given gear.

Hope I've cleared it up!
 
Can paddle shift cars be stalled in real life? This guy at my school told me they can, but I didn't believe him.

maybe if you are in a high gear and spin out
but in any other case like normal driving i think its impossibile

JC stalled an 599 on TG track when spinning out if i remember correctly
 
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