2008/2009 Winter Testing

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17th-19th November, Barcelona Day 1

Results:

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1	T. Sato		Toro Rosso	01:20.763	121
2	S. Buemi	Toro Rosso	01:21.071	117
3	A. Wurz		Honda		01:21.198	77
4	P. de la Rosa	McLaren		01:21.417	65
5	G. Paffett	McLaren		01:21.956	78
6	L. Badoer	Ferrari		01:22.038	94
7	R. Kubica	BMW		01:22.341	56
8	S. Loeb		Red Bull	01:22.003	82
9	N. Piquet jr.	Renault		01:22.560	80
10	C. Klien	BMW		01:22.883	53
11	N. Hulkenberg	Williams	01:23.794	86
12	V. Liuzzi	Force India F1	01:23.794	86
13	A. Sutil	Force India F1	01:23.832	88
14	M. Gené		Ferrari		01:24.177	32
15	B. Senna	Honda		01:24.343	39
16	G. v.d. Garde	Renault		01:24.908	32
17	L. Di Grassi	Honda		01:25.512	48

BMW Sauber

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Testing is under way in Barcelona. Only BMW have whipped out the 2009 aero so far, it reminds me of the ol' walrus nosed Williams.

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EDIT: some more of the sidepod and rear wing.

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'09 BMW with slicks:

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Some "Old Vs. New" action:

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Honda

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Williams

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Ferrari

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Look at that bulge! :eek:
 
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I have to say the Honda look great, although I take it has something to do with the rear wing. That won't be legal though will it...
 
Yup, it's their old '08 wing - will be updated.

The BMW is, so far, the only team that looks almost completely-'09 legal, while Williams only ran rear and front wings, and Honda just front wings.
 
Im already crying at how ugly the cars look... oh well step backwards for mankind, just like getting rid of concorde... :indiff:

Lets hope the racing is enjoyable though.

Robin.
 
OMG, what have they done to Formula One??? The cars look like something out of a very badly proportioned kids drawing! Bring back winglets, bring back appropriately sized wings and get rid of the balled tires.

Maybe the cars will grow on me, but I dont think there is another person on the Earth that thinks these cars look better than last year.
 
Results for Day 1 added. Sato tops Buemi, and each of the STRs did as many laps as some teams did in total! :eek:
 
The new front wings do look ghastly, but I attribute it to their test mule status. With such a limited knowledge of aerodynamics, in reference to the new restrictions, teams are having to reinvent the wheel. These simple, blocky, and quite bulky looking designs will no doubt evolve into curvaceous designs, aside from the spec main element. For now, teams seem to be getting an idea of how these things work in practice. Contrary to some belief, much of the F1 aerodynamic knowledge comes from trial and error.
 
Day 1 times:

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Pos  Driver         Team                      Time     Laps
 1.  Sato           Toro Rosso-Ferrari   (B)  1:20.763  121
 2.  Buemi          Toro Rosso-Ferrari   (B)  1:21.071  117
 3.  Wurz           Honda                (B)  1:21.198   77
 4.  de la Rosa     McLaren-Mercedes     (B)  1:21.417   65
 5.  Badoer         Ferrari              (B)  1:22.038   93
 6.  Paffett        McLaren-Mercedes     (B)  1:22.235   47
 7.  Kubica         BMW-Sauber           (B)  1:22.341   56
 8.  Loeb           Red Bull-Renault     (B)  1:22.503   82
 9.  Piquet         Renault              (B)  1:22.560   80
10.  Klien          BMW-Sauber           (B)  1:22.883   53
11.  Hulkenberg     Williams-Toyota      (B)  1:23.467  116
12.  Liuzzi         Force India-Ferrari  (B)  1:23.794   86
13.  Sutil          Force India-Ferrari  (B)  1:23.832   88
14.  Gene           Ferrari              (B)  1:24.117   32
15.  Senna          Honda                (B)  1:24.343   39
16.  van der Garde  Renault              (B)  1:24.908   27
17.  di Grassi      Honda                (B)  1:25.512   48

Only Kimi Raikkonen managed a 1:20.7 over the Spanish GP race weekend, so Sato's pace in the 2008 Toro Rosso seems very good. Kubica is only 1.6 seconds slower with the 2009 aero package, Klien 2.1 with the same plus KERS. Sebastien Loeb nearly 2 seconds faster than Senna, who in turn is a second faster than di Grassi - Honda, start talking to Citroen now :sly:

Edit: Too slow, chicken marengo. Tree'd by Metar.
 
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Roo, just remember the STR did laps on Slicks, as well - so who knows what configuration they were really running, since the wings were also the Monza-spec parts. '09 cars, by the time teams complete their packages, should be equal, if not faster, than those of '08. Times between teams shouldn't be read into too much, since cars will vary even more than during the regular testing with slicks - 5 seconds is quite the gap, and aero- and tyre-configurations vary wildly..
 
What the.... Can someone fill me in here, sorry for my stupidity but should Sedastian Loeb not be preparing himself for the Irish Rally in 2 months or did I miss something massive? Is it just a trial run to see what he thinks of F1 cars?
 
Two months is plenty of times for a guy who's been thrashing the competition five years in a row.. He got that test-drive as a present from his Citroen's sponsor - Red Bull.
 
Metar
Two months is plenty of times for a guy who's been thrashing the competition five years in a row.. He got that test-drive as a present from his Citroen's sponsor - Red Bull.
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Thanks for clearing that up.
 
I'm going to wait till we see the final versions of the 2009 cars before passing comment.
Though I will say I like Williams' wing more than the other two, the Honda's in particular looks very odd and fragile, I don't know why, maybe its me just being used to the nose bridges they've been using, but it still looks incredibly thin and fragile in my opinion, too much space in the center.
 
I looked through these, the BMW looks like it got a hit from the bangle stick. The Honda looked awsome, untill I saw the rear wing. And don't make me start about the ferrari.

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Notice how BMW just tapes instruments onto the front of their car.
 
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So, where is this bulge you speak of on the ferrari? :lol:
 
Yea, whats with the Ferrari?? Is that an air vent to cool the Kers they are using??? It looks like some sort of dislocated shoulder!
 
Didn't it used to be wider front track than rear track?
 
To be honest. I LOVE the front, now the little stubby wing on the back is a turn off.
 
What would some of the female F1 fans say?

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"U! G! L! Y! Your cars have no alibi. They're Ugly! They're Ugly! Uh-huh, they're ugly!":yuck:

On top of that, looking at them at certain angles might give the onlooker a bit of a case of eyestrain.:odd: Even if they're already wearing eyeglasses.

No offense...:O
 
The BMW looks wretched. I hope they all of the cars don't look like that.
 
Can't really say much on the looks, but the 09 spec looks really horrid on that BMW. :yuck: Since this is just testing, there isn't really much a point on who is being the fastest. If Sato keeps outpacing Buemi like this, surely he would get that seat at STR next year! 👍 Also, Loeb ain't doing too badly in that RBR..... 👍
 

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