2 player and 3D?

[myheadhurts]

It's a shame the polarised light version of 3d TVs appear to have already lost out to the shutter version - the former is far more suited to this kind of thing.

 

[Zathra5_]

That's a good idea, but would require the interface between the frame buffer and these ports to switch it's output every other frame - that might need more than just a firmware update! Maybe they'd planned ahead, who knows?

It wouldn't be too hard for a third party to create a device to split the two feeds from a single HDMI cable into two separate HDMI cables. It might not have a big enough market but it shouldn't be too hard to implement.

 

[Griffith500]

Maybe we may see sony's new tech they have just patented which uses 3d to show diffent things for players in different positions which allows full screen split screen, as the player on the left sees his car full screen and the play on the right sees his car full screen. It is a bit like land rovers sat nav thing.

Isn't that a (dual) interlaced display in the Land Rover, with opposite lenses over each (vertical) line? A bit like how those novelty cards and movie posters work - lenticular printing.

That would require a different TV to what is used with Sony's "current", shutter-based 3D. Instead, it's more likely to be what has been discussed above, with the glasses being able to switch modes (i.e. from L1 R0; L0 R1 to L1 R1; L0 R0). Bespoke "split-screen" displays might be a thing for the future, though, e.g. in arcades etc.

I don't know if the "lenticular"-type 3D displays (i.e. the ones that don't need glasses) can yet pull off this kind of switching between separate viewpoints and proper stereoscopic effect. Would be really sweet, though.

 

[witham]

Isn't that a (dual) interlaced display in the Land Rover, with opposite lenses over each (vertical) line? A bit like how those novelty cards and movie posters work - lenticular printing.

That would require a different TV to what is used with Sony's "current", shutter-based 3D. Instead, it's more likely to be what has been discussed above, with the glasses being able to switch modes (i.e. from L1 R0; L0 R1 to L1 R1; L0 R0). Bespoke "split-screen" displays might be a thing for the future, though, e.g. in arcades etc.

I don't know if the "lenticular"-type 3D displays (i.e. the ones that don't need glasses) can yet pull off this kind of switching between separate viewpoints and proper stereoscopic effect. Would be really sweet, though.

Yes your right i understand this and I get how all types of 3D work and well done with the good description, but I didn't want to go in to to much detial about it and I needed an example of what it would look like and that people know of.

Plus I suck at descriptions in writing.

 

[People_Know_Me]

Didn't read the whole post, but this would also be a great idea for regular television programs. You could watch the football game while the wifey watches Oprah, both while receiving a separate audio signal to your respective wireless headphones.

I like the future. I hope we get these things before 2012, though, haha.

 

[witham]

Didn't read the whole post, but this would also be a great idea for regular television programs. You could watch the football game while the wifey watches Oprah, both while receiving a separate audio signal to your respective wireless headphones.

I like the future. I hope we get these things before 2012, though, haha.

Sony have patented that as well, also the abilty to watch TV and play ps3.

 

[kikie]

Like Mr. Latte already pointed out. 2 PS3's in LAN with 2 monitors is the best solution. If you use these Dual View glasses, you won't be able to see your opponent. That's what the guy from Texas Instrument said in the clip. >>>> #4, previous page. Isn't that part of the experience that you can see your opponent?

 

[hinklor]

Isn't that part of the experience that you can see your opponent?

That's the thing we are trying to avoid. I can see how in a racing game it wouldn't matter as much as in a shooter, but you pretty much disable the element of surprise in any tactic.

If I can see my myself driving in front of my opponent on his screen, then it's very easy for me to block his passage. Now, imagine trying to snipe somebody down if he can see through your scope while you aim...

Also, this would give each player the full size of the TV screen while not having to clutter up your home with 2 screens.

 

[kikie]

That's the thing we are trying to avoid.

Why?

That's the whole point of split screen or LAN, to be able to see the other player. And who is this "we" you're talking about. I haven't read anything in this thread that others also want to avoid this.

 

[GT cruiser]

Why?

That's the whole point of split screen or LAN, to be able to see the other player. And who is this "we" you're talking about. I haven't read anything in this thread that others also want to avoid this.

What if you were playing a sports game where you didn't want the other person to see what plays or strategy you intend on implementing? As for racing that is what the rear view mirror is for, in my opinion. I just couldn't imagine a F1 driver or any other race driver having a TV put in his ride so he can watch the race to determine when to block others. It just doesn't seem very sporting to me. Oh and if I wanted to see the other persons screen, I never would have started this thread. The whole idea was spawned from not wanting to see the other persons screen.

 

[kikie]

What if you were playing a sports game where you didn't want the other person to see what plays or strategy you intend on implementing? As for racing that is what the rear view mirror is for, in my opinion. I just couldn't imagine a F1 driver or any other race driver having a TV put in his ride so he can watch the race to determine when to block others. It just doesn't seem very sporting to me. Oh and if I wanted to see the other persons screen, I never would have started this thread. The whole idea was spawned from not wanting to see the other persons screen.

Simple, don't use split screen or LAN if you don't want the other persons screen. Use single player instead.

There is no logic in not wanted to see the others screen if you're racing. You can see the other driver in your rear view mirror like you said but what if he/she overtakes you and you don't know this happend because you can't see the other's screen? In that case, IMO, play single player. What strategy is there besides pitting? This means that you never want to play online race games either because you can always see the other drivers.

I never play strategy or sports games. I was only referring to race games. That's why I found it odd that you don't want to see the other driver's screen. You did mention GT5 prologue in you opening post.

If it comes to strategy or sports games, I agree with you and hinklor. It's like showing your hand when playing poker.

 

[GT cruiser]

Point taken that you don't like the idea of not being able to see the other players screen. If you want too boil it down to the original post, the whole idea was that two people could utilize one system to get simultaneous full screen. I can see where your opinion falls out of favor with the original idea. You can and have been able to use split screen or LAN to achieve a view of the other players screen for quite some time now. I however like the idea of two player full screen on a single system, as I don't own two tv's or PS3's nor do I really have the space or desire. The idea offers more than just gaming uses it is an entirely new aspect to entertainment in the home. I would admit though that it never would replace LAN gaming as it is popular and a fun way to game, plus the added drag to the system would cut down on many variables. Both would seem to have their pro's and con's depending on who you ask or what you play. I'm not going to get in an argument over what is purely an opinion based discussion, as I can clearly see both sides of said opinion.

 

[kikie]

Point taken that you don't like the idea of not being able to see the other players screen. If you want too boil it down to the original post, the whole idea was that two people could utilize one system to get simultaneous full screen. I can see where your opinion falls out of favor with the original idea. You can and have been able to use split screen or LAN to achieve a view of the other players screen for quite some time now. I however like the idea of two player full screen on a single system, as I don't own two tv's or PS3's nor do I really have the space or desire. The idea offers more than just gaming uses it is an entirely new aspect to entertainment in the home. I would admit though that it never would replace LAN gaming as it is popular and a fun way to game, plus the added drag to the system would cut down on many variables. Both would seem to have their pro's and con's depending on who you ask or what you play. I'm not going to get in an argument over what is purely an opinion based discussion, as I can clearly see both sides of said opinion.

You have your opinion and I have mine. I'm not the person that changes his opinion very quick unless I'm wrong and I'm always the first to admit when I'm wrong. I thought that you were trying to say that you don't want to see the other screen/driver. I find it very odd that no one wants to see the opponents car in a race which is very strange because that's the whole point of racing. Strategy games never came to my mind, you did mention GT5p and GT.

In this case I'm not wrong and nor are you but you still managed to change my opinion in a positive way. You gave a very good explanation and after reading it, it felt right. I wish more members were like you. Maybe it's because I'm not smart and English is not my first language that I didn't understand what you were trying to say or maybe I'm just someone whom likes to challenge others. Anyway, you won't get any argument from me anymore. Discussion closed!

I still prefer LAN, but I don't like split screen. But I can see now why you like this idea. You don't want to extra cost/loss of space due to or having another PS3 and another monitor. This technology could be a good thing in that case. I won't be using it but I can see now that others like this idea. Last thing: I personally am not that keen on using shutter glasses.