2010 Cobalt/Cruze; Official Photos

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The gains depend on how many miles you do, really. Diesel cars are completely not worth the extra price if you're a low mileage or town driver, but very useful if you do high mileages mostly on freeways.

Though with diesels, it's not always just the economy savings that it's worth buying for. If well serviced they're capable of higher mileages pretty easily, and they're also much quicker and more relaxing than the equivalent gas car. Modern diesels are pretty quiet as a rule and as Niky says, have loads of torque which makes driving them an absolute breeze.

You could say they don't sound as good of course, but then the vast majority of regular four-cylinder economy cars sound crap anyway. At least diesels have a bit of a nice rumble from inside the car.

About 22k-26k miles a year, ~100 or so a day. Got the FIT 11 months ago and it's at 22k miles already.

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/02/21/report-diesel-chevrolet-cruze-confirmed-for-u-s/

34mpg combined in the Holden diesel?
That's about the same as my FIT does in the winter with heavy steel wheels and winter tires.
I'm hoping it does much better than that and diesel finally becomes mainstream enough for the MFRs to get some fun diesels out.
 
That's good to hear. AB doesn't seem to be on the ball as much as I would like them to be.
 
About 22k-26k miles a year, ~100 or so a day. Got the FIT 11 months ago and it's at 22k miles already.

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/02/21/report-diesel-chevrolet-cruze-confirmed-for-u-s/

34mpg combined in the Holden diesel?
That's about the same as my FIT does in the winter with heavy steel wheels and winter tires.
I'm hoping it does much better than that and diesel finally becomes mainstream enough for the MFRs to get some fun diesels out.

Cruzes are bigger and heavier than your average small car, but it is a good feature IMO, I hate tiny interiors and for a small car the Cruze is reasonably spacious.
 
A Cruze is about 800 pounds heavier than a Fit, with about 30% more engine, to boot. It's not a like-to-like comparison.

A diesel Cruze would be fantastic. The current Cruze has an immense interior for a "compact", has nice interior materials, and drives pretty swell (honestly, comparable to a Focus). The only problem (besides the fact that it's a GM product... which gives it a lot of brand-associated baggage) is the woeful engine-transmission package.
 
Cruzes are bigger and heavier than your average small car, but it is a good feature IMO, I hate tiny interiors and for a small car the Cruze is reasonably spacious.

Tiny interiors don't work for a tall fellow like myself. It's also funny that the cruze is now a small car yet 10-12 years ago it would go up against the maxima and camry in the dimensions department.
I was comparing it to the fit cause on paper the gas engines have similar MPG figures across all engine configurations. 24/36 cruze, 27/33 fit. So to the average Joe, the petrol cruze would need to get an average of closer to 26(which I suspect it will as the city/hwy are spaced out too far for my comfort), for the DIESEL to look more attractive.

I think american car companies tend to go about introducing new tech the wrong way, it's like they don't want anything but regular gas to succeed. Why introduce a diesel engine unless the MPG gains aren't good enough to at leas cover the price difference of diesel fuel?
 
With a diesel drivers who log a lot of highway miles will see larger gains in MPGs than a driver who drive many city miles. Real world highway MPGs are usually a bit higher than the rating.
 
I think american car companies tend to go about introducing new tech the wrong way, it's like they don't want anything but regular gas to succeed. Why introduce a diesel engine unless the MPG gains aren't good enough to at leas cover the price difference of diesel fuel?

I don't know if that is necessarily the reason why. Compared to most compacts in the US, the Cruze is actually a step forward than most of the competition by using the small-displacement turbo engine combined with the six-speed gearbox. If you are to compare the performance of the Jetta SE and TDI, you'd find that the difference between a Cruze LT and Diesel should at least be comparable. As I recall with the VW, it is about a 10% price increase for about a 15% gain in fuel economy. Assuming that the Diesel is based off the LT2 or LTZ, I'd expect things to start off around $22,000 with most of the trimmings, and be able to do 42+ MPG without the compromises that the Eco makes.

Not a bad deal, in my mind.
 
Dealing with the typical idiot chicagoland drivers gave me a lot of daydreaming time while heading to lunch. It made me realize that I need a diesel.
 
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It is quite disappointing that we (most likely) won't be getting the car in the US. Doubling up on the bad news, this one is getting a fancy new 160 BHP diesel engine over in Europe. With a manual gearbox.

CONFOUND THESE PONIES!
 
It looks a lot better than the sedan, so quite a shame if we don't get it.



Why wouldn't we get it, though? Compact cars is the one segment in America where wagons tend to be somewhat successful.
 
The focus has a 5 door hatch, so I think we have a good chance of getting it. Any more info on the new diesel?
 
Hyundai makes the Elantra Touring.

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Cargo space is improved, of course, and doubly weep-inducing for North American hatchback fans, this one will only be available in Europe

Rather sucks as I would much rather have a hatchback compact than a sedan version.
 
I guess, but it isn't really an Elantra, and what about the current generation?
 
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