2009 Jaguar XF Unmasked

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The new Jaguar XF, I can't tell if I like it or not.

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Jaguar is set to showcase its all-new XF sedan at the Frankfurt auto show in Germany next month. A fitting location, since the British automaker is hoping to head-to-head with Mercedes and BMW's best offerings.

Designed as rival to the BMW 5-Series and Mercedes E-Class, the XF takes a sportier approach — with a lower roofline and more aggressive stance. It comes standard with fender vents and a bulging hood that add to this perception.

Replacing the aging S-Type early next year, the XF is based on the C-XF Concept car, with considerably less dramatic headlights and a tamer exterior. Engineering limitations are said to have made the C-XF's headlights impossible to bring to production in a cost effective manner, but look for cat-like eyes on the next-generation XJ, which Jaguar designers say will be more daring than the XF.

Two engine choices… for now

The XF will be offered wither either 300 horsepower or 420 horsepower — the former from a 4.2 liter V8 and the latter from a supercharged version of that mill. An XF-R is rumored to be arriving a year later with 500 horsepower.

Roughly five inches longer than the old S-Type, the 195-inch XF provides ample room for five adults, despite its coupe-like roof. The XF’s waistline rises to meet the roof rather than the roof coming down to meet the waist — a design trick that improves interior space.

Jaguar says the XF is something of a spiritual successor to the XJ Series 1 — a car that was smaller than today’s XJ. The company hopes the XF will mark a return to what its speciality of the past — sports sedans.

"Cars like the original XJ6 left a lasting legacy and my ambition has been to create something as seminal. The XF is that car," said Design Director Ian Callum.

Trim levels

Three trim levels will be offered in the U.S. market: Luxury, Premium Luxury and Supercharged levels. The first cars will be delivered to customers in March 2008. The XF will be marketed as a 2009 model.

Jaguar says the regular V8 version will sprint to 60 mph in 6.2 seconds, while the supercharged model — with the same engine as the current XKR — takes just 5.1 seconds.

For the U.S., the XF is available with 18, 19 or 20-inch wheels; the Supercharged being the only car in its class to have 20-inch wheels as standard.

JaguarDrive Selector and Jaguar Sequential Shift

One unique feature that made its way from the concept to the production XF is the JaguarDrive Selector. It features a rotary shift interface unlike anything else currently on showroom floors. The device rises into the palm of the hand when the car is turned on, and can be rotated to select park, reverse, neutral, drive, and sequential mode.

Jaguar Sequential Shift works on a shift-by-wire system that replaces manual shift linkages with electronic commands. It gives the XF smooth and rapid gear changes — faster than the XK's transmission.

There is also the choice of multiple transmission modes via JaguarDrive Control, which matches throttle progression, DSC thresholds and shift strategy to mood and conditions, including Sport and Winter modes.

Suspension, steering, and brakes

The XF uses large 12.83 in. x 0.79 in. (326mm x 20mm) vented front discs on all naturally aspirated models and 13.97 in. x 1.26 in. (355m x 32mm) vented front discs on the Supercharged model.

An extremely stiff pedal box contributes to a particularly solid pedal feel, and the brake assistance is tuned to give a very progressive feel, while softening the initial response.

The XF uses Jaguar’s Electric Parking Brake, with a small chromed release in the center console.

Variable ratio power-assisted steering is standard on every version of XF, for reduced parking effort at low speeds and greater precision and feedback at higher speeds

The supercharged version uses Jaguar’s Computer Adaptive Technology Suspension (CATSTM). Shared with the XK, it uses electronically controlled, two-stage, adaptive dampers
whose characteristics are automatically adjusted within milliseconds in response to road conditions and driving inputs.

Standard and optional technology

All XFs come standard with "surprise and delight" air-conditioning vents, which present a flush dashboard surface until the ignition is switched on, at which point they rotate to the open position. Another new technology — JaguarSense — introduces touch-actvated interior lights and glovebox release.

Every level of the audio system features at least eight speakers plus subwoofer, with a premium system designed in association with highly respected audio specialists Bowers & Wilkins available on range topping models. Radio options now include Sirius Satellite Radio, while the XF technology count includes Bluetooth communications technology, plus standard iPod and MP3 player connectivity with full-function control through the touch-screen, and an auxiliary port for other portable audio devices.

Standard features include Automatic Speed Limiter, Tire Pressure Monitoring System, Electronic Parking Brake and more.

Other available features include JaguarVoice control to operate audio and telephone functions, Blind Spot Monitor, Front and Rear Parking Aids and Rear Camera Parking Aid, and Adaptive Cruise Control.
 
Change the front end and I think I would like this car quite a bit. The front looks like something a chinese carmaker woudl come up with. From what I can tell, the rest of the car isn't bad at all. Dare I even say that the DB9 like taillights are even pretty sweet? The inside isn't bad either. The vents look horrible, but it is pretty clean-loooking in there otherwise.
 
They tried to make a four door one of these...

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But I want to know how that looks like this?
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I like it. But then again, I'm a sucker for British cars...

Its not the worst that could happen. I really had a great amount of distaste for the S-Type, and this overall is much more attractive in style and overall attitude, and thats a big plus for me. I have heard that Jaguar wants to make this the successor to the XJ6 in some ways, which is cool, but I think I'm really going to have to see it in person before I make any final decisions.

I just hope Jaguar doesn't get too 'modern' on us. I still love the XJ because it is so outstandingly 'old-school' both in look and in demeanor.
 
They tried to make a four door one of these...



But I want to know how that looks like this?

I really don't see any of the XK in the XF.

And you can tell that some of the features from the concept are there, but they are very toned down and significantly altered. In the end, it looks pretty generic and cheap when the C-XF looked far more distinguished and styled and aggressive.
 
It's the headlights I think that I'm seeing the similarities in.
 
I like it. The headlights aren’t the greatest, but it’s overall a very nice-looking car, with great overall proportions and pleasant detailing.

That interior though – that is stupid pretty. If I had the money, I’d buy it just for that interior. Brilliant brilliant brilliant.
 
OK. I think I might be seeing a little connection with the headlights.

Like YSS, I liked the "old" style Jags better. Maybe I'll like bettwr in person, or once I see more angles from Frankfurt.
 
Just noticed this on Car's website, and agreeing with Sage. That interior is sublime.

Unfortunate comparision: Profile shot is very Lexus GS. It definitely looks more substantial than the lithe little concept, but it's not ungainly by any means. That second shot is reminding me of the new Maser... because of the hood, anyways. The other thing that doesn't sit well with me is the SV8 badging. Seems so... un-Jag. Does make me look forward to the rumoured 5.0L R version, though :).

I'm in the same camp, YSS. I really, really enjoy the current XJR, so much so that I think a choice in that class for me would come down to that or a pre-facelift current-gen A8.
 
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Don't like the hgeadlight/grill combo. There's no flow between them and the rest of the front, they just seem stuck on and missplaced. The concept had clear lines connecting grill to bonnet and lights to fenders. This, doesn't.
 
Yeah Buick came to mind aswell, the front does really look like one, In my eyes looks nothing like the concept, really ulgy and bland compared to the concept... boy has it been toned down.

That said I love the back with its aston martin style lights but its really no consolation...

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You know... I just don't get how these companies make something nice like above and then end up with the piece o crap they have now. What is so hard about making the above front end production...?
 
Unfortunate comparision: Profile shot is very Lexus GS.
Er, that's not really a bad thing. I'm thinking Buick, unfortunately. Besides, the Audi A7 looks like a GS, as well.

Although turnabout is fair play: The original Lexus GS was a Ital Deisgn concept that was called the Jaguar Kensington, but Jaguar passed on it, and Lexus got it.

Where's the shifter?
 
The whole car looks and sounds amazingly good - certainly something I would buy if I had the money.

I agree with the front end looking a little iffy. I'm not sure why they changed it over the aggressive, sexy-looking concept...
 
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What is so hard about making the above front end production...?

More than likely - Pedestrian Safety Regulations. The bonnet has to have a certain amount of deformability and sharp 'concept car' like edges are probably never going to ever make it into production.
 
While driving to work this morning I came to the conclusion that it reminds me of this car...

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Yeah. As an ex-Jaguar engineer, it makes me sad. But then, I saw the first new XK buck, and it definitely improved, even though I don't think the final product quite got the right front end.

As for the XF, as soon as they showed the concept and said 'Ooh, you're not getting those smooth doors and the lights are slightly different' I knew that the real car would suck in comparison.

When will car companies realise that the talent of the designer in selecting the correct proportion, form and detail is vital to the final product. Witness: Audi TT, Aston Martin Vantage, Audi R8, Ford GT - extremely successful translations of desirable concepts to real cars.

Get it wrong, and what do you get? Close but no cigar. That first photo is a particularly bad angle for the XF, making it look like that Chrysler or some non-descript Hayundai. :(

And Mister Callum, did you ask Mister Fisker for the DB9 rear light design after it was pretty much the only part of your original DB9 concept which sucked and he changed?

(My gawd I'm turning into an opinionated and curmudgeonly old git. Clarkson better watch out.)
 
Personally speaking, I'm fine with the exterior, it looks great. But after looking at the photos again, and again, and again, the spot that disappoints me the most is the interior. Quite simply, it isn't British. It looks more German than British, and thats a problem. I'm used to the warmer colors and half of a redwood forest in the XJ, and personally speaking, its one of my favorite interiors when it comes to large sedans.

Show me one with more wood, tan leather, in British Racing Green, and I think I'll have my mind made up.
 
I'm unsure about the front end, everything else looks fine, except the interior which look exceptionally fine. I just can't seem to come a conclusion about that front end.
 
What's your guys take on the price?

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Despite unveiling the 2009 XF just yesterday, Jaguar has announced that it's new saloon will start at £33,900 in the U.K. For those who think conversions can be helpful, that's $68,267 USD. That kind of poundage will get the Brits their choice of either the 2.7L V6 diesel or 3.0L V6 engines, neither of which will be available in the U.S. Stepping up to the naturally aspirated 4.2L AJ V8 that produces 300 hp will raise the price to £44,500, or $89,614 USD. The top of the line SV8 model with the supercharged 4.2L V8 producing 420 hp will start at £54,900, or $110,557 USD. Keep in mind that these conversion to USD don't necessarily indicate what the 2009 Jaguar XF will be priced at in the U.S. The car hasn't been given an MSRP in the States, but we expect some fiscal clarity on this matter by November.

There are videos as well:

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Those are over-shooting the figures just a bit. Lets use some rough estimates, shall we?

According to Whatcar.co.uk, a Jaguar S-Type with the same 2.7L diesel V6 can be had for less money, £34,505. Now, since the only comparable model that I could find was the S-Type R which retails for £45,090, we can see a price increase of about 25%. Applying that same price increase on the "base" model with the 4.2L V8, it would start at roughly $70,000 (using the base price of $55,835 found at Edmunds.com). That, oddly enough, slots it above the Jaguar XJ in price...

I'm sure we won't know US prices for a bit, but I'd expect the car to sit between $55-60K to start with the 4.2L V8, and probably a bit above $70K with the Supercharged 4.2L V8.
 
I'm sure we won't know US prices for a bit, but I'd expect the car to sit between $55-60K to start with the 4.2L V8, and probably a bit above $70K with the Supercharged 4.2L V8.

That's pretty much where I would have put the car. At those prices I'm a little unsure if the car will sell well. A car has to look presentable to sell, and that front end might give a little of a cheap impression. I'm not questioning the engineering, though. Hopefully that will be up to snuff.
 
Really am I crazy to see the similarities? On another forum people are telling me I'm nuts.

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Damn, the best part of the concept car happens to be the only thing that didn't make the production line....
 

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